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Susánica Tam, Photographer
Thousand Oaks | CA | United States | Posted: 2:33 AM on 04.01.09
->> For those of you who are on twitter, feel free to check out what we're doing at the Sportsshooter Academy here:

http://twitter.com/SSAVI

If you're not on twitter, you can either ignore this message, or choose join the rest of the up-to-date shooters on the wonderfully addictive network.

I hope I am not opening a can of worms with that comment.
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Andrew Villa, Student/Intern, Assistant
San Jose | CA | United States | Posted: 3:24 AM on 04.01.09
->> Susanica,
I'm following you now! Should be fun for all of next week too.
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Peter Wine, Photographer, Photo Editor
Dayton | OH | USA | Posted: 3:14 PM on 04.03.09
->> It's ok.

The can of worms would be consumed by the happy Twitter.

One of the funny things of having a name like mine (Wine) is that I have followers pop up from time to time because they do a search for anything with Wine in it.

I've had 50 or 60 sign up, but am now down to 30 or so on a regular basis.

I know about 5 are from the area.
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 3:37 PM on 04.03.09
->> Am I the only one who thinks people who Twitter should be known as Twits?

I have nothing personal against Susanica, Andrew and Peter. I just find the whole concept annoying.
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 3:44 PM on 04.03.09
->> Well, golly, Jeff. Just out of curiosity, What annoys you about it? You seem to have a pretty strong opinion.

Steve
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Michael Chansley, Photographer, Assistant
Tucson | AZ | USA | Posted: 4:09 PM on 04.03.09
->> I'm with Jeff. You can update people what you are doing on Myspace and Facebook. I have no idea why it's so popular.

Here is a video I found about Twitter and posted on my blog:
http://michaelchansley.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-twitter.html
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Susánica Tam, Photographer
Thousand Oaks | CA | United States | Posted: 7:51 PM on 04.03.09
->> technically speaking,

Twitter is a "microblog," while facebook and Myspace are social networking services that are more involved. Also, imho, if anyone has been blighted by yellow blinking text on tiled background, self-designed MySpace pages, I feel that MySpace is for the visually challenged.

I use Twitter to keep in touch with PEs, clients, friends, and...Lance Armstrong. I get photo requests, info and informal queries as soon as they surface. I know where fellow shooters/professional acquaintences are and what airports they are landing in, and you can bet I'm not going to sign into facebook and be stalked by my high school friends and that Random Guy.

Twitter started out as a cult hobby in the computer/software programming industry, for ways to share code and tidbits without actually contacting people by phone or e-mail (imagine that).

For those of you who are unfamiliar with it, check out these fun little stories:

How I met Shaq:
http://www.urlesque.com/2009/02/20/the-real-shaq-connects-with-everyone-in-.../

http://sesquipedalis.blogspot.com/2009/02/finally-use-for-twitter.html

Recently it's exploded to celebrity obsession status, with many users using it to blog about their mundane, day-to-day experiences and offer a human, "everyman" aspect to their lives. Also, with the advent of iPhones and blackberries, programs such as "twitter berry," "twitter fon" "tweetie" etc, allow the user to be connected to each other and updated with just a touch of a cell phone button.

For sportsshooter academy, it's a great way to keep updated on last minute changes and info!

Hope this helps! Cheers. That being said, please don't stalk me.

;)
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David Harpe, Photographer
Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 11:03 PM on 04.03.09
->> Twitter: It's like pocket lint for your mind. :-)
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 11:32 PM on 04.03.09
->> Actually, with a little bit of thought, Twitter can be engineered as a useful social media tool to aid following your interests and connecting to an ever changing marketplace.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 12:04 AM on 04.04.09
->> This has been a great way for us to get information out to SSA VI participants ...

And we have MORE people signed up for the twitter feed than we have attending the workshop!

(We just announced what cameras Nikon will be bringing to SSA VI to loan...)
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Myung Chun, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 1:44 AM on 04.04.09
->> Thanks for all of your help Susánica. Your hard work and dedication is duly noted by all of us involved in SSA VI.
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Susánica Tam, Photographer
Thousand Oaks | CA | United States | Posted: 3:01 PM on 04.04.09
->> I don't work harder than any other staff member!
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Jon Wright, Photographer
Wayzata | MN | USA | Posted: 5:10 PM on 04.04.09
->> Our business network group (BNI) uses Twitter to quickly and efficiently stay in touch between weekly meetings. Facebook is more for a broader group, like friends and relatives. It is becoming a big asset to our group.
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 8:39 AM on 04.06.09
->> Since Steve asked ...

My annoyance with Twitter comes from several sources:

1.) Do so many of us really have nothing better to do with our time than share random, rambling thoughts with others? I can list more than a hundred better uses of my time. I know there are some useful applications, such as what Robert described above, but most people just use it for electronic doodling. I'm not so self-absorbed as to think everything that caroms through my head is profound and needs to be shared.

2.) On the receiving end, do you really have such a stark existence (or, worse, prurient curiosity about someone else) that you WANT to read the ramblings of others? You can't find anything else more entertaining?

3.) Unlike many people I know, I also finding texting to be annoying. Either call me or send me an e-mail. Even better, take the time to write an actual letter -- a rare gift from a loved one that can be treasured over time.

