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Michael Jackson Dead?
Eric Neitzel, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Ventura | CA | USA | Posted: 6:03 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> According to TMZ.Com...
If so, wow... |
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Steven Bisig, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 6:22 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> seems that they are jumping the gun. not sure, other news outlets saying he is in a coma.
steven b~ |
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Michael Cullen, Photographer
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Wexford Town | 0000 | Ireland | Posted: 6:24 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> http://www.latimes.com/
its all over the media |
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Eric Neitzel, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Ventura | CA | USA | Posted: 6:24 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Nope the LA Times just reported that he is dead as well...just came out a few minutes ago.
http://www.latimes.com/
Sad...it was an interesting 5 months in Santa Maria. |
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
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Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 6:48 PM on 06.25.09 |
| ->> I'll miss Farrah. That's it. |
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 6:52 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Anyone besides me ever notice that it always comes in threes?
Ed McMahon (Tuesday)
Farrah Fawcett (Today)
Michael Jackson (Today) |
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James Broome, Photographer
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Tampa | FL | US | Posted: 7:09 PM on 06.25.09 |
| ->> AP has confirmed MJ. |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 7:17 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Cardiac arrest is the cause.
I just hope that incredibly talented and trouble soul finds peace.
Michael |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 7:28 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Jody - do a google search for deaths in threes. Very commonly discussed occurrence.
This event was certainly an interesting experience in watching how different outlets handle news. TMZ was reporting Michael as dead well before anyone else, with all other outlets slowly going from "hospitalized" to "coma" to the final outcome. |
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William Maner, Photographer
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Biloxi | MS | USA | Posted: 7:31 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Wow... Not often that you have two entertainment/cultural icons pass away on the same day..
This will be one of those days like August 16, 1977--the day Elvis died..people can recall where they were when they heard the news..
I was at an area K-Mart buying two assemble-it-yourself bookcases.. I was walking past the TV sets when I saw the first news reports about Elvis.. |
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 8:46 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> "This will be one of those days like August 16, 1977--the day Elvis died..people can recall where they were when they heard the news.."
I was ten and I was vacuuming the living room. Elvis was the first concert I ever saw which is why I think it impacted me so much. I loved Elvis! |
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Eric Neitzel, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Clinton | UT | USA | Posted: 8:58 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Sorry, I am a little too young (just a little) to remember where I was when Elvis died (I was 2 at the time)...
The three days I remember exactly where I was and exactly how everything was are:
The OJ Verdict
The 1989 SF Earthquake
9/11 |
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Rainier Ehrhardt, Photographer
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Augusta | GA | USA | Posted: 9:06 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Ha, I was just a glimmer in my father's eye when Elvis died.
The OJ verdict, I was in Mr. Morrow's 8th grade science class. Will never forget how obvious and clear cut those who were happy and those who were outraged was.
9/11 I was getting ready for my 10 a.m. communication theories class in college. Needless to say I never went to class that day.
And today I was in the newsroom and it came across TMZ first then the AP wire.
Wow. |
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Michael Durisseau, Photographer, Assistant
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Santa Fe | TX | USA | Posted: 9:07 PM on 06.25.09 |
| ->> I was telling my wife, I never thought I would see it in my lifetime: The death of The King (Elvis) and the King (MJ)...Long live the King! |
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Tim Snow, Photographer
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Montreal | Qc | Canada | Posted: 9:12 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> All I kept thinking after his death, though I'm not a fan and probably haven't given his music a second though since I was 10, is what a huge waste of talent and potential. I realize that it was not all his doing, he was brought up in terrible conditions, he had millions of hangers-on like Elvis did, and he probably lost the handle on his life years ago...what a waste.
He goes into the file with Elvis, Cobain, Joplin, Morrison, and all of the others... |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 9:36 PM on 06.25.09 |
| ->> what will the front pages be tomorrow-Michael, Farrah, or a split front page? |
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Will Lester, Photographer
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Ontario | CA | USA | Posted: 9:44 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Michael by far will get the headlines, Farrah will get a much smaller sub headline.
Where was I when I heard MJ was dead.......shooting a topless PETA protester. |
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Aaron Rhoads, Photographer
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mccomb | ms | | Posted: 10:20 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> "This will be one of those days like August 16, 1977--the day Elvis died..people can recall where they were when they heard the news.."
