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Tungsten/Daylight reversal
Darren Whitley, Photographer
Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 5:19 PM on 08.14.09
->> Does anyone know any easy way to find Robert Hanashiro's write up on Tungsten/Daylight reversal? Search only gave me two links using Hanashiro and Tungsten.

I understand the technique, but I wanted to share his article with a student photographer.

In the original article by Robert, he photographed a celebrity in a hotel room with a lot of daylight. By shooting tungsten FILM and then adding tungsten filters to his strobes, he made everything illuminated with ambient light appear with a blue-ish hue. Everything illuminated with the strobe was daylight balanced.
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Colter Ray, Student/Intern, Photographer
San Marcos | TX | United States | Posted: 6:55 PM on 08.14.09
->> I've done this before, and the simplest way to explain it is to set your white balance to tungsten (natural light become blue) and put an orange filter over the strobe illuminating the subject (which brings them back to a normal white balance)

It's a cool trick. My best results have been for outdoor portraits at dusk - makes the sky even deeper blue.
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Robert Weber, Student/Intern, Photographer
Rochester | Ny | USA | Posted: 6:59 PM on 08.14.09
->> Darren,
Dave Black does a lot of cool work with this, here's a link to one of his workshops on the ranch where he goes over it using a digital camera and your white balance.


http://www.daveblackphotography.com/workshop/09-2006.htm
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Colter Ray, Student/Intern, Photographer
San Marcos | TX | United States | Posted: 10:29 PM on 08.14.09
->> My bad Darren, I didn't read your entire post. I tried to find the article you were talking about but couldn't find it - I'd try www.strobist.com though, it's most likely there in the Lighting 101 section.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 12:08 AM on 08.15.09
->> It's called color back.

Mixing daylight (usually ambient) and tungsten light:
- you shoot tungsten transparency film (or set your digital camera's color balance to tungsten)
- convert your main source light to tungsten --- if it's stobes you use a full CTO gel (I usually add a 1/2 CTO to add a little more warmth); or use tungsten balanced hot lights)
- everywhere daylight balanced light hits will turn blue (under expose that by 1/2 to a full stop to deepen the blue effect)

The tricky part of this is exposure, balancing the two light sources to get the tones you want for the effect.

And probably the biggest concern is light spill from the main light slipping over to the background, washing out the "blue'ing effect".

That's why most of the time I use a grid on the gel'ed key light (or grid a softbox).

Digital makes this a little easier because you can "chimp" to check exposure and color.

Bur I've always felt this looks a lot better shot on tungsten (medium format) film rather than digital (maybe with some post work in Photoshop).

Thanks for the idea...I will add this to the list of topics for a series of basic lighting videos we're starting work on!

(Sorry for any typos or grammer issues...I'm on the iPhone waiting for a movie to start.)
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Eric Francis, Photographer
Omaha | NE | United States | Posted: 1:50 AM on 08.15.09
->> I've been using the tech. a lot lately..... it takes a little practice, but once you've got it down, you can usually throw it together pretty fast.

Robert, I am amazed at your iPhone typing skills. I am still struggling with that.

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