4.) Just because technology allows you to do something doesn't mean it's a good idea. I love desktop publishing but it made a whole lot of people think they are page designers when they're not, and it turned a lot of good editors into glorified digital compositors who didn't have time to edit and teach their reporters anymore because they were too busy laying out pages.

IMO, Twitter is yet another sign that we have way too many toys and not enough to occupy our heads.
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Colin Lenton, Photographer
Philadelphia | PA | United States | Posted: 9:37 AM on 04.06.09
->> Jeff -
Twitter isn't for you, so don't do it. Why take your precious time to complain about it?
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 10:10 AM on 04.06.09
->> Because Steve asked.
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Colin Lenton, Photographer
Philadelphia | PA | United States | Posted: 10:31 AM on 04.06.09
->> Nobody asked you to call all of the sportsshooter twitter users (and all twitter users at large) twits. 4th post from the top.
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 3:50 PM on 04.06.09
->> As I said, I have nothing personal against the users. It's the concept I find annoying. But if you're determined to be offended, I'll apologize.
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Steve Boyle, Photographer
Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 3:52 PM on 04.06.09
->> read this

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/magazine/15-07/st_thompson
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Joshua Brown, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 5:02 PM on 04.06.09
->> http://www.commoncraft.com/Twitter
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Gabriel Gonzalez, Photographer, Student/Intern
Caguas | PR | | Posted: 5:17 PM on 04.06.09
->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeLZCy-_m3s

To me, twitter has been a great tool for meeting great photographers from the states. One of those I met had a shoot very close to where I lived, and we were able to meet, something that would have never happened if it wasn't for the twitter network.

To the ones going to SSA, have a great time! I was part of SSA III and would love to be part of another SSA sometime in the future.
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 6:49 PM on 04.06.09
->> One of the draw backs with a message board is that a reader cannot hear the intonation of the spoken word. Whether the writer intends criticism or humor or any other emotion. I did not intend any criticism of Jeff and I don't believe he took any. My question to Jeff was intended to draw him out because he did express a strong negative emotion about the twitter service. His response was detailed in his, very succinct, 4 point response.
The whole exchange did make for some interesting responses, mostly positive, from members who use Twitter on a daily basis. I've been looking into using Twitter, but frankly, I'm not sure how I would use it or why. Perhaps my circle of friends is small enough and close by that I don't need to update them on when or where I'm having my next cup of coffee. That doesn't take anything away from those who find it a useful tool. Overall, I believe I'm going to have to ask my doctor if Twitter is right for me.

Steve
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Jean Finley, Photo Editor, Photographer
Iowa City | IA | USA | Posted: 12:06 AM on 04.07.09
->> Jeff - It appears your twitter issues make a lot of assumptions about it's users. Twitter is like email, or message boards, or websites for that matter - they can be used for work or play, business or social interaction, imporant or trivial information.
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 11:22 AM on 04.28.09
->> I just (finally) started up a Twitter account - but when I first heard of the concept, I thought it was silly, like Jeff.

But then we set up a Twitter account for PhotoShelter and people immediately started signing up. When we spotted something cool, or fun, or had news to share, we would put it on Twitter for those who were subscribed to our feed, and then many of them would spread it to their own networks, and within a few hours our messages were going out to 30,000+ people.

In terms of marketing and promotion, getting the attention of that many people is incredibly powerful.

I no longer look at this as a place to put some self-centered ramblings from my personal life, but a place to share items of real interest among like-minded people.

I won't tell anyone when I brushed my teeth, or describe the cool new shoes I just bought, or how I lucked out and got the last oven-roasted chicken at Safeway.

But when I see a photographer doing something noteworthy (shooting, marketing, business, creativity, originality), I am definitely going to pass it on.

http://twitter.com/heygrover
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Denny Medley, Photographer, Photo Editor
Kansas City | MO | USA | Posted: 12:21 PM on 04.28.09
->> Grover,
AMEN. That's pretty much the way I use Twitter. Not the everyday, boring stuff I do, but I use it mostly for business and marketing, and keeping the name out there. Like any of these tools, Twitter, Facebook, MySpace (which I rarely use, but have a presence) can be a HUGE time-suck if you allow them to. As can this message board. But it's all in how you choose to use them.

I follow Photoshelter, (and now you), and several others that are in the business, or I find interesting,or potentially profitable, etc. Many members of this group, as well as my BNI chapter and our local KC Freelance Exchange group are Tweeters. And when I choose, my Tweets can also update my FaceBook profile as well.

TweetOn!

http://twitter.com/randomphoto
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
Live HVN : Work SFO-NYC | | | Posted: 12:37 PM on 04.28.09
->> Jeff,

I was initially irritated by Twitter for a long time, until I decided to see what it offered. My Twitter feed is 99% business related and in the past few weeks I of tweaking how I use Twitter have has been exceptional in expanding my professional networking, getting me a client and attracting the attention of those I want to get in front of (it is not photography based at all, it is strictly travel related, with info that is also relevant to photogs who travel).

So while I used to not get it, and you may not get it, it is a completely interactive way to potentially find clients and revenue streams. A week ago I wrote about airlines that Twitter on Flying With Fish, within 3 days three major airlines started using Twitter with 4 accounts, all of whom where directly influenced by my comments on Twitter and on my Blog about how airlines can use Twitter to generate loyal flyers.

If used properly Twitter is an interesting to tool to explore and exploit.

http://www.twitter.com/flyingwithfish
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