I was sitting on the john. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 10:22 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> William -
Bill Walsh/Ingmar Bergman - 7/30/2007.
Mahatma Gandh/Orville Wright 1/20/1948
John Adams/Thomas Jefferson 7/4/1826
Aldous Huxley/President John Kennedy/CS Lewis 11/22/1963
Orson Welles/Yul Brynner 10/11/1985
Milton Berle/Dudley Moore/Billy Wilder 3/27/2002
Federico Fellini/River Phoenix 10/31/1993
Jim Henson/Sammy Davis, Jr. 5/16/1990
Buddy Holly/The Big Bopper/Ritchie Valens 2/3/1959
I couldn't tell you where I was when I heard Elvis died, and I imagine in a very short time period, I'll forget where I was when I heard Michael Jackson was dead. Cultural icon or not - neither holds enough significance in my life to matter enough for me to remember. |
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William Maner, Photographer
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Biloxi | MS | USA | Posted: 10:27 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Responding to Eric Neitzel...
Of the three events you listed:
The O.J. verdict--I was at the local pharmacy to pick up some medicine for my mom.
The 89 SF Earthquake--I was getting ready to pencil over the page negatives of our weekly paper. I had my portable TV set with me and was getting ready to watch the World Series game while I opaqued the paste-up lines from the page negatives.
9-11? I had just gotten back to the house after a quick trip to the neighborhood grocery store around 9 a.m... I flipped on the TV set and saw the live news reports.. Neither of the twin towers had collapsed when I tuned in.. |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 10:31 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> Fountain Valley High, shooting portraits... Great Artist and Performer.
Are all the negative comments neccesary? Just move on or don't post to the thread. Does every thread always have to have some sad sack with negativity? |
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Eric Canha, Photographer
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Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 11:11 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> OJ Verdict--- Election primary, I was a campaign manager getting a box count and delivering coffee.... I still remember that I was at the Ward 1A poll.
9/11 --- I was just getting home from working an overnight in the ER. My wife called to tell me that something was happening in NYC and I turned on the TV. My brother in law lived in Brooklyn at the time. I remember breaking the news to my wife over the phone when the Pentagon was hit and her relaying it to some of her co-workers. I remember a woman in the background screaming in her office. Her (the screamer) brother was a grounds keeper at the Pentagon and that's how she got the news that her brother's building had been attacked. We later found out that it was his day off.
Elvis--- I was on my living room floor watching TV when they broke in with the news. My mom was beyond heartbroken. |
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
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Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 11:25 PM on 06.25.09 |
->> You see, Ed M HAD to die first, so the other two could get announced. "HHHEEEERRRREEESSS....."
I was in a 1977 Ford Pinto with my Dad driving through the Smokey Mountains with my Mom in the car behind us as we were moving from Indiana to North Carolina. Burning Love finished playing, and we got the news. First and nearly only time I saw my dad cry.
MJ, at Peet's Coffee, working on my blog. More sad about Farrah |
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Jeff Barrie, Photographer
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Indianapolis | IN | USA | Posted: 1:14 AM on 06.26.09 |
->> I will give MJ his due for his talent, it can't be denied but, the way the media is remembering him makes me wanna puke. On more than one occasion allegations of child molestation were brought up against him only to have the charges miraculously dropped. Just so happened that accomapanied a nice little pay off for someone too.
One story I saw tonight said he was a very lonley person and sometimes went days without speaking to anyone but children. Now I ask you, is that anywhere near normal? Who else would dangle a child over a balcony and not really see anything wrong with it?
Dude was a whack job for the last 20 year at least. |
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Russ Isabella, Photographer
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Salt Lake City | UT | USA | Posted: 1:23 AM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> And what about John Lennon? Talk about shockers... |
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William Maner, Photographer
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Biloxi | MS | USA | Posted: 1:49 AM on 06.26.09 |
->> Russ Isabella:
I recall the John Lennon story.. I was in my first year of graduate journalism studies. I was working on a content analysis study of ABC's Nightline.
I had not tuned in for the local news, so it was stunning to see Nightline doing a 30 minute report on Lennon's shooting.
