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Is it a horizontal world now?
Gary Mills, Photographer
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Culver | IN | USA | Posted: 9:34 AM on 09.17.09 |
->> Thanks to Michael Sullivan for introducing many of us to the 2009 Visa d'or Daily Press Award, but I thought the photos of the exhibit were interesting.
Almost all of the photographs on display were horizontal.
Is that because of the web and everyone hoping to get published "above the fold"?
To an oldtimer and former newspaper staffer, we used to shoot verticals because they got more space. |
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Eric Francis, Photographer
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Omaha | NE | United States | Posted: 10:02 AM on 09.17.09 |
| ->> It's always been a horizontal world. |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:25 AM on 09.17.09 |
->> it's a cyclical trend thing. Horizontal or vertical or, don't ask me why, tilted horizons are the thing to shoot.
But as far as the Perpignan images go, many of those are documentary-style reportage and many in that genre like to shoot horizontal as it comes across more realistic because that is how the human eye naturally takes in the scene. |
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Craig Mitchelldyer, Photographer, Assistant
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Portland & Orange County | OR and CA | USA | Posted: 10:30 AM on 09.17.09 |
| ->> I once heard someone say "if you don't shoot verticals, you can't get covers". I like covers, so I try to shoot vertical and think about verticals a lot since then. |
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Brian Hollingsworth, Photographer
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Austin | TX | USA | Posted: 10:54 AM on 09.17.09 |
->> I think photographers who were not shooting for papers or to get a cover have traditionally shot more horizontals than verticals. In some ways this is just a natural tendency, but I also remember being told you're just being lazy if you don't turn the camera everyone once and a while a look for the vertical shots.
In the printed age of journalism I think verticals gave you a better a shot of getting published...just having something vertical available to fill the space might mean the difference between having a photo published or not. Now not so much.
The internet is more flexible, but running a large vertical image might mean scrolling down to see the whole image...not fun. And if you're shooting for video/multimedia then verticals don't work so well. I'm not saying they can't work, but it can be pretty jarring to go from a string of horizontals to a vertical and back again in a video. Since I shoot for print and multimedia on the same projects I've learned to make sure that I cover the most important moments as horizontals, so that I can combine them into videos more seamlessly. That might just be my own aesthetic, and my bosses prefer not to have a vertical in the video with the black lines on the side. They want to fill the whole screen. |
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Brian Cripe, Photographer, Assistant
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East Lansing | MI | USA | Posted: 11:16 AM on 09.17.09 |
->> "I like covers, so I try to shoot vertical and think about verticals a lot since then."
I like double trucks. :-) |
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Christopher Szagola, Photographer
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Richboro | PA | United States | Posted: 11:34 AM on 09.17.09 |
->> One day at a camera store, I asked a woman why she shot only horizontals and not verticals. She thought the camera wouldn't work if turned it 90*s.
Was once told, 90% of the worlds photos are shot horizontal, where 45% of those should have been shot vertical. |
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Robert Longhitano, Photographer
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North Wales | PA | USA | Posted: 11:39 AM on 09.17.09 |
->> With the newer FF sensors (i.e D3, D3X) it is possible to pull a good quality verticals from a horizontal images. Why box yourself in when you can have best of both worlds.
Obviously if you assigned a specific task such as a cover shot shooting vertical makes sense |
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Randy Abrams, Photographer
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Bath | NY | US | Posted: 6:01 AM on 09.18.09 |
| ->> To be honest I think this is simply dependent on what you are shooting. Landscapes obviously are going to horizontals the majority of the time, but with sports if I'm trying to fill the frame with an image I'm going to go with verticals. I probably shoot 90%-95% vertical. |
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 7:18 AM on 09.18.09 |
->> This question is deeper than just what fits. For anyone who existed in he film era, you had to go vertical if that is what the subject demanded. There was just no way shooting a football game at night on Tri-X pushed to 1600 to take a horizontal and make it vertical.
Add to that, that there are those of who were taught to document what we see and crop accordingly. Sure you can have some air to fit a hole for the next day's paper, but you went vertical if the scene demanded and horizontal was the same way.
As more and more folks who have less formal training wander into "photojournalism" it will become more and more horizontal. Just a fact. They don't know any better. It is just easier that way. And with technology where it is, yes, you sure can crop a D3 made as a horizontal to a vertical. And, you can do it at 3200ISO or 6400ISO. Crazy. |
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Sam Tenney, Photographer
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Auburn | NY | USA | Posted: 8:53 AM on 09.18.09 |
->> Several years ago while I was taking one of the VII workshops, Gary Knight was upset that I'd shot a few verticals.
GK: "Are your @#$*ing eyes stacked one on top of the other?"
Me: "Uhh..."
GK: "No, they're next to each other. So why the @#%* are you shooting vertical?"
Me: "Uhh..."
It took me a while to start shooting verts again. |
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Joshua Prezant, Photographer
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North Miami Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 8:55 AM on 09.18.09 |
| ->> On the second image/ Cover it looks like they did more then crop it. It looks like they took out the player behind the guy. |
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Michael Muszynski, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Chicago | IL | USA | Posted: 9:04 AM on 09.18.09 |
->> It also looks like they added some really small baseball players to the football field.
All kidding aside, the player in the background is still there, just behind the large SPORTS ILLUSTRATED and burned quite a bit, I think. |
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 10:42 AM on 09.18.09 |
->> Vertical Vs. Horizontal for me depends on the sport to some extent, and even within the sport (like football) it can depend on how far from the action I am and what lens I'm using (what my FOV is).
For example, twice this year I have started shooting a play from the back of the end zone, with the LOS around the 50. On both occasions, the runner burst around the end and ran for a TD - right into my face. The first 4-5 shots I took of the play developing (and the runner breaking around end) were taken horizontally but as the runner got into the clear, ran down the sideline and got closer to me, I rotated my 400 lens into the vertical position to isolate him and better fill the frame.
FWIW, I've never had a photo editor tell me to shoot more horizontals in football but I did have one tell me to shoot more verticals a few years back (I was shooting maybe 80% verticals at the time).
It also depends on the lens being used. As the Getty shots demonstrate, if you're shooting loose enough, you can shoot horizontal, crop tighter horizontal or crop vertical to fit the use.
FWIW I shoot basketball almost entirely vertical - the close shots with a 70-200 and the long shots taken the length of the court with a 300, but much of the action in basketball is vertical. |
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
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Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 12:34 AM on 09.19.09 |
->> Same as Dennis here.
I shoot a lot of horizontal from the endzone, but a lot of vertical when I am shooting on the sideline.
Soccer I shoot a lot of horizontal as the field is large and most of the action takes place far away from me.
Baseball is almost all Vertical
Basketball is like 99% vertical for me. |
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Todd Spoth, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 4:22 AM on 09.19.09 |
->> i didnt even know the camera turned that way. weird.
-T |
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Jon Wright, Photographer
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Wayzata | MN | USA | Posted: 10:17 AM on 09.19.09 |
| ->> The entity I've been shooting for recently makes web "slideshows" out of my images. They obviously want wide horizontals for that particular use. Last year it was really interesting shooting basketball horizontal??? |
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