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David Bergman behind-the-scenes w/ The President at All-Star
John Strohsacker, Photographer
Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 9:14 AM on 07.15.09
->> David Bergman behind-the-scenes with The President at the All-Star Game in St. Louis.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0907/obama.allsta...
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Octavian Cantilli, Photographer, Assistant
Bay City | MI | United States | Posted: 9:25 AM on 07.15.09
->> 17 photos... 17 moments...
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 10:17 PM on 07.15.09
->> David is not only a GREAT photographer, he is one of the nicest men I have ever met (and my neighbor too!)
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Matt Brown, Photographer
Fullerton | CA | USA | Posted: 10:17 PM on 07.15.09
->> Behind-the-scenes? Maybe one or two are really behind-the-scenes moments. Just because the President is in the photo it doesn't make it a better photo.
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Mike Strasinger, Photographer
Nashville | TN | USA | Posted: 11:42 PM on 07.15.09
->> I think what makes them Behind-the scene type is that there doesn't seem to be other photogs there as well. Looks like special access was granted.And if your assignment is to take pics of the President, it does make for a better photo if the President is in the shot. Nice photos,David.
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Dianna Russell, Photographer
Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 4:06 AM on 07.16.09
->> Very nice photos. It's too bad the camera man had to be in the middle of #15. It's also too bad the tv cameras always seem to be in the middle of great shots. Don't they have a zoom lens on them?
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Scott Varley, Photographer
Torrance | CA | USA | Posted: 4:37 AM on 07.16.09
->> Pete Souza also has some nice work from the pre-game on the White House Flickr page
http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/

(of course he always has behind the scenes access)
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 10:10 AM on 07.16.09
->> Matt B. - Only one or two? Boy, you have some tough expectations. "Behind the scenes" typically means stuff the general public doesn't see. While I agree the images of the president on the field aren't really behind the scenes photos, about 11-12 images certainly aren't public access. Not sure what your standards are for a true "behind the scenes" photograph, but I for one don't really need to see a Presidential dump.
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John Strohsacker, Photographer
Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 1:51 PM on 07.18.09
->> follow up ...
http://www.davidbergman.net/blog/2009/07/17/my-time-with-president-obama-do.../
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Ivan Pierre Aguirre, Student/Intern, Assistant
El Paso | TX | United States | Posted: 2:27 PM on 07.18.09
->> I agree Debra. He is a really nice guy! Easy to talk to.
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 5:34 PM on 07.18.09
->> it is so tiring to read posts on here, everyone rips down the other person....gets very old
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Matt Brown, Photographer
Fullerton | CA | USA | Posted: 6:10 PM on 07.18.09
->> Bradly, Yes I have very very high expectations, ask anyone during the SSA workshops or photo judging I have done. TV was all over the place, MLB was leading him around, it is very tough to get true behind the scenes photo from something like that. Look at them a week or month later and it will just be a President being lead around and MLB players laugh. I did the same thing with Bush in 2001 during the College World Series. It was hard to keep people from getting into a shot and flat out killing the photo. It was very control by ESPN at the time. I was not dumping on David at all, I respect his work very much.
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 7:48 PM on 07.18.09
->> Matt B. - I guess I'm confused. Is the criteria you mentioned a game-breaker for what you consider a "true behind the scenes photo?" Is the fact that TV cameras were present or that the president had handlers leading him around kill it for you? What about David? Was he "killing the photo" for the TV guys who had equal "behind the scenes" access?

Again, at least to me, "behind the scenes" is typically stuff that the general public attending the event doesn't see, and I think David's photos qualify. I suppose we could sit here and hash out semantics of the proper qualifiers of such images, but I personally think you're nit-picking here. Yes, in a week or a month these images will be just a few more photos of the president, but it doesn't change the fact that David was granted access that a vast majority didn't have.
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 2:40 PM on 07.20.09
->> Matthew,
seems photographers do this all the time and it comes down to one thing in my opinion-jealously.
What makes David Bergman stand out to me is not only his great images, but he is one of the most talented photographers I have EVER met who is so approachable, doesn't talk down his nose to ANYONE and is there to help out anyone who asks. Instead of having this "holier than thou" attitude like so many of our counterparts, he is warm and friendly. Then, when you look into his background and see the images he creates and how many Sports Illustrated covers he has has, it's an "OMG" moment.
There is a reason he gets this access.

Debbie
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Matt Brown, Photographer
Fullerton | CA | USA | Posted: 6:36 PM on 07.20.09
->> Debra, have you heard of an opinion. I just gave my opinion. Not jealously, opinion. Not SI covers,opinion. Not access,opinion. All together, opinion!
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 7:18 PM on 07.20.09
->> Matt,

my post was towards MATTHEW but interesting how you thought it was towards you

there is a MATT post here and a MATTHEW, mine was for MATT

all together now-it was for MATT
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