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Kennerly on To Crop of Not
Allen Murabayashi, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 7:18 AM on 09.17.09
->> http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/essay-9/index.html?hp
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
Houston | TX | | Posted: 7:54 AM on 09.17.09
->> We've all been victims of a bad crop from time to time. I can appreciate the perspective of both sides, whether I agree or not.

As to cropping the image poorly, at least Newsweek didn't cut it down to a mugshot.

I'm biting my tongue with respect to other issues I have about this. I do find the comments in the above link pretty interesting whether I agree with them or not it says much about the perception of what we do and how it is received/respected.
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David Harpe, Photographer
Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 9:55 AM on 09.17.09
->> At least now we have the Internet. Before if you disagreed with a bad crop you couldn't say anything where anyone could hear you. Now at least there are avenues for your opinion to be voice, and debate to occur.

Cropping and choosing the worst possible "Forrest Gump" frame from a high-fps sequence of a public official are two of the most common and egregious forms of editorializing with photographic content. It was so bad with GWB that I fully expected to see a monkey walk off of AF1 the first time I covered him visiting our town. Humorous? Sure. Fair? Not at all.

It's understandable how the public can develop distrust when this type of content makes it into publication. It's not just one person who makes this decision - the photographer, multiple editors, writers, page layout people, etc. all see these images before they head out the door. The fact that so many people in the chain see and accept these images for publication only adds to the political "conspiracy" perception many people have with respect to the media.
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David Harpe, Photographer
Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 9:56 AM on 09.17.09
->> (to be "voiced" the above should read :-)
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 11:40 AM on 09.17.09
->> The Newsweek flak says,"We cropped the photograph using editorial judgment to show the most interesting part of it."
That's a nice bit of sophistry as opposed to any real clarification. Obviously the editorial choice was that of creating a "bloody" visual metaphor that was about as subtle as a Kanye West music video critique. The real question remains whether the photo editors volunteered that interpretation or was it mandated from a word side editor bent on shaping a story?
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 11:14 PM on 09.18.09
->> In order to show that he's serious I'm sure that Mr. Kennerly will refuse to accept the money that Newsweek owes him for publishing such a sorry interpretation of his work.
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 12:42 AM on 09.19.09
->> So Jim, you seem to be suggesting that, in addition to having his images butchered, Dave should allow Newsweek to do it for free?

--Mark
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 12:59 AM on 09.19.09
->> I totally agree with Kennerly.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 7:51 AM on 09.19.09
->> Yeah, I may not like Cheney but that was the ultimate hatchet job by the editors. And that excuse for the action by Newsweek was like putting whip cream on a fresh cow pie, it still stinks.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 9:23 AM on 09.19.09
->> It's a piss poor use of a photo. Cheney = Raw meat . Come on. Is this the best the editors of Newsweek can do?

When people make this kind of decision without any consideration as to the long term impact on journalism, it chips away at how readers view the objectivity of media. It happens slowly. A chip here, a chip there. Next thing you know, you have parents accusing you (literally) of media bias.It filters down to the local level.

While Mr. Cantor raises a good question - was it the photo or word side editor - this much is obvious: Whoever did it was LAZY and less than forthright.

I'm far from a supporter of the former Vice President. This kind of stunt gives Cheney and his supporters ammo when they claim liberal media bias.

Shame on Newsweek.
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