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Mock Tea Parties
Nick Morris, Photographer
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San Marcos | CA | United States | Posted: 9:23 PM on 04.15.09 |
| ->> Anyone attend any of the mock tea parties that were held nation wide? I covered one in Escondido CA and I was wondering what is it about protest that bring out the "Dinga Lings" I was approached by several individuals throughout the day with all sorts of conspiracy theories and off the wall gripes and bitches. Of course being the media they seem to think we'll rush to print with their cause or theories. I came to the conclusion today that I'm going to have false business cards made just for this sort of situation. |
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Michael Moriatis, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 10:50 PM on 04.15.09 |
| ->> Have you ever been to an anti-war rally? You get the same kinda Dinga Lings. |
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Chris Riley, Photographer
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Vallejo | CA | USA | Posted: 10:59 PM on 04.15.09 |
->> Nick,
I covered one in Vallejo, with the same results. |
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Rory ODriscoll, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Winona | MN | USA | Posted: 11:01 PM on 04.15.09 |
| ->> I covered one in Winona MN, same thing. |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 11:06 PM on 04.15.09 |
->> Nick,
Having covered one of the tea parties here in Missouri today, I know that there are some extremists that were among those protesting for their personal ideals, but even the wackyiest of wackjobs know that not everything that gets said will make it in the newspaper - but it is their right to say and believe what they want, as protected by their first amendment rights. [like our newspapers]. They are out there to try and get their voices heard, just like you or me might campaign for something we care about.
However:
"I came to the conclusion today that I'm going to have false business cards made just for this sort of situation."
That disturbs me, we DO NOT LIE to our subjects as journalists!
You could have cards printed with less information, the main line number of your company, no cell phone, just your first name, or just an email address - but to give out false business cards or misleading information to anyone is totally uncool and unethical, what if that wackjob has a legitimate story to tell? A legitimate issue within the community? It can and does happen. I am thinking having cards with less info is what you meant to say, but remember:
"Journalism's First Obligation is to the Truth."
http://www.journalism.org/resources/principles
If we are not truthful, how can we expect anyone else to be to us? |
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Rainier Ehrhardt, Photographer
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Augusta | GA | USA | Posted: 11:11 PM on 04.15.09 |
->> I shot a tea party here in Augusta. The best sign by far was "Don't tea-bag my 401K"
Made for some fun pictures. |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Jefferson | MD | USA | Posted: 11:18 PM on 04.15.09 |
| ->> Let's see 'em already! |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Christopher Szagola, Photographer
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Richboro | PA | United States | Posted: 11:36 PM on 04.15.09 |
->> Patrick,
another way to look at that quote is we are responsible to "The Truth", not to be truthful to the subjects we are covering. It is that what we report is true, not how we get the information. For people have used deception to get their stories. Need an example, see Nellie Bly. For I don't think she told the truth of why she wanted to be in the Asylum. Just saying. |
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Jason Brown, Photographer
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Les Stukenberg, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Nick Morris, Photographer
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San Marcos | CA | United States | Posted: 1:28 AM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> Hey Patrick, yeah maybe not "False" but for sure less info. As I was sitting in my Jeep submitting a guy came up accusing me of being a Gov't spy and demanding my card and credentials. He was pretty far out there. It was more him I was referring to than anyone else. It's a bit un-nerving to have someone like that with your personal info. Thanks for helping me set it straight. |
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Michael Moriatis, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 1:52 AM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> I shot photos of Cindy Sheehan at a protest in front of the White House in 2006 and I had people in the group accusing me of spying for Bush. |
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Nick Morris, Photographer
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Doug Holleman, Photographer
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Temple | TX | USA | Posted: 2:46 AM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> I went to a tea party today and there were protesters there protesting the protest. I'm not joking. |
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Ian Solender, Photographer
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Palm Beach Gardens | Fl | USA | Posted: 8:47 AM on 04.16.09 |
->> The following is my opinion and mine alone.
It's so funny watching these protests around the country and I have a few things come to mind.
1. There are alot of signs saying something that we are a christian notaion or country. Do those people think that people that are not christians don't belong? Being jewish myself, maybe I'm not American enough?
2. Do these same people remember that protestors against Bush had a specific area they could protest and if they protested outside that area, they would be arrested or corraled back into it, usually a mile or so away. Is this still happening under Obama?
3. Is it me or do right wing protestors seem to be more violent in their speeches and actions.
4. When you shoot an abortion clinic protest, do you see the same people protesting against Obama at the teabag rallyies? Maybe I'm looking at this through my Jewish eyes? Sorry for the "shoot" pun.
5. Last but not least, did the organizers really think when they called this protest "teabagging"? This is going to be more fuel for comedy writers than all the oil in Texas!! LOL
Just my thoughts and everyone that showed their pics, GREAT STUFF!! |
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Robin Loznak, Photo Editor, Photographer
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PJ Heller, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 3:16 PM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> OK, not to be left out, I uploaded a couple of images to my member page from the “tea party” in Santa Barbara, Calif. |
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Ian Solender, Photographer
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Palm Beach Gardens | Fl | USA | Posted: 3:41 PM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> Please disregard my mispelling... I'm a photographer, not a copy editor! LOL |
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Rick Rowell, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Vista | CA | USA | Posted: 4:08 PM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> Your personal opinions on religion or politics have no place on this web site IMHO. There are many other web sites for that reason, use them! This site is for and about professionals and learning how to become professional in the field of photography. By expressing your opinions on the subjects you are covering, you are showing a bias that is not allied with being impartial. Photojournalism is not that difficult to understand. Share the images and stories, not your personal opinions. You may very well be putting yourself out of work in the future. |
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Paul Gallaher, Photographer
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Temecula | CA | USA | Posted: 5:26 PM on 04.16.09 |
->> I covered one here in Temecula. It was the first time I've had demonstrators demand to know what side of the issue I was on.
