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The best multimedia training for your money
William Robert Sullivan, Photographer, Student/Intern
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St. Louis | MO | | Posted: 9:02 PM on 04.09.09 |
->> Looking for an intense multimedia training opportunity with the best student-to-teacher ratio (2 students for every 1 teacher) out there for hundreds of dollars less than similar workshops?
How about learning from industry leaders who currently work at MediaStorm, The New York TImes, The Washington Post, The LA Times, NPR and more? (These aren't retired consultants who make their living off the workshops, they're the leading, working professionals in the business.)
Previous students do great things after our workshop including winning the NPPA Best of Photojournalism Photojournalist of the Year award and becoming the White House Press Photographer.
We offer hands on training with the newest, cutting edge gear and software -- including Canon's new 5D Mark II HD Video DSLR and the Canon XH A1 HD video camera.
From ethics to motion graphics.
From shooting to editing.
From freelancing multimedia content to composing music.
From wherever you live to Las Vegas. (That's where the workshop is this year.) ;D
This is a training opportunity you shouldn't miss.
Learn more about the NPPA Multimedia Immersion here:
http://blogs.nppa.org/immersion/
Spaces are filling quickly.
Cheers,
Will
(Disclosure, I'm co-chair of this shindig.) |
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
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Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 9:31 PM on 04.09.09 |
->> So who are the instructors? This is missing on all the material.
2 to 1 may mean nothing. Sometimes the 10:1 might be better because of the instructor and reputation. |
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Sean D. Elliot, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Norwich | CT | USA | Posted: 11:22 PM on 04.09.09 |
->> Will could have shared the main workshop page. There you can find the complete faculty list:
http://nppa.org/professional_development/workshops_and_seminars/convergence...
2009 Coaches
Seth Gitner, Roanoke Times
Will Sullivan, St. Louis Post Dispatch
Rob Rosenthal, Salt Workshops
Regina McCombs, Poynter Institute
Pam Chen, Open Society Institute
Josh Meltzer, Freelance
Scott Anger, LA Times
Eric Maierson, MediaStorm
Ben De La Cruz, Washington Post
David Stephenson, Herald-Leader
Coburn Dukeheart, NPR
Jody Sugrue, Freelance Motion Graphics
Mike Schmidt, University of North Carolina
Evan Vucci, Associated Press
Bruce Strong, Syracuse University
Meredith Birkett, MSNBC
Smiley Pool, The Houston Chronicle
Richard Koci Hernandez, University of California, Berkley
Will Yurman, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle
Julie Jones, University of Oklahoma
Miki Meek, The New York Times
It's a pretty top-notch group. |
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William Robert Sullivan, Photographer, Student/Intern
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St. Louis | MO | | Posted: 11:49 PM on 04.09.09 |
->> Thanks, Sean, and good question, Stan!
I let my personal frustration with the design/color scheme on the NPPA info page get in the way of distributing the important information. :D
Neon green and brown? I mean, come on! (That decision was made outside of my realm of control though, so please don't hold it against me or anyone actually running/teaching at this workshop).
Anyway, yes. Those are the teachers so far. There's a couple more potential late additions that haven't been announced yet.
We also have a ton of awesome sponsors, Apple and Canon are going to be providing their top of the line gear. We also have ThinkTank Photo, Delkin, Olympus, Beachtek, Soundslides, Cradlepoint in on the party. And other supporters include MediaStorm, VuVox, AP, MSNBC, Oklahoma University, Syracuse University, so far. More sponsors tba, likely.
If anyone has questions or wants more info, feel freel to contact me through my member page. Thanks for your interest! |
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William Robert Sullivan, Photographer, Student/Intern
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St. Louis | MO | | Posted: 12:03 AM on 04.10.09 |
->> I should also note, that we know times are tough. To help students save on the cost, We're working to help pair them up with each other to split rooms, find rides (if they're in driving distance), and car rentals if needed.
