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Photos and "critical infastructure"?
Erik Markov, Photographer
Kokomo | IN | | Posted: 3:58 PM on 08.03.09
->> Homeland Security's Janet Napolitano's says people should contact authorities if they see someone taking photos of "critical infastructure."

One step forward, two steps back. It's no wonder we never seem to get anywhere. Now if only there was some music to go with this tango.

http://nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2009/08/security.html
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Alan Look, Photographer
Bloomington | IL | United States | Posted: 4:20 PM on 08.03.09
->> Oh my gosh, I just saw the Google Maps car drive past and the TerraServer satellite go over head.

What's Janet's number?
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Erik Markov, Photographer
Kokomo | IN | | Posted: 4:45 PM on 08.03.09
->> Well Alan, I'm afraid that giving out Janet's # would be a breach of security protocol. You know how the govt is, pass the buck to someone else. It made me think of the other discussion, about photographing the Constitution. Now that is a critical piece of infrastructure, at least in the sense of "freedom." Yet, we aren't allowed to shoot that, but it seems as tho the Constitution is the exact thing they are using to supposedly try and "protect" us. God I wish George Carlin were still here, he would have the perfect way to sum up this b.s. It's a vicious circle.
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Alan Look, Photographer
Bloomington | IL | United States | Posted: 4:54 PM on 08.03.09
->> Erik, as Ron White so eloquently states "you can't fix stupid". Did we elect Janet, or was she appointed? (just trying to figure out if 2 wrongs make a right)

I've got photo's from the '70's that show a nuclear power reactor being built. I guess I'd better lock them in a vault. Funny, we were encouraged to "promote" the place back then. Now I get shot for just driving by with a cam? I guess it's no nevermind. Those were taken on film. No one will want those in this digital age. Heck, they are probably not even in color.
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Fredrik Naumann, Photographer
Oslo | Oslo | Norway | Posted: 5:26 PM on 08.03.09
->> Time to sign up: http://www.not-a-crime.com/
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Geoff Miller, Photographer
Portage | MI | USA | Posted: 7:23 PM on 08.03.09
->> They told me that if I voted for McCain this sort of thing would happen... I guess they were right!!!
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Michael Durisseau, Photographer, Assistant
Santa Fe/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 8:58 PM on 08.03.09
->> Here is the clip from Fox...pay particular attention to the rehtoric at about the :40 mark remaining...this is the kind of thing, especially without the benefit of law, that makes our job more difficult...

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streaming...|Janet%20Napolitano
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Michael Durisseau, Photographer, Assistant
Santa Fe/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 9:33 PM on 08.03.09
->> Here is the letter I plan on sending via e-mail to Secretary Napalitano:

Ms. Secretary,

I heard the comments you made July 29, 2009, on Fox News, regarding the 'War on Terror'. I take particular exception to your statement made late in the interview, when you were describing how the public can help in the fight. Please understand, I am not against the 'War on Terror', but I AM against making the public overly sensitive or alarming the public unnecessarily.

As a professional photojournalist, newspaper editor, and writer, it is incumbent upon me to tell the stories, as I have opportunity, as accurately as possible. In those instances, information that may cause undue alarm for the readership I am careful to state in a way that, for the prudent, will not create any panic.

The statement you made regarding photographers, though, is most disturbing. There are already difficulties in balancing the First Amendment right of freedom of speech, with the 'war on terror'. Additionally, the letter from the FBI to local law enforcement from a number of years ago, while not a law, is acted upon as such, and allows for too much latitude in its 'enforcement'.

To illustrate, there are a great number of people, just trying to do their job, that are being detained by law enforcement for nothing more than doing their job. I personally know an individual who was asked to give his photography work, that he did not own, over to the police, for working on a public street, photographing a newsworthy event.

You, Ms. Napalitano, seem to be working to keep the citizens of this country safe, but at the same time, sabotaging, perhaps, the efforts of some who could be assisting you and your agency in their efforts. Perhaps you might reconsider your position on photographers, and take the time to see how news photography works. I can tell you that I might be "...taking photographs of a piece of critical infrastructure that doesn't seem to make any sense..." It may not make any sense to you, or someone that does not do the job that we do, but it is NOT a reason to be suspicious. Law enforcement should be more wary of those that carry the pocket-sized or "point-and-shoot" cameras; that are not as obvious as what most professional photographers work with on a day-to-day basis.
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Eileen Blass, Photographer
xxxxx | xx | USA | Posted: 10:16 PM on 08.03.09
->> Michael,
The single most important thing you must do is spell her name right. I'm just sayin.....

:)
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Michael Durisseau, Photographer, Assistant
Santa Fe/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 10:34 PM on 08.03.09
->> I agree...I copied it from the website...still may have mis-typed it... :) It's Napolitano...
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Tony Sirgedas, Photographer
Pierce County | WA | USA | Posted: 12:13 AM on 08.04.09
->> Whew... I sure glad she said "we don't need to be a nation that lives in a state of fear." I feel so much better now.
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Andrew Worrall, Photographer
Columbia | M0 | | Posted: 12:32 AM on 08.04.09
->> I personally think, such as, maps. If US citizens in America knew in the nation where the Iraq were, such as they wouldn't take, such as, pictures of "critical infrastructure."

(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww - in case you're not familiar already)
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Nick Morris, Photographer
San Marcos | CA | United States | Posted: 1:19 AM on 08.04.09
->> Come on Andrew!! Upton is genius and Kimmell proves it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR75L08SBHo&NR=1
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