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Anyone out there care to explain this?
Michael Proebsting, Photographer
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Michael Granse, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 4:14 PM on 04.03.09 |
->> From the auction for the Villanova CD:
" . . . these can be enlarged to 18x24 in most cases . . ."
If this statement is true, then these files are probably every bit of 8x10 at 300dpi, in which case they are absolutely not screen grabs. "Security flaw" indeed! |
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Adrian Gauthier, Photographer
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Mississauga | ON | Canada | Posted: 4:50 PM on 04.03.09 |
| ->> Wouldn't surprise me if this has been done by the CBS Sportsline trick. |
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Andrew Knapik, Photographer, Assistant
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Lincoln Park | MI | USA | Posted: 4:56 PM on 04.03.09 |
| ->> I doubt Getty even knows about this. Looks like by purchasing you are getting the whole lot of what Getty has on file!! Cannot wait to see the outcome of this from an ebay 'powerseller'. |
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Mike Janes, Photographer
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Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 5:39 PM on 04.03.09 |
->> Getty does have some serious security flaws, they've busted a few people already selling passwords illegally taking images, making prints and selling them (signed an unsigned by the players) from what I've heard. I see stolen Getty images when passing the autograph hounds at hockey games, one in particular has STACKS of prints he sells on Ebay after getting them signed - and openly admits he steals them from Getty because "a friend gave him the password".
Report the listing(s) to Ebay, maybe they'll actually pay attention if enough people do - though they are infamous for ignoring reports for as long as they can because they're making money from it, so of course won't jump right on it. |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 6:31 PM on 04.03.09 |
| ->> How do you know these came from Getty? This is bad though. Real bad!! |
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Michael Proebsting, Photographer
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Barrington | IL | USA | Posted: 6:43 PM on 04.03.09 |
->> Real simple. The exact same images are on the Getty web site.
For a company that hands out $1.32 image usage payments to photographers like water, it wouldn't be a surprise that they actually agreed to some sort of "unlimited usage" fee that would allow someone to do this. |
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Michael Granse, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 7:26 PM on 04.03.09 |
| ->> At $1.32 per use, the Ebay guy might make more money from these images than the photographers did. |
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Joshua Brown, Photographer
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Waynesville | NC | USA | Posted: 9:19 PM on 04.03.09 |
| ->> Michael-I wanted to mark your post as funny initially, but then realized that I needed a sad but true button instead. |
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Jon Cunningham, Photographer
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Lisle | IL | USA | Posted: 11:32 PM on 04.03.09 |
->> "Sad but true." There's a lot of that going around lately.
Maybe SportsShooter should add Joshua's classification to the definitions.
I think that it would get clicked a lot. |
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Jesse Beals, Photographer
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Tracyton | WA | USA | Posted: 10:01 PM on 04.04.09 |
->> I brought this up months ago. This seller is selling stolen photos from Getty on EBAY and has been for months / years. When you contact them they say they purchased these photos from respected photographers in the industry.
Ebay will do pretty much nothing on the matter because they make hundreds if not thousands on listing fees and final auction fees from this buyer.
Only way it will stop is if Getty files a complaint otherwise everybody sit back and watch the Getty images sell on ebay like hot cakes. |
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Nick Morris, Photographer
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San Marcos | CA | United States | Posted: 11:51 PM on 04.04.09 |
| ->> Maybe I should start selling my images on e-bay? |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 12:20 AM on 04.05.09 |
->> Al,
Unless you, personally, have images on the site, you have no standing to complain. You can't file a complaint on behalf of somebody else.
--Mark |
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Al Diaz, Photographer
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Miami | Fl | USA | Posted: 12:55 AM on 04.05.09 |
->> Well, OK, I made them aware there may be a problem with this sellers products.
I hope I was not the first. EBay does police itself. |
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Mike Janes, Photographer
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Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 1:03 AM on 04.05.09 |
| ->> Mark - as Al did you can report it to make them aware, they have a program in place for the average user to do this and it does not have to be the copyright owner. They say they'll take a look and judge to remove it or not but routinely ignore it because they're making money off it. The VERO program is for the copyright owners to get it removed immediately. |
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Al Diaz, Photographer
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Miami | Fl | USA | Posted: 11:22 AM on 04.05.09 |
->> Here is ebay's response.
Dear eBay Member,
Thank you for reporting this listing to us.
Despite our efforts to find listings that are in violation of eBay
policy, we don't discover them all right away. That's why we really
appreciate members like you who report listings to us. We investigate
every report we receive.