My memory's a little fuzzy, but I think CNN made its debut a few months earlier, but CNN wasn't widely available and it wasn't a big player for breaking news stories as it is today.. |
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David Seelig, Photographer
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Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 2:15 AM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> The nite John lennon died I ran into a female friend who says to me I am going up there want to go next thing I know I am at the Dakota.I am tall young and have long hair and a pretty girl wrapped around me a camera on my shoulder for once I cannot shoot. Somoeone starts shooting me and my friend I say hey no shots I am a photographer. Well you r not shooting now, keeps shooting I grabbed her nikon and said no more or I open it. She leaves me alone. It was Marcia Resnick my first real teacher when she taught High school students at her college Cooper Union, and I lied and said I was in HS I was 13 . |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 7:36 AM on 06.26.09 |
->> what will the front pages be tomorrow-Michael, Farrah, or a split front page?
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/default.asp
From a quick glance it looks like most led with Michael and sidebarred Farah. A sudden, unexpected death wins over a slow, expected one. |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 7:49 AM on 06.26.09 |
->> One crazy day, headed up to Hollywood to cover the various memorials held for Jackson, plan was to photograph people at his star in front of the Mann's theatere, but that was covered and blocked off due to the 'Bruno' premiere!
But that did not stop people from gathering!!
12 hrs later... Update with pictures:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=6768 |
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Max Waugh, Photographer
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Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 7:52 AM on 06.26.09 |
->> "From a quick glance it looks like most led with Michael and sidebarred Farah. A sudden, unexpected death wins over a slow, expected one."
I don't think the manner of death has as much to do with it as does the fact that they were in completely different leagues in terms of celebrity. Jackson was a worldwide music star up there with Elvis and the Beatles as a cultural icon. Farrah was a domestic star for a few years whose highlight in terms of appeal and fame was (appropriately for this board) a swimsuit photo.
Though I don't remember anything in terms of where I was when OJ stuff was going on, 9/11 and the death of Kurt Cobain are different stories. Even though I wasn't a fan of Nirvana or really hip to the grunge movement at the time (while living in Seattle!), I still remember where I was when it was announced that a body was found in Cobain's house. 9/11, ironically, helped get me in the door shooting my first official sports gig. I was on a cruise that week leading up to a college football game down in Miami. The game was canceled and rescheduled for December, and I was able to come back down to Florida to photograph the make-up, my first game as a "sports shooter." |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 8:05 AM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> Somewhere, a Governor and a woman from Argentina are thankful. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 8:17 AM on 06.26.09 |
->> Patrick -
Some interesting content - signs of the times I guess -the individual hoisting the laptop playing a video, and an Iphone among the mementos. The other won that caught my eye was that it appears the opportunists were there - #6 with the memorial T-Shirt. |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 12:59 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> Thanks Mark!
Definitely a sign of the times, people singing with iPods and mini speakers [no 8-tracs], the twittering of MJ RIP rumors, etc...
As for cashing in on this, by about 8pm the guys selling t-shirts were out in force, racks being carted around [got pix too] - same thing happens for Lakers Championships, Obama, etc... everyone wants their $$$ |
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Jamey Price, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Danville | KY | USA | Posted: 1:20 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> Ive never heard so much MJ on the radio before. Some of these songs I never knew existed.
However, does anyone else feel bad for the Fawcett family? Her tragic death has been completely overshadowed by the death of MJ.
RIP to both of them |
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
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Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 1:39 PM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> Will they open Neverland like they did Graceland? |
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Jamey Price, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Danville | KY | USA | Posted: 1:47 PM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> What's this about the doctor being investigated? Anyone reading this? |
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Paul Alesse, Photographer
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Centereach | NY | USA | Posted: 1:54 PM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> Maybe it's just me but I don't quite put MJ in the same vein as 9/11 folks. |
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Brian Dowling, Photographer
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Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 1:55 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> I would think the Fawcett family would be happy to be out of the limelight much like Sanford. When I was in middle school, my neighbor died in a plane crash and there were news trucks staked outside their house for a couple days just waiting for his wife to walk outside of the house and interview her.
I can't imagine how horrible it must be to live under a microscope your whole life like MJ did. Not being able to trust anyone because they want your money and everything else that goes along with being that famous.
