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Transfering from old to new MAC
Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 11:53 PM on 03.16.09 |
->> hi all
I asked this at the end of January when we got the new MAC Intel and wanted to transfer everything over from our G5.
Since then, the Intel Mac crashed and we just got it back. I want to transfer just the following and was wondering how to do it:
Photoshop CS
Photoshop CS3
Bridge GS3
Dreamweaver CS3
Photo Mechanic (I have an older version I still use, version 4.3.8)
Word
Transmit
Fetch
The last time we transferred everything over and it took all night (and there wasn't much on the computer) so this time I just want to trasfer the above programs.
Any help/guidance is appreciated. |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 12:23 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner?
Makes life easy when reinstalling a backup. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 12:26 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Robert,
never heard of that...I haven't used anything yet because I am unsure what to do. The last time I hooked up a firewire cable to both machines and started up and transfered that way, but this time I only want to transfer the above as opposed to everything |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 12:32 AM on 03.17.09 |
| ->> What about Time Machine? |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 12:37 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> I am a total CLUELESS person when it comes to doing this
can someone please explain how it is to be done?
Time machine and carbon copy cloner are words to me all-unfamilar terrority
when I transferred over the last time, (before the new one crashed) I hooked up a firewire to both machines and went from there, and it took all night to transfer.
Do I do the same thing or are there other steps to take? |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 12:48 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Time Machine is located in your Applications menu at the bottom, but you would need an external drive to back up your files. I would highly suggest that you do that (back up your computer). I was told a very-very long time ago by a close friend that there were three things you need to do when dealing with computers and potential crashes or lost files. Those three things are as follows:
1. Back the _______ up.
2. Back the _______ up.
And the main thing you should always do is:
3. Back the _______ up.
Go to http://www.apple.com/support/leopard/timemachine/ and read about it there.
Please remember those three things and I hope the link to Time Machine helps.
Take care.... |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 12:53 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> ok--I back up EVERYTHING..I have external drives and everything is transferred immediately.
once again--I have the G5 that I want to transfer programs from to the brand new Intel Mac.
How is is done?
Am I not asking the correct question here?
When the brand new Intel Mac crashed--I lost nothing because, I do backup |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 1:00 AM on 03.17.09 |
| ->> I think I read that you can use the backed up info from one machine to another using Time Machine, but I may be wrong. I'm looking at the link right now to see if that's possible. Sorry for not being clear, but it's freak'n 1 in the morning here on the East Coast and I just got in the house. LOL |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 1:11 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> the old machine doesn't have Time Machine (it is a G5) and that is where the programs I want to transfer are located. So, then isn't Time Machine not what I want?
Again-I have programs on the G5 (and I am not sure where the CDS are) that I want to transfer to the new Intel Mac |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 1:17 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Yes, you are asking the correct question ...
But backing up a drive is one thing ... it's another moving the data back to the original computer. It can be very tricky.
Programs/applications are not just a single file. There are several files for Photoshop for example that are not in the applications folder.
Some programs like Office can reinstall automatically if certain pieces are missing.
Are you just moving apps and files? Or are you copying the entire system as well?
If you're just moving the applications to the new computer and not the system, then it's best to reinstall from the disks. You're assured of everything being installed and in the correct place.
Carbon Copy Cloner:
http://www.bombich.com/software/index.html |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 1:18 AM on 03.17.09 |
| ->> Carbon Copy Cloner is a good thing to have ... and use. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 1:20 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> ok-it must be late or I am not writing English or articulating what I need
right now--I do not need to backup
I do not need to clone
I do not need to know how to backup
I have my old G5 desktop that has Photoshop CS, CS3, Dreamweaver, Bridge, Word, Photo Mechanic, Transmit and Fetch and a Word program. I can't find the CDs for any of these
I have a brand new Mac Intel
I want to transfer these programs from the old computer to the new computer
The last time I hooked up a firewire cable from the old to the new, held down the "T" key on the older machine and the HD showed up on the new computer. I then transferred over EVERYTHING-this time I do not want to transfer everything-just what I listed above.
How should this be done? |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 1:23 AM on 03.17.09 |
| ->> Ok, never mind! |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 1:27 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Robert,
I was typing my message the same time you were typing yours
If I don't have the original CDs, is there a way to transfer these programs over to the new machine without transferring everything over?
could the transfer the last time have had anything to do with the new harddrive crashing so soon? |
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Tuomo Tenhunen, Photographer
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Lohja | - | Finland | Posted: 1:32 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> How about Migration Assistant?
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1554
http://www.apple.com/pro/tips/migration.html
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In the past, if you bought a new Mac, moving all your files, music, photos, and well...everything from your old Mac to your new Mac was quite a production, and I saw it reduce many an NFL lineman to tears.
Well, in Tiger, that’s all a thing of the past. Now, when it’s time to make the “big move,” just connect the two Macs with a FireWire cable, then go to your new Mac and look inside the Applications folder, then go to the Utilities folder, where you’ll find an application called Migration Assistant.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 1:39 AM on 03.17.09 |
| ->> There ya go! |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
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Galveston / Houston | TX | US | Posted: 1:41 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Debra, you'll need to use Migration Assistant just like you did before, however this time select the option to transfer just the Applications and not all the other data. (I haven't had to do this in a while so I can't give you a step-by-step.)
