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NYC Plane Scare 2
Jack Megaw, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
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Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 5:28 PM on 05.08.09 |
| ->> what a wonderful image. I love it. |
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John Bowersmith, Photographer
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Lubbock | Tx | USA | Posted: 5:32 PM on 05.09.09 |
| ->> Yup, great image. Totally worth $328,000. Personally, I would rather they take our money, put it in a Cessna and dump the cash out while flying over Manhattan. Or better yet, give it to a bank or something. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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Live HVN : Work SFO-NYC | | | Posted: 8:48 PM on 05.09.09 |
| ->> Seriously, thats what they came up with? |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 8:53 PM on 05.09.09 |
| ->> could have easily been photoshopped |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 9:07 PM on 05.09.09 |
->> Once again, for every pissing and moaning about the money:
" Military officials estimate the mission and the photo shoot, aimed at updating file photos of Air Force One -- cost $328,835 in taxpayer money.
But they said 'the hours would have been flown regardless, and the expenses would have been accrued on a different mission.'"
This has been explained several times already in different places, including on here if I'm not mistaken. The personnel involved with these plains are always training and running missions; this money would have been spent on another one anyway. They simply added a photo shoot to one of these missions.
(source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/08/air.force.one.flyover/index.html) |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 9:36 PM on 05.09.09 |
| ->> Kevin, it may have been explain several times, but some of us aint buyin it. |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 9:50 PM on 05.09.09 |
->> "some of us aint buyin it"
That would be the folks that don't understand the way the White House works and want nothing more than to "dis" the President. |
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Mike Brice, Photographer
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 10:31 PM on 05.09.09 |
| ->> Maybe its time for the White House to work a little differently. |
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Luke Sharrett, Student/Intern
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Bowling Green | KY | United States | Posted: 11:36 PM on 05.09.09 |
| ->> John, that was actually one of Bernanke's plans for reversing a national deflation of American currency. Drop money from a helicopter. |
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D. Ross Cameron, Photographer
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Oakland | CA | USA | Posted: 1:11 AM on 05.10.09 |
->> I was gonna say, they have carte blanche to shoot this thing however they want, and that image is the piece of crap they came away with?
Talk about a letdown.
Snottily,
DRC |
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Michael Granse, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 2:22 AM on 05.10.09 |
| ->> Why is it that when people question the current administration they are immediately dismissed as "not understanding?" |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 8:57 AM on 05.10.09 |
| ->> Jim, for many tax payers, this has nothing to do with who is president. |
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 11:18 AM on 05.10.09 |
->> Jeff - No matter who is president, the flight crew needs to remain at the top of their game, and it sounds like the money would've been spent anyway on flight hours accumulated elsewhere. Not defending the communication SNAFU, but let's get some perspective here.
I never heard anyone complaining about taxpayer money when Cheney flew Air Force Two from out here to Wyoming from D.C. 2-3 times a year for eight years to lounge in his vacation home in one of the only gated golf community in Jackson.
Of course, no one really knew where he was or what he was doing at all. The V.P. mansion in D.C. didn't even exist on Google Earth. |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 12:49 PM on 05.10.09 |
->> "...this has nothing to do with who is president...''
I agree. Screw-ups happen during any Presidential administration, and in most administrations they are dealt with quickly. That's what happened with the NYC fly-over.
The people that fly our military's aircraft need flight time to keep on their game. The idea that $300,000 was somehow "wasted" is untrue, unless you want the crew of Air Force One to be unprepared. Rush and Sean may actually want the crew to be unprepared.
The problem was flying low over NYC without telling anyone beforehand, a stupid move that some bright spark probably thought nobody would notice. They did, he's gone, the end.
Some, however, are only too willing to somehow blame the sitting President when something like this happens. They try to turn a simple f**k up into something political for their own ends. They'll excuse and accept torture but decry a Manhattan fly-over. It doesn't make sense. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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Live HVN : Work SFO-NYC | | | Posted: 2:26 PM on 05.10.09 |
->> "Why is it that when people question the current administration they are immediately dismissed as "not understanding?"
ding ding ding...we have a winner. I have no problem with the current administration, in fact I support it. I also support those in the military.
I do however think if the USAF is going to do training that involves the integration of a public relations mission, they may might want to start with making it a positive well thought out public relations mission.
Pilots fly and they need their air time, but a heads up on a photo mission such as this would have really been a good move.
...and if that is the best image that the USAF Photogs came up with from that PR Photo Mission, they may want to explore other photographers next time. |
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 2:42 PM on 05.10.09 |
->> "I do however think if the USAF is going to do training that involves the integration of a public relations mission, they may might want to start with making it a positive well thought out public relations mission.
Pilots fly and they need their air time, but a heads up on a photo mission such as this would have really been a good move."
Hmmm... I don't think anyone here is defending the lack of communication, including the administration, which accepted the resignation of the official who authorized the mission but batched the part where he was supposed to notify anyone in the city of New York. |
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