As for Neverland and the doctor, I'm sure there will be lots of legal battles. There is going to be a huge fight over all his money, assets, and music rights. Doesn't MJ own the rights to most of The Beatles songs too? |
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Jamey Price, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Danville | KY | USA | Posted: 2:14 PM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> Really? WOW. I had no idea about the Beatles songs. Well he was in a lot of debt and correct me if Im wrong but debt gets passed to next of kin if you die so now its his kids' problem. |
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Michael Moriatis, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 3:06 PM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> I give it 3 days before the conspiracy nuts come out with all kinds of outrageous stories about his death. |
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Alan Look, Photographer
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Bloomington | IL | United States | Posted: 3:22 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> Michael M., your giving it 3 days more than you need to. Suspicions were being raised yesterday before they pronounced him dead.
Beatles songs - he did own them, not sure if that still hold true.
Elvis - had just arrived at my freshman year of college, was in my dorm at Southern Illinois.
911 - just got out of a meeting at work and we had it on the monitors in our command center.
The day Kennedy was shot - at my grandmothers for the day
1989 Bay area quake - I had just started a 2nd shift job and got a call from a friend who was trying to reach his wife and needed patched through. He was in the Bay area, his wife here at home. He was ok, thank goodness.
John Lennon - don't recall where I was, but the feeling I had was horrible and then increased when I found out he'd been gunned down. -Imagine- Nuff said.
Jody, I get your point about the 3's. but it depends on where you start counting! Add in Carradine and you can make it to #4.
Farrah - one of the first for me that didn't need a last name, much less one with a hyphen. One of my first real jobs, the boss had the poster on the back of the office door. If he was still the manager there, it would still be hanging. RIP, Farrah |
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Peter Wine, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Dayton | OH | USA | Posted: 3:29 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> I've already heard the first conspiracy story.
Seems that since Paul McCartney is co-owner of the Beatles library (bought a half share when MJ was in $$ trouble, I guess) and perhaps, maybe, could be in the will to get the other half on MJ's death, perhaps Paul hired a hit man to do him in.
It may not be the wackiest, but it may be first.
I don't remember if I heard it last night or this morning though.
The whole situation is hard to comprehend. As a DJ, I grew up playing Michael's music, then had to watch as his persona went south.
It's a weird end to a weird 20+ years, and like Elvis, is just the beginning of his 'after life.'
And yes, I feel for Farrah's family, given that the fact she died on June 25th will always likely be a footnote (at best) in the 'this day in history' things.
But for the time being, I think they are likely happy to be left a little bit alone to grieve. |
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 4:27 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> JFK; I was in the fifth grade in Mrs. Warren's class at Estes Hills Elementary in Chapel Hill, NC. School had just let out for the day when the rumour started circulating in the hallways.
L. Harvey Oswald: I was shooting hoops in the driveway with my brother and my friend when I heard my mom scream from the living room where she was watching his transfer on TV.
Martin Luther King, Jr: I was in Chapel Hill, NC getting ready for school in the morning when it came over the radio.
Robert Kennedy: Don't remember specifically, but I was in jr high.
Nixon Resignation: I was on the air on the 7pm to midnight shift at WSGN in Birmingham, AL when his speech was broadcast. We ran it live, the only time in it's history WSGN ran a live speech.
Elvis: I was a DJ at WIFE in Indianapolis and had just arrived at work when the news hit the AP wire.
J. Lennon: I was driving through a torrential rainstorm in Dallas, TX when it came over the radio. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 5:01 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> "correct me if Im wrong but debt gets passed to next of kin if you die"
In my understanding this is very incorrect. The debt belongs to the estate and would be offset by the assets within the estate. If the debts exceed the assets, well the kids get nothing in the way of inheritance, but they don't end up having to pay off dad's debts from their own assets.
(The above is not legal advise - consult appropriate legal counsel for the full interpretation.) |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 5:38 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> "If the debts exceed the assets, well the kids get nothing"
I believe several kids got upwards of 20 million dollars. Or were you talking about his children? |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 6:19 PM on 06.26.09 |
->> Touche Mr. Martin.
(Of course if those were structured settlements, they may out of luck as well and get to stand in line with the other unsecured creditors) |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 10:27 PM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> The wealth of 24/7 coverage by everyone (except, it seems, CBS in prime time) is disgusting. |
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Tom Weis, Photographer
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Forest Hills | NY | United States | Posted: 11:02 PM on 06.26.09 |
| ->> What?! Elvis is dead?? |
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 1:06 PM on 06.27.09 |
| ->> Another must-read on the financial impact of jackson's death. http://tinyurl.com/l5fezd |
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