It may not be big, but we're trying help out where we can since a good portion of our students are paying for this themselves to invest in their futures. |
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
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Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 9:10 PM on 04.10.09 |
| ->> I don't see anyone who on the list is doing this outside the media. Since the print media is disappearing and on-line version surely to follow unless someone finds a solution soon, where are your teachers that show how this is being used outside this audience? |
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Kevin Johnston, Photographer
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Oden | MI | USA | Posted: 9:57 PM on 04.10.09 |
| ->> Shouldn't this be a classified item? |
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William Robert Sullivan, Photographer, Student/Intern
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St. Louis | MO | | Posted: 10:12 PM on 04.10.09 |
->> Hey Stanley,
I’m not sure if you’re really serious but just in case you are:
The workshop on how to singularly save the entire traditional media business model is next fall. This June, we’re just working on training students audio and video multimedia storytelling skills. In the fall, we’ll save the mainstream media and over the winter we’re taking on Cancer or maybe developing an affordable flying car.
But seriously, I don’t believe we ever claimed that anyone was going to save the mainstream media from our workshop. The students’ skillsets will definitely become much more marketable in and outside of the media for photo/video/audio multimedia work and the quality of their work will drastically improve. They'll definitely leave with more business sense on what their work is worth and how to market it, as well as legally protect it.
Since you brought it up though, if you want to talk business models and what not for distributing/selling/paying for journalism and multimedia content, I’m fairly certain our workshop provides a greater array of perspectives with more experience than any others out there -- we have people from NPR’s reader-supported model, to several freelancers in different mediums who work for clients ranging from commercial corporations to editorial to Fulbright grant recipients, to folks who have experience in traditional print and TV newsrooms (As large as the NY Times and as small as the Roanoke Times), to Peabody-Award winners, Emmy Award Winners, to former PBS Frontline war correspondents, to hybrid media organizations like MSNBC.com, to educators working with students on innovative new ideas, even multi-national media conglomerates like Associated Press will be represented.
… but again, we’re not AT ALL promising that this single workshop will save the mainstream media as we know it. I’m not sure what lead you to that conclusion.
Cheers,
Will |
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Rick Rickman, Photographer
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Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 11:06 PM on 04.10.09 |
->> William:
If I read the material correctly, you guys are editing with avid. Is that right? Was there a particular reason why you chose avid over final cut? |
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William Robert Sullivan, Photo Editor, Photographer
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St. Louis | MO | | Posted: 12:45 AM on 04.11.09 |
| ->> We're training and editing on Final Cut Pro. I'm not sure where you saw Avid, but we're all FCP. |
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
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Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 7:03 AM on 04.11.09 |
->> I was just suggesting having someone on staff who is doing this for commercial purposes. Training folks on how to do multimedia is great. I just think not having 1 person doing this for corporations and showing how you can make a living doing this is short sighted.
Many of the people who will come will be paying their own way. The newspaper industry pretty much no longer supports on going education of their employees. Hard to justify when laying off folks left and right.
So teaching people how to do this and then also how to go about figuring the cost of doing business and usage for this medium would be as valuable as to how to create multimedia in my opinion.
Again, this is where NPPA could help it's members make transitions to paying jobs. |
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William Robert Sullivan, Photo Editor, Photographer
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St. Louis | MO | | Posted: 12:18 PM on 04.11.09 |
->> Hey Stanley,
As I said before, we are discussing the business aspects of multimedia in the workshop and a handful of our speakers also have experience working for corporate clients outside of the media -- Seth Gitner, Jody Sugrue, Mike Schmidt, me, I believe Eric, Pam and Josh have done projects too. Many of our speakers also have experience working with non-profits, NGO's and foundations who need people with multimedia storytelling skills.
The workshop isn't 100 percent focused on business though. We never said it was. It's a technical skill workshop.
There are going to be sessions at the Convergence Visual Journalism Workshops convention (which immediately follow the Multimedia Immersion) discussing business and freelancing -- and some of the experts on those panels are teachers from the Multimedia Immersion. Perhaps you'd be interested in that.
But please stop throwing stones because you've got some axe to grind with the NPPA or whatever it is. |
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
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Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 1:02 PM on 04.11.09 |
->> William:
I am not throwing stones. I have been a member 25+ years, so I don't think I am slamming NPPA. I signed up again this year, unlike many who are dropping their membership.
