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canon 5dmk2 video question
Peter Tarry, Photographer
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croydon | Surrey | England | Posted: 11:56 AM on 07.13.09 |
->> Morning all,
I just spent a couple of days shooting stills with a 5d mk2. I really was impressed with the camera and shot a lot of the Wimbledon Women's final with it. Although not as quick as my mark 3 I still found the frame rate to be good ( certainlty for tennis) and the af to be pretty accurate too.
What I would like to know though is how good is the video function on it, I know a lot of very good stuff has been shot on it by the likes of Mr Laforet, but are many people using it on a daily basis to shoot features with, or using in preference to dedicated hd video cameras.
I find when I use video (canon xha1) I enjoy the experience but because its still a new field to me I find myself thinking a lot about the camera controls and if its recording properly. so does the dslr video route seem more natural to a stills shooter ? Do you have enough control over the image and is the lack of full video control a problem? or are there any other pro or cons? |
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
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Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 12:19 PM on 07.13.09 |
->> Check the updates in the firmware Peter, the camera has pretty full control now. You can change ISO, aperture and shutter to whatever you want as of a month ago. The only lacks now is the autofocus still isn't great in some aspects, and I sure wish you could change frame rate, but several video cameras don't even have that, including the XHA1 (No, I don't count 24, 30 or 60i true frame rate changes, things still move normal in them!)
The footage is great, in some aspects just as good as when I shoot on the RED. But, my hang up right now for me, is not having a video editor to handle the files, since I have FC studio 1, and won't buy two unless I know 3 isn't coming out. |
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
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Powell | TN | USA | Posted: 11:42 PM on 07.18.09 |
->> using the 5DMII with the firmware update that allows for full manual control combined with a good shotgun mic and this little jewel:
http://www.adorama.com/VDBDXA5D.html
give you a pretty full functional unit with which you can do some really nice things... This am, I shot an interview with this setup using a 12" shotgun mike and a 50mm f/1.2L at around f/2 and the results were tremendous.
the lack of depth of field will set this camera/lens apart from anything you can produce with a normal video camera under $50K. It's giving you real 35mm film look, though, sans the organic feel of film and its mellow feel.
I'm using my conventional camcorder less and less.. but when you need to slow zoom or do a pan, the latter is probably still better. if you're bolted down on sticks, the 5D just makes eye candy all day long... with all the new advances in shake control in post even in iMovie, handheld stuff actually works too... |
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
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Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 4:09 AM on 07.19.09 |
| ->> Patrick, what are you using to edit the footage? I can't get my Final Cut to play with it very well. Course, its FCS 1. |
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
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Powell | TN | USA | Posted: 8:01 AM on 07.19.09 |
->> I use imovie 6 and 9, I'm embarrassed to say. I have fc studio but haven't figured out how to use it yet. You're better off learning first on any version of FC though. Even FC Express would be good. Imovie has become like crack for me. I know I need to learn FC, but it's so easy now....
The reason the stuff looks so good on the MII is all about chip size. Shooting the 5D is like shooting medium format video. Shooting wide open even with the 24-105L is an awesome experience... |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 10:07 AM on 07.19.09 |
| ->> Patrick, as far as I know FC express doesn't play well with the markII5D. that is probably the most irritating thing about the camera. it makes awesome video but it's a bitch to edit. |
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John Todd, Photographer
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Palo Alto | CA | usa | Posted: 10:34 AM on 07.19.09 |
->> Patrick,
Can you post your rig for us? Looking for a microphone for mine and cannot seem to find your old posts on the subject.
Thanks |
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Jason Joseph, Photographer
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Dublin | OH | USA | Posted: 11:23 AM on 07.19.09 |
->> I have had great success with converting the 5DmkII files to Apple's ProRes in Compressor (if you have FCS 2). Once converted, the files play very well with others. I recently did a project where I used a 5DmkII along with a Panasonic HPX-2000 ($27,00 camera without the lens).
Here is the non-HD version: http://vimeo.com/5590086
I found myself trying to get rid of the Panasonic's footage in the edit b/c it didn't stand up to the Canon. BTW - most of the 5D footage was with either a Zeiss 85mm/f1.4, Zeiss 50mm /f1.4, or a 70-200/2.8. See if you can pick out the Panasonic's shots in the final edit. It really isn't hard to do. They stick out like a sore thumb! |
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Robert Caplin, Photographer
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Myung Chun, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 2:07 PM on 07.19.09 |
->> If you're having problems editing the Canon files, use the free software Mpegstreamclip to batch convert the footage to something more edit friendly.
http://www.squared5.com/
It's a little time consuming if you have a lot of footage but will pay off when you're actually editing since you're not having to constantly render the footage. |
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Joshua Brown, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 4:00 PM on 07.19.09 |
->> This was all put together in iMovie 08.
http://www.vimeo.com/2648294
Most of what I am doing now is just simple linear footage arranged together with crossfades, I don't need the overhead of FCP to do that. My guess is that many of the people here are looking to do something similar for documentary, wedding, or sports videos.
I am still using iMovie 09 until Final Cut Studio 3 comes out at some point and will hopefully have more native support for h.264 footage (although ProRes is great). To me the biggest advantage of Studio is Color, Motion, Soundtrack, and Compresssor to really polish the project.
I'm using the Rode VideoMic for on camera audio
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/363083-REG/Rode_VIDEOMIC_VideoMic_Cam...
I just picked up the little Edirol R09 for external sound
http://www.edirol.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=332&Itemid=...
This is one of my favorite things I have bought for video
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/542007-REG/Litepanels_LP_MICRO_LPMICR...
I also find that the R-Strap has been really useful for video because I can pull it tight out away from my body and instantly stabilize the video
http://www.blackrapid.com/rs4.php
This has also been useful in cutting down the light for bright scenes
http://www.singh-ray.com/varinduo.html
The most frustrating thing for me has been the limitation of space and processor speed dealing with all of this (not to mention the time it takes to edit) , but I recently bought a MacPro with an internal RAID and 16gb of RAM, so thats no longer an excuse. now I need to find some more content :) I would just say don't let the fact that you don't own or know FCS well enough stop you from jumping into the video world... |
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