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Original 1D files rediscovered: remember Tri-X/Accufine?
Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
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Powell | TN | USA | Posted: 8:30 AM on 09.18.09 |
->> About a year ago, I came across a really clean copy of an original 1D camera and bought it because it was low miles and because I felt like I might need the 1/500th sync for a special sports action strobe assignment someday. The batteries on these guys really suck so I bought two aftermarket batts. and pretty much put it on the shelf and forgot about it.
Then it was time to shoot some photos of my kids... And I thought, I'll take this thing and bring it home and use it there to shoot the kids...
I accidentally found out that the original 1D files are, first, very beautiful in greyscale, second, it's a great camera, and third, cheap, cheap, cheap.
I've done a little experimenting with mine and I find if I shoot around 800 ISO, and convert to greyscale, the files really look similar to perfectly exposed Tri-X (not T-Max) pushed maybe a stop or 1.5 stops. I've actually started bringing this "new" camera onto portrait assignments and have been selling a few photos from these sessions to people.
I never use color from the camera because I am totally spoiled by the 1DMIII and 5DMII files, but I have to tell you that some of these images are really inspired by my old memories of b&w film. There is something almost organic about that first CCD chip they used back in 1999 when the 1D came out.
Last, it's a great holder for all your old CF cards that hold 512M or 1 G capacity. don't throw them away, just buy a new CF card holder for $300 and try it as a b&w specialty camera. |
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Jim Metzendorf, Photographer, Assistant
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Columbus | OH | United States | Posted: 9:53 AM on 09.18.09 |
| ->> This is a great point, Patrick. The 1D is still a viable camera for many uses, and it definitely stands out in this respect. |
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Mike Burley, Photographer
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Chicago | Il | USA | Posted: 11:03 AM on 09.18.09 |
| ->> What I liked about this camera is with certain light kits you can actually get higher sync speeds than 1/500. I got 1/1000 from a set of Dynalites. Not sure how this was achieved, but there was no clipping. I still think this is the sharpest and fastest AF of any canon digital body. |
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 11:04 AM on 09.18.09 |
| ->> Still have a 1D and don't want to part with. Battery life is a problem. Batts that go all day in the MarkII last about 30 minutes in it. If it had a six instead of four megapixel range I'd probably would have a fleet of them at the price they are going at these days. I like CCD files and the 'film' look. With more and more of my work moving away from actual print reproduction, I'm finding less and less of a need for larger files sizes. I agree, at 800 in BW the files remind me or pushed TriX, too. I think I may end up with another one soon. |
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Max Simbron, Photographer, Assistant
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Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:34 AM on 09.18.09 |
->> Mike,
The sensor on the 1D is a CCD, and because of that, it sets its exposure electronically (turning on/off the CCD for the duration of the exposure) rather than mechanical (moving of curtains across the sensor face). This is much more accurate, and therefore syncing with it is easier.
I've gotten sync up to 1/2,500th.
Nikon's D40 also has an electronic shutter and a CCD (as does the D70). My last update on my SS page features images shot with a D40, Pocket Wizards (which sync wirelessly up to 1/1,000th) and an SB800. It was very fun and something different to try.
The 1D can create some very nice and very manageable files, with 4MB raw files. It's also a 1 series so it can keep up with sports. The D40 is not a sporty camera, but has about a 6MB raw file with nice detail, and it's very tiny so you can usually find a spot in your bag to bring it along for kicks.
BTW, I also tested PW Multimax units, and they have been reliable to sync wireless up to 1/1,600th. Overpowering the sun with one or two hotshoe flashes is quite possible if you do it right.
Max |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 11:44 AM on 09.18.09 |
| ->> My 1D sucked. The Mark II has been much better for me. Our copy of the 1D shot images that were too blue. And red tones were often oversaturated. The LCD was also inaccurate. We spent extra money to have it calibrated for AF. It still wasn't that great. |
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 12:07 PM on 09.18.09 |
->> i bought my 1D in 2007 for $500 with minimal wear on it. great camera.
i still use it today. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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102 Yards From The Beach | CT | | Posted: 1:29 PM on 09.18.09 |
->> I loved my 1D bodies. I am however selling my last 1D body at the moment simply to streamline my gear.
The camera served me well and I also loved it in B&W and kept it for the 1/500 flash synch (1/1000 with Lumedynes & Pocket Wizards) |
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Marc F. Henning, Photographer
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Bentonville | AR | USA | Posted: 2:12 PM on 09.18.09 |
->> i'm with you Patrick. i love my 1D, the batteries do suck, and don't think i will ever sell it.
marc |
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David Minton, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Humble | TX | USA | Posted: 3:14 PM on 09.18.09 |
->> All the basketball images up on my member page right now are old school 1D shot at, get this, 3200 ISO!!
And when shooting RAW and processing the 1D TIFF files in the Canon Digital Photo Professional software, the noise looks even more like film grain. It always seems like if processed in Photoshop, the noise particles look like grains of rice instead of purple dust. But in DPP the noise gets spread out more evenly and looks like grain.
I love that camera and will NEVER get rid of it. |
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Brian Westerholt, Photographer
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Kannapolis | NC | USA | Posted: 3:31 PM on 09.18.09 |
| ->> I still own 3 of the 1D bodies for the 1/500 flash synch when shooting basketball on strobes. I have tried shooting on strobes with my Mark IIN but find the motion blur unacceptable. Yes the battery life sucks, but I do not plan on parting with my 1D bodies any time soon. |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 4:32 AM on 09.20.09 |
| ->> Funny to read any images captured with a digital camera as "old school" |
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Bryan Crowe, Photographer
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Fullerton | CA | US | Posted: 5:59 AM on 09.20.09 |
| ->> This makes me really miss mine............... |
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David Rossiter, Photographer
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Lethbridge | AB | Canada | Posted: 5:31 PM on 09.20.09 |
| ->> Patrick, darn now Nikon users will start hunting for NC2000e bodies so they can dump their D3's -- for that great retro digital experience ! |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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102 Yards From The Beach | CT | | Posted: 5:57 PM on 09.20.09 |
| ->> I love the NC2000c for sharpness...nice files at ISO 200. |
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Barbara Perenic, Photographer
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Springfield | OH | USA | Posted: 3:15 PM on 09.22.09 |
->> *Sigh*
I did my entire thesis project at OU in Tri-X and Accufine.
Ah the memories... |
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David Seelig, Photographer
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Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 3:23 PM on 09.22.09 |
| ->> MY senior project was shot on a leica M2 35 mm summilux and tri x in d 76 |
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Thomas Hobbs, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Tallahassee | FL | USA | Posted: 11:02 AM on 09.23.09 |
| ->> I just sold my 1D. I really needed biger files for what I was doing and upsizing in genuine fractals takes forever sometimes. I miss it, but I sold it to my friend and now he is loving it so it's not all bad. I actually just switched over to a d300. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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102 Yards From The Beach | CT | | Posted: 1:25 PM on 09.23.09 |
->> Thomas,
Use Fred Miranda's SI Pro, its quick, very good and like $30. |
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