I would think with less and less folks signing up for seminars this year and more and more having to pay out of pocket, due to loosing their jobs, this was a valid question.
NPPA ongoing education is to help members where they are and many are without work. So, asking if this seminar will discuss business side of multimedia was actually setting you up to hit a home run out of the park.
I was expecting to hear, we are not only helping folks learn about how to produce multimedia, but will also talk about how to price such a new product. This is such a new product--relatively to the industry in this new form, that many folks would like to know what the usage fees for such a product might be these days. Especially since Fotoquote doesn't address this nor does Editorial Photographer.
Are people selling usage for month, quarterly, yearly, etc...
Besides how to make this products and since sometimes the bandwidth for example between the video and still can be drastically different, how does one address this with the audience? How does one market this to corporate, NGOs and such.
Since this wasn't in any of the descriptions for the seminar and you posted it here, I was just asking and asking for clarification.
I am concerned that more than just teaching how to, but also how to earn a living doing this is important and needs to be raised.
Great that you are putting this on. Maybe someone could now be sure to address this. |
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Seth Gitner, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Roanoke | VA | USA | Posted: 6:23 PM on 04.11.09 |
->> Stanley,
The Immersion itself will touch on those issues, but we really want to get people rolling with the concepts and to give people the skill set of telling stories using multimedia.
Immediately following the Immersion -- The NPPA will be having the Visual Journalism Workshops. There is a topic on the agenda that should touch on multimedia business practices.
The NPPA is an organization based on volunteers, without'em we couldn't do anything. If you think you have an expertise in pricing and/or experience in this area feel free to email president@nppa.org who can put you in touch with the Workshops chairman, Joe Mahoney.
We're always looking for people that want to help.
thx,
seth |
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PF Bentley, Photographer
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Planet Earth | HI | USA | Posted: 10:11 PM on 04.13.09 |
| ->> So who are the "retired consultants who make their living off workshops"? I'm just curious. |
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PF Bentley, Photographer
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Planet Earth | HI | USA | Posted: 5:01 PM on 04.14.09 |
->> I'm interested in taking the workshop. Which of the instructors are Apple Certified Professionals in FCP?
Still curious who the "retired consultants who make their living off workshops" are.
Thanks for any information. |
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William Robert Sullivan, Photo Editor, Photographer
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St. Louis | MO | | Posted: 8:38 PM on 04.14.09 |
->> Hey PF,
Bruce Strong is an FCP certified trainer, and I believe Julie is also. We may have a few others in the group, but I haven't reviewed everyone's resumes completely.
There's lots of retired consultants who make lots of money off of workshops like this -- some even charging twice the price. I'm sure we all know a few.
Thanks for your interest.
Cheers,
Will
P.S. I'm not able to frequent these forums this Spring as often as I used to with the requirements of my day job, plus the couple workshops I'm helping organize and speaking at (with Poynter and the NPPA). If anyone has specific questions that needs timely answers, please feel free to directly contact me through my member page. |
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PF Bentley, Photographer
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Planet Earth | HI | USA | Posted: 10:58 PM on 04.14.09 |
->> William:
That's good to hear that you have some Apple Certified Professionals since that's a lot to fit into five days and I was wondering how much in-depth you can do with any working retention after the workshop.
I still don't know any retired consultants making their living from workshops, so if you could enlighten me it would help my knowledge base. Also which workshops are charging twice the price? Are they twice as good or just charging higher for no reason?
Thanks, PF |
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Sam Morris, Photographer
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Henderson (Las Vegas) | NV | USA | Posted: 11:55 AM on 04.15.09 |
| ->> Messrs Sullivan and Bentley, if you are going to have a pissing match about workshops I respectfully ask you to confine it to private email. |
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PF Bentley, Photographer
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Planet Earth | HI | USA | Posted: 2:18 PM on 04.15.09 |
| ->> Hi Sam - I'm just asking some information about the workshop and his original post. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 5:03 PM on 04.15.09 |
| ->> yup, that's what I'm getting from this..... |
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