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2,904 megapixels during game one of the World Series
Octavian Cantilli, Photographer, Assistant
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Grand Rapids | MI | United States | Posted: 12:26 AM on 10.30.09 |
->> David Bergman just posted his first Gigapan since the inauguration.
http://bit.ly/1Az6Jo
Ridiculously sharp! |
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Daniel Berman, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | US | Posted: 12:41 AM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> Hey! I found Brad Mangin in the 3rd base well! |
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 1:20 AM on 10.30.09 |
->> Very cool!
Its really surprising more people aren't doing those since you can buy those pano "robot" mounts for a few hundred bucks a camera like a G10 for about $400 or so as well.
Such a double edged sword of technology I guess since on one hand its awesome we have such cool tools at our disposal yet on the other hand when all it takes is a $349 and a pushing a button imitation and thus saturation is sure to follow.
At any rate hats off to Bergman for being a pioneer and showing the rest of us what is possible with a little imagination |
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Eric Isaacs, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 2:23 AM on 10.30.09 |
->> Pretty amazing - I have been toying with the idea of buying one of these cool lil robots for some time now but I think I'll wait til it will at least support a 40D or 5D.
I noticed a lot more artifact in this image than in the Obama image, perhaps because of the number of frames stitched together or perhaps baseball fans are simply more active than inauguration fans :-)
EMI |
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Jared Wickerham, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Pittsburgh | PA | U.S.A. | Posted: 2:33 AM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> I think I was out shooting features when it went by the upper third section. Damn, that would've been cool. |
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Dave Londres, Photographer
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Utica | NY | USA | Posted: 2:38 AM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> awesome, except for one MAJOR omission... CHASE UTLEY! |
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Dave Breen, Photographer
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Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 9:45 AM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> The MLB site indicates the shooting spanned 53 minutes. With no apparent "ghosts" or multiple images of players, I'd like to know the basic exposure, and how much fixing had to be done during processing. |
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Donald Montague, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | | Posted: 10:18 AM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> awesome image, if you zoom in you can see that the right and left fielders are Yankees while the infielders are Phillies. |
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Dave Breen, Photographer
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Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 10:30 AM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> Ah, maybe that answers my question. |
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Erik Markov, Photographer
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Kokomo | IN | | Posted: 11:36 AM on 10.30.09 |
->> Jeff, I'm not really worried about the technology aspects of it and is it too cheap. I think the stuff David is doing is awesome, and I thought about buying the gigapan for slr's, but decided against as I just didn't have enough cool stuff around to shoot with it right now.
The tech might be cheap, but the inherent laziness in 99% of the population guarantees this will remain a unique thing for a while. Lets assume most people aren't going to have the access to shoot the W.S., but they're going to shoot something else cool with the gigapan.
Most people aren't going to take the time to scout out the location, decide the best angle, get setup to shoot, spend a couple hours maybe half a day shooting, then spend the time to put it together.
I just started doing time lapses with my D700 and I uploaded one to Vimeo. It turned out ok, but I want to do better next time, much better. I did a search on Vimeo for time lapses, and there is some pretty cool stuff on there, but 90% of it is crap, it gets boring, there isn't really any story to them. And time lapses are much more popular with digital since its easier to get the images into the computer, put them together etc. Yet for all the tech and ease of doing it, people are satisfied with being just ok, not going beyond.
As far as the image, it makes me think of a pic where you scroll around seeing all the goofy stuff going on, kinda like a Norman Rockwell image. Need some guy accidentally dumping a beer on the guy next to him, guy on the field streaking etc. |
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Erik Markov, Photographer
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Kokomo | IN | | Posted: 11:41 AM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> Scary thought.... think the government alphabet soup(CIA, FBI, Homeland Security) is currently using this image to run facial recognition? Fine for the criminals, bad luck for joe schmoe who accidentally gets mistaken for a bad guy. |
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Joey Wilson, Photographer
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Savannah | GA | USA | Posted: 11:46 AM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> This is amazing!! I could literally zoom in on Alec Baldwins big round head right behind home plate!! I'll waste hours playing with this great find!! |
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Tom Knier, Photographer
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Lancaster | PA | USA | Posted: 12:45 PM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> It's a shame that the weather wasn't clear for Game 1 like it was last night for Game 2... |
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Marvin Gentry, Photographer
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Birmingham | AL | USA | Posted: 1:02 PM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> So how does one make money with this equipment?? I can think of lots of uses and places to shoot with it but how can you sell photos to the public?? |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 1:10 PM on 10.30.09 |
->> Imagine more mature technology where you could not only get the same thing but you could get it in real time full-motion video from a Twitter-like stream of contributors from all over the stadium. You could have a complete realtime virtual stadium that you could explore in any way you wanted as long as there was a camera there. Even now there are easily tens of thousands of cameras at any given major sports event.