Due to concerns about privacy we won't be able to discuss the details of
our investigation, but we'll contact you by email if we need additional
information.
For future reference, please use this link to report a listing:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/index_selection.html
This will get your report to the right person in the shortest amount of
time.
Thanks again.
-- Important --
This email address can't receive emails, so please don't reply to this
message.
Sincerely,
eBay Customer Support |
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Al Diaz, Photographer
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Miami | Fl | USA | Posted: 1:30 AM on 04.07.09 |
->> Interesting.
The ebay seller linked at the beginning of this post no longer has any CD's listed of 1000's of photos from NCAA, NFL or NBA games.
Unfortunately I found another seller with similar description.
Over 800 pics from NCAA basketball 2009 championship tournament
The quality of these photographs is simply amazing - they are ALL suitable for making prints in sizes up to 18x24 Inches.
http://cgi.ebay.com/800-PHOTO-CD-2009-NCAA-BIG-EAST-CHAMPIONSHIP-TOURNAMENT... |
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Al Diaz, Photographer
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Miami | Fl | USA | Posted: 2:09 AM on 04.07.09 |
->> Looks like the Ebay seller goaliemon89 has listed every photo in someone's entire sports library on ebay. The seller has 68 listings with thousands of images. I selected one picture featured on a listing. I Dragged it onto my desktop and opened it in photoshop. It's a 16.5M file. The caption reads
NEW YORK - MARCH 12: Paul Harris #11 of the Syracuse Orange drives to the hoop against the Connecticut Huskies during the quarterfinals of the Big East Tournament at Madison Square Garden on March 12, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Jim McIsaac/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Paul Harris
I filed another complaint with Ebay on the possible theft of intellectual property using a fraudulently obtained password from a wire service. |
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Mike Burley, Photographer
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 9:07 AM on 04.07.09 |
->> He's embedding full res images in the auctions themselves - with full Exif.
Artists I've noticed include,
Elsa, Jim McIsaak, Doug Pensinger, Jed Jacobson, Harry How, Streeter Leka, Andy Lyons, Phillip MacCullum, Dave Sanford, Ronald Martinez. |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 9:20 AM on 04.07.09 |
| ->> Ok. I'm lost here? Can Getty be giving this kid access to their files and getting a portion of it's sales or are the individual photographers giving this kid access to their Getty accounts? This is serious if Ebay is allowing this stuff to go on. I wonder what the photographer's are saying if they are just becoming aware of this. That is awesome the other page was shut down. Keep up the GREAT work whom ever made Ebay aware of the other page. |
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 10:28 AM on 04.07.09 |
->> "I Dragged it onto my desktop and opened it in photoshop. It's a 16.5M file. The caption reads
NEW YORK - MARCH 12: Paul Harris #11 of the Syracuse Orange drives to the hoop against the ..."
Too funny. You don't even have to buy the pic from the seller you can just right click and save it to make prints from your favorite NCAA/Pro athlete or game.
PRICELESS.....LOL
Instead of contacting eBay, forward the information to Getty Images' legal department as well as the photographers whose work is being displayed. Getty's legal folks will certainly love to have the work and Getty the revenue from the infringement. |
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Al Diaz, Photographer
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Miami | Fl | USA | Posted: 2:53 PM on 04.07.09 |
->> Interesting,
The eBay seller goaliemon89 no longer has any CD's of photos up for sale.
There were 68 listings this morning representing thousands of images.
This is serious stuff, it's a breach of integrity in our profession and the value of the images we produce. From my random sampling it appears most of the images were Getty images. I don't work for Getty but many of you do, it's really not my place to be making these complaints to eBay. It got me upset to see all this and I know if there were a CD of my careers work being sold on eBay for five bucks I would be angry as heck. Please feel free to make any other similar complaints to eBay, apparently it works. If you work for Getty, contact your legal deapartment. |
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Mike Janes, Photographer
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Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 3:04 PM on 04.07.09 |
| ->> Hopefully Ebay or Getty took action, I sent a report like you did and received the same response since it's automated. Also sent the link to Getty so they'd be aware as well. My images or not I'd report them if I know they are stolen because you never know when your images are next, and hopefully someone else would do the same. I've had images on there stolen, prints but still. |
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 5:22 PM on 04.08.09 |
->> Please don't flame me for asking a really stupid question, but what keywords and category do you use to search for photos on Ebay?
I don't seem to have good luck looking for photos there.
Jody |
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