One organizer used a megaphone to chastise the media for not covering the event, just as three newspaper photographers, including myself, made pictures of him.
Another man approached me and explained how much he hates newspapers, especially the New York Times, and hopes they all fail and are bought up by Fox News.
It was definitely the most interesting assignment I've had in a while. I had fun!
Here's my favorite image from the day: http://pa.photoshelter.com/c/paulgallaher/img-show/I00000n43hdwHiDM. |
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Nick Morris, Photographer
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San Marcos | CA | United States | Posted: 5:47 PM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> Sorry Rick but IMHO I think your wrong. I shoot as un-bias as I can and do my job quite well as far as center of the road is concerned. But, at the end of the day when all is said and done, I'm as much an American as anyone else and I'm entitled to the same rights as everyone else including my right to an opinion and to express my political and personal beliefs. Just because by day I'm a journalist and must show restraint and be non prejudice and not show a specific slant doesn't mean when I get home and put the camera down that I must carry on. Do you think police officers run around their homes enforcing laws or firefighters spend their days off lecturing about fire safety? We all have the right to an opinion and we especially have a right to express it. I spend everyday making sure it stays that way. This sight as u=you stated is for the growth of professional photography and without personal opinions and beliefs we might as well shit it down. |
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Nick Morris, Photographer
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San Marcos | CA | United States | Posted: 5:48 PM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> I meant shut... fat fingers! Terribly sorry. (might be the same thing though) |
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Rick Rowell, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Vista | CA | USA | Posted: 6:27 PM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> Nick, I think you did not understand the context of my post. After you put down the camera you can express your opinions all you want, I could care less. I do care however when they are expressed on this web site. It's my opinion and I believe that I'm not alone on this. It is not good journalism to give your personal opinions on subjects that you are supposed to be impartial on with-in the context of this web site, which is for the most part about professional photojournalism. When you are with your friends or posting on another web site or having an argument with someone, you can express you opinions all you want, that's your constitutional right. You can even express them here if you like. My point is, that I don't think it's very smart to do so. Just for the record, I did not mention anyone's name in my original post. |
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Bryan Hulse, Photographer
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Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 9:03 PM on 04.16.09 |
| ->> Yep, those middle class, tax paying, constitution loving American's are real ding-a-lings. How dare they stand up for what they believe in! The nerve! They should be censored for sure. |
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
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Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 1:11 PM on 04.19.09 |
->> "Mock Tea Parties." I've seen that in quite a few news stories, but I haven't heard of any that were called "mock" by their organizers. Who stuck that word in there? The "real" Boston Tea Party is never referred to as a "mock" tea party, although it wasn't a real "tea party," either. All are symbolic acts of protest.
Unbiased journalism, I'm sure. |
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Nick Morris, Photographer
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San Marcos | CA | United States | Posted: 1:53 PM on 04.19.09 |
| ->> Just passing along what was written down by word smiths in San Diego. The reason they refer to them as "Mock" is because the enviromentlist threatened a court order stopping protesters from dumping REAL tea into the ocean here in San Diego they were forced to dump sand instead. Hence the use of the term "Mock" |
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Daniel Celvi, Student/Intern
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Carbondale | IL | | Posted: 4:23 PM on 04.19.09 |
->> Ian—
This is just in response to your one question, about seeing the same people at ever protest. Well, on my school campus, I've shot a number of protests. And yes, every time, I see at least a dozen or so of the same people. For every issue. Every time (yes, I am trying to emphasize that). And, this isn't counting the various protest archetypes, including: the one-man media cell phone warrior (collecting video, stills, and audio from his cell phone!), the people who don't seem to quite know what they're protesting (shouting wrong slogans, off topic, etc.), the clever sign guy (which is usually not that clever), the K-1000 (always at least one person, usually in old military clothes, with a K-1000 looking very serious), the freshman PJ student (an offset of the K-1000) and the person who is clearly only there to get with another protestor. I used to have ten or so common protestor types who I would try to find at every protest I covered. Kind of like Where's Waldo—it was a great way to pass the time.
The sad part is I'm not joking... |
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
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bay area | CA | | Posted: 6:09 PM on 04.19.09 |
->> NPR's "On the Media" focused on this media phenomenon in their broadcast 4/17/09. The question posed by the program's editors was: did Fox news cover the events, or manufacture them? Hear for yourself....
http://www.onthemedia.org |
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Ian Solender, Photographer
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Palm Beach Gardens | Fl | USA | Posted: 6:18 PM on 04.19.09 |
->> As much as I appreciate your comments Rick. I think your views on the subject could have been used on another site also.Just kidding! In this day and age your right, this statement can bite me in the butt later... I did make a statement that was not right for this board and should have been on another board. I had a rant and I went with it. BUT as to the thread, I was just trying to make a point about wakadoos in general. Right=wing, left-wing, independent-wing, buffalo-wing, robin-winged, top-winged, etc...... Sorry for expressing my opinion in a thread. It won't happen again..
And Dan, I had to laugh when I read your post. I've seen the same thing! LOL |
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Doug Holleman, Photographer
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Temple | TX | USA | Posted: 2:47 PM on 04.20.09 |
| ->> NPR looking into the the bias of Fox News is like the Pittsburgh Steelers questioning officiating at someone else's Superbowl. |
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