It's just a matter of time and technology integration. The pieces are already floating around.
--Mark |
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Octavian Cantilli, Photographer, Assistant
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Grand Rapids | MI | United States | Posted: 1:18 PM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> David just updated this blog entree with technical info. He said he had to wait until Gigapan gave him the OK ... |
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Bob Ford, Photographer
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Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 1:30 PM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> Marvin, David sold huge prints from his Inaugural images. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 1:37 PM on 10.30.09 |
->> SI has done a bunch of these...here's one from 2008:
http://www.gigapan.org/gigapans/6496/
Click on their name for others.
I've done a couple, although nothing as cool as the ones mentioned above. This one is kinda fun...shot from the top of a building in Downtown Louisville before a big fireworks show:
http://www.gigapan.org/gigapans/21709/
They're fairly straightforward to do...they just take awhile both in terms of actual shooting time and post-production. |
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Dave Breen, Photographer
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Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 2:18 PM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> Wow, a 200-400 on a D700!! The lens was zoomed full to 400, with a 5.6 aperture for exposure. I assume the camera refocused for each shot -- there wouldn't be enough depth-of-field to get everything sharp, would there? |
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Andrew Knapik, Photographer, Assistant
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Lincoln Park | MI | USA | Posted: 2:49 PM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> This is really cool! I think one of the neat things is seeing a Yankee at bat, and a Yankee in left and right field. There are also no umpires on the foul lines - though you can see some legs on the left field foul line!!! The 52 minutes it took to make this is pretty fascinating!!! |
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David Bergman, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 3:59 PM on 10.30.09 |
->> Thanks Octavian, for posting this.
Yes, there were quite a few technical challenges to making it happen. Some low tech and some high tech.
There are certainly a lot of things that bug me about the image, but I'm pretty happy considering that a) it's only the second Gigapan I've ever done and b) I got the unit literally a few hours before the first pitch. You should have seen me reading the instructions while setting up about an hour before game time. The rain didn't help either.
I'm planning on doing at least a couple more of these throughout the Series and will make some improvements.
Best,
David
http://www.DavidBergman.net/ |
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JC Ridley, Photographer
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Coral Springs | FL | US | Posted: 4:59 PM on 10.30.09 |
->> Jeff -
I've known Bergman since our days as college roommates at the University of Miami. If he wasn't one-upping us at something as "simple" as a Gigapan he'd be one-upping us at something else. |
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Michael Ciu, Photographer, Assistant
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Lorain | OH | USA | Posted: 5:27 PM on 10.30.09 |
->> I happened to find one instance of ghosting by accident. Straight in above home plate, upper deck, 5 rows above the .258 avg, 2hr 3rbi lighted sign. some of the people have two heads. oh well. this is pretty awesome still.
i can't seem to find a photo of what this set up looks like. anyone have a link? |
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Shawn Lynch, Photographer
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New York | New York | USA | Posted: 9:00 PM on 10.30.09 |
| ->> I don't know how I feel about this. This is an image of something that never really happened. Well actually it's hundreds of images of things that did happen, sort of passed off as one image. Anybody else feel similar? I can appreciate the technology and it's a step closer to something really cool (think if all those images were made at the same moment!) |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 12:53 AM on 10.31.09 |
->> Shawn,
I hear and respect what you're saying. It's not really being passed off as anything other than a composite, so I think morally it's in good shape. And it's not in the same category as the thousands of single frames snapped of game action or fans.
I look at it like any alternate technique shot - those motor-drive stitch photos that show the path of a motocross jumper, long exposure photos showing streaking tail lights, those "toy city" photos done with a tilt-shift lens, etc. All of those things are cool compositions that began with photos. None are a literal reflection of reality. But they're still cool - and they do serve a purpose, even if it's not a literal documentation of a precise moment in time. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 1:19 AM on 10.31.09 |
| ->> These are definitely cool - the ultimate "where's waldo" - or in this case, where's the second baseman? |
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Eric Linsley, Photographer
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West Haven | CT | USA | Posted: 2:11 AM on 10.31.09 |
| ->> Nick Swisher has a twin!!! Love this image great work David!!! |
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Jack Megaw, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Pittsburgh | PA | America | Posted: 1:39 PM on 10.31.09 |
->> I did an internship over the summer with the people who make the GigaPan at Carnegie Mellon University. It's a pretty cool piece of kit!
I'm hoping that they come out with a GigaPan that can support the larger D-SLRs - right now it only goes up to the size of the D90. |
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Bob Ford, Photographer
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Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 6:25 PM on 10.31.09 |
| ->> Jack, I guess your hoping paid off. David shot this with a D700 and 200-400 f4 lens. |
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