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Are you sitting down? UK ban on "Photoshopping" coming
Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 12:43 AM on 08.05.09 |
->> here we go... It was bound to happen... Next it'll be here in the US
http://tinyurl.com/mgd6os |
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Nick Morris, Photographer
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San Marcos | CA | United States | Posted: 12:50 AM on 08.05.09 |
| ->> Good luck with that one! |
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Max Lashin, Photographer, Assistant
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Fort Lauderdale | FL | United States | Posted: 12:52 AM on 08.05.09 |
| ->> Throwing away all those Scott Kelby photoshop books today worked out in the end! |
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Jamie Sabau, Photographer
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Pickerington | OH | US | Posted: 12:53 AM on 08.05.09 |
| ->> Twiggy is back? Wow, next you're going to tell me bell bottoms are back in fashion. |
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Matthew Hinton, Photographer, Assistant
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New Orleans | LA | USA | Posted: 1:30 AM on 08.05.09 |
->> You mean like this?
"Fox News airs altered photos of NY Times reporters"
http://mediamatters.org/research/200807020002
Then FOX complained when Newsweek failed to alter a cover photo of Sarah Palin.
http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/10/09/fox-whining-about-unretouche.../
I think it's okay because Fox News won a court ruling saying it was legal for them to lie because the FCC policy for intentional falsification of the news is not well defined.
http://www.2dca.org/opinion/February%2014,%202003/2D01-529.pdf
"We agree with WTVT [Fox Affiliate] that
the FCC’s policy against the intentional falsification of the news – which the FCC has called its “news distortion policy” – does not qualify as the required “law, rule, or
regulation” under section 448.102.
The FCC has never published its news distortion policy as a regulation with definitive elements and defenses." |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 1:48 AM on 08.05.09 |
->> holy god, someone shoot me please. I was dumb enough to click on these links. what a bunch of morons.
"newsweek would not be in BIDNESS!!!!!"
what an idiot. |
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 2:27 AM on 08.05.09 |
->> So go ahead and ban the use of Photoshop in any advertisements for cosmetics targeted to those under the age of 16, it will just give airbrush artist and "old school" retouchers work again.
I mean come on, as if the models they use in most commercial advertising look anything like 99.9% of real women anyways.
Doesn't matter if L'Oreal photoshops an image of Eva Longoria in its cosmetics ad or not, using that same product is not going to make you look like her and no one in their right mind should expect to. |
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Neil Turner, Photographer
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Bournemouth | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 8:34 AM on 08.05.09 |
->> Like most scare stories on badly written web-sites it has a very small basis in truth. Advertisements targeting young people cause a lot of problems right across the world and several European countries have taken major steps to regulate advertising aimed at kids and anyone whose lack of media literacy makes them vulnerable to this kind of promotional activity.
There are a number of documented cases of young girls and boys who develop body image issues after seeing perfect people on TV, in magazines and on billboards. Eating disorders, seeking cosmetic surgery as teens and even self-harm and suicide are being linked to advertisements and even editorials and the term "photoshopping" is a convenient shorthand for the kind of image manipulation that goes on at many levels.
Ban Photoshop? No. Legislate against the use of heavily manipulated images to promote products and lifestyles to those who have not developed the ability to see through them? It has to be seriously considered.
Neil |
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Robert Scheer, Photographer
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Indianapolis | IN | USA | Posted: 8:46 AM on 08.05.09 |
| ->> Not saying I agree with it wholesale, but if the photoshopping ban picks up steam, it'll certainly cut down on the "you newspaper guys photoshop everything" comments from the public. |
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 2:01 PM on 08.05.09 |
->> Key when it comes to young people is education not legislation.
Inform them about how images can be manipulated so that when they see a cosmetic ad, they won't think a 59 year old model has perfectly smooth skin and attribute it to the product but rather know that imperfections in skin can be digitally erased to make people appear in ads more attractive than they are in reality.
When I was in school we had to take a class on statistics and instead of strictly mathematical, it was based around how statistics are used and abused in the media and advertising.
Once you learn how sample size, standards of deviation etc can really distort the results of a poll, your not going to be as impressionable to its results without first analyzing the information.
We need a free society thats able to make its own informed conclusions and not one where a govt feels the need to control what we can see how we can see it, even when it does have our best interest in mind. |
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John Germ, Photographer
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Wadsworth | Oh | USA | Posted: 2:45 PM on 08.05.09 |
->> Wow - imagine where this could go. Imagine a McDonald's commercial where they actually had to use a mashed-up hamburger that was completely obscured by the bun. Or imagine fitness equipment commercials that had to use real-life people that bought their products and expected the "abdominal oblitorator" to turn their 325 lb gut into "abs of steel".
I vote for truth in all advertising!! |
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 3:24 PM on 08.05.09 |
->> Hey now John, they say "results not typical" or "extraordinary results" in the fine print on those fitness claims
Its just that 325lb'ers seem to think they'll be one of the extraordinary cases for some reason lol |
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
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Matthew Hinton, Photographer, Assistant
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New Orleans | LA | USA | Posted: 7:56 PM on 08.06.09 |
->> So I got a couple of "Huhs?"
I guess my point more clearly is that a least for television there is no clear ban on Photoshop or even falsifying the news. In fact there is no clear ban from the FCC that holds up in court, or at the very least the Supreme court in Florida where the Fox affiliate was found to have not violated a clear policy from the FCC.
And it appears Photoshopping has become so ubiquitous that people, Fox News among them, actually criticized a non-retouched photo of Sarah Palin on the cover of Newsweek. Fox wasn't alone in this critique an MSNBC anchor and many others also criticized it for not being retouched / Photoshopped.
I wasn't really stating an opinion just pointing out the present state of things.
But yes I do thing Photoshopping is bad in fact dangerous when use it to make reporters look more strange or evil. As one person commented on the media matters site about the distorted NY Times reporters "Reminds me of the caricatures of Jews in Nazi Germany."
Oh darn. I've gone done it. I've proved Godwin's Law true again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law |
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John Bowersmith, Photographer
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Lubbock | Tx | USA | Posted: 2:25 PM on 08.08.09 |
->> Wasn't there a movie with Dudley Moore about truth in advertising? He hired a bunch of people in a mental institution to write ads and they all went really well. I think the one for Volvo was something like, "You won't get a blowjob from some woman you don't know when you're diving a Volvo, but you won't die in a car crash. Volvos aren't sexy, they are boxy and safe. Vovlo, boxy, but safe."
Or something like that.
I think skin cream would be something like, "It won't make you look any younger, but it won't give you a vicious skin rash either."
For newspaper and documentary people this kind of action really shouldn't matter much at all. If you're pulling Dietrich or Walski kind of stuff, you might be a little worried. |
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Bill Ross, Photographer
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Colorado Springs | CO | USA | Posted: 1:49 AM on 08.09.09 |
->> You mean like "Truth in advertising?"
Now there's a novel idea... |
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Jack Megaw, Student/Intern, Photographer
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