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White House Photos — Does the Public Need a License to Use?
Frank Niemeir, Photographer
Woodstock | GA | usa | Posted: 6:02 PM on 05.02.09
->> "The White House has recently unveiled its Official White House Photostream on Flickr, posting dozens of stunning photos by official photographer Pete Souza. In posting the photos, the White House chose the least restrictive license available, a Creative Commons Attribution license — which means the public is free to download, copy, and re-mix freely, so long as the original photographer is credited."

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/05/white-house-photos
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 05.02.09
->> Let's not start this again...

Free Calahan!
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Pete Souza, Photographer
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 7:33 PM on 05.02.09
->> The usage terms are embedded with each file.
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | US | Posted: 9:11 PM on 05.03.09
->> What's embedded with the images indicates that the images are copyrighted:

"This official White House photograph is being made available for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be used in materials, advertisements, products, or promotions that in any way suggest approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House."



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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 11:19 PM on 05.03.09
->> So to answer your question, assuming I read it right: no, the public does not need a license. Unless the public is using it to "suggest approval or endorsement".

But, if you're just looking for something that would make a nice framed print on your wall (and there are plenty of those shots there), it sounds like there's nothing wrong with that. Which is good, because that's the first thing that came to mind when Pete posted the link to the photostream.
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Nigel Farrow, Photographer
Suffolk | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 10:35 AM on 05.04.09
->> Am I the only one waiting for the first person to misuse an image ? Could be an interesting court case with positive repercussions for us all.

"Free Calahan!"

Chuck, is that with every two pictures downloaded ?
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 11:11 AM on 05.04.09
->> Kevin - where it says "the public is free to download, copy, and re-mix freely" I wouldn't worry about the FBI busting down your door if you were to make a print and put it on your wall.

I mean, we're ALL paying Pete, right?
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
Live HVN : Work SFO-NYC | | | Posted: 3:34 PM on 05.04.09
->> "Free Calahan!"


Chuck,

Should I start cranking out the t-shirts and bumper stickers?


Some Walter is really what SS can use some days GRIN:)
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 10:06 PM on 05.04.09
->> Actually, his Facebook picture would make a great Shepard Fairey iconic stolen image.
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Alicia Wagner Calzada, Photographer
San Antonio | TX | USA | Posted: 11:14 AM on 05.05.09
->> If someone misused the images, it would not be a copyright violation. Work created by the Federal Government is not subject to copyright (this would be different if the wh photogs were under contract).

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#105

"Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the United States Government, but the United States Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest, or otherwise."

(this should not be confused with work created by states or city governments, which do not fall under this rule, although they may have their own rule).

The references to using to imply endorsement relates more to the right of publicity of the president. That would be an interesting court case.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 6:43 PM on 05.06.09
->> Loosely translated, if you want to use it for personal or editorial use then it's fair game.

If you want to use the image of the president to make money -- make it appear the president personally uses your team sports photos and endorses your business -- the you will have the White House Counsel or AG breathing down your neck
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