However that said, if you can at all avoid it I would. Back when the Intel machines first came out there were numerous reported problems when users transferred data from their PowerPC machines to their Intel ones like you are attempting to do. Here is an old link but relevant for your position:
A Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1872713�
Also don't forget about deactivating the Adobe apps on the G5 machine before trying to activate them on the new machine. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 1:46 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Kevin,
does this mean I won't be able to use these Adobe applications on the G5 if I transfer them over to the Intel? (when you said to deactivate the Adobe apps)
The hardrive on the Intel crashed one month after buying it-could this have had anything to do with the transfer? the tech person said he didn;t think so but...I am very nervous about this. I can't find the CDs anywhere and don't want/have the time to go buy everything right now |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 1:47 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> "A Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs
If you are migrating a PowerPC system (G3, G4, or G5) to an Intel-Mac be careful what you migrate. Keep in mind that some items that may get transferred will not work on Intel machines and may end up causing your computer's operating system to malfunction. "
uh oh |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
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Galveston / Houston | TX | US | Posted: 2:02 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> No I don't think the transfer had anything to do with the hard drive crash, assuming it was an actual physical crash (the Intel has a brand new HD in it now) versus a corrupted OS (same HD with the OS reinstalled).
I don't have the Adobe EULA in front of me but most programs are only allowed to be installed on one machine at a time. (Photo Mechanic is a notable exception allowing ie: a desktop and laptop as long as they are only for a single person and not in use at the same time.)
I personally have never experienced this Activation issue because I don't own Photoshop (I only use it on newspaper computers) but here are some recent posts discussing it:
http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/2009-03-blog.html#_20090312AdobeActivation
http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/2009-03-blog.html#_20090314AdobeLicensing
I've made two PPC to Intel transitions, a PowerBook G4 to MacBook Pro and a PowerMac G4 to Mac Pro. Both times I purposely avoided using Migration assistant because of the issues I was reading about at the time. Instead I just reinstalled programs and copied user data manually.
Sorry this isn't the easy answer you're looking for. If you are in a big rush I'd go ahead and use Migration Assistant to move the programs. Who knows, maybe Apple has improved the program in the past two years and sorted out the early issues.
Worst-case scenario, the OS gets corrupted, you'll have to simply use your Restore DVD to wipe the hard drive, reinstall the OS and start over with transferring things. Since you seem to be on top of backups you wouldn't even lose any data. |
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Kevin Clifford, Photographer
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Reno | NV | United States | Posted: 2:53 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> If your computers are networked together or use the same internet connection, then you need two serials for most programs, like Office and Adobe because they are for single use only and will not allow the second computer to use them unless the first computer shuts the application. So only one computer at a time can use the software.
As for the migration, I would vote for reinstalling with the disks. Perhaps another photographer or someone at the local college can loan you the disks to install the software. If time is a factor, I would just download the trial versions until you can get the disks. However, there doesn't appear to be a Office trial download on-line anymore for MAC which is weird. But instead of office you could install openoffice, which opens and saves all Office product files: http://download.openoffice.org/ I use this because it's free and it can open almost any word processing documents people give me. Also, there is no longer a trial version of CS3, so you would have to go for CS4. You can always uninstall later. |
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
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Houston | TX | | Posted: 11:50 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Debra--
Some software suites come with multiple licenses in their packaging, such is the case for PS CS3 and Final Cut Express.
Thus you can migrate the software to the new machine and still keep it active in the old one, if you desire.
If you are discarding the old machine, you must first manually deactivate the different software packages and other applications such as Itunes.
But you will need the original package with the license to enable the software in the additional computer. Otherwise, you may be able to transfer, but not use, the software in the new computer.
--Steve |
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Rich Cruse, Photographer
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Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 1:47 PM on 03.17.09 |
| ->> Reinstall apps and use Migration Assistant to bring over your files. Adobe allows you to install PhotoShop on two computers like your notebook and your desktop and Yes you need to deactivate on your old computer. You do not want to drag over your old previous PhotoShop installation. Install fresh. Trust me on this one. |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 9:57 PM on 03.17.09 |
->> Debra, you (and others) might benefit from Apple's One to One service:
http://www.apple.com/retail/onetoone/
At $99, it's really a great investment
dbr |
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David Ahntholz, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cleveland | OH | USA | Posted: 9:58 PM on 03.17.09 |
->> I wouldn't use the migration assistant to transfer programs from a G5 to an Intel-based Mac. I think you're asking for problems.
For most (if not all) of the products you listed, including the Adobe products, you should be able to download installers from the Web. Adobe's trial version/installer works the same as the one on the CD, and should allow you to enter your license code. You could call Adobe to make sure. I would deactivate the version on your G5, especially if you aren't using it ... and you probably lost one activation with the crash of your Intel.
Extra hard drives are cheap. In the future, setting up a time machine drive and/or using a program like carbon copy cloner or super duper (programs that clones your hard drive) will give you a much easier way to restore your hard drive. This is different than just archiving your files (also important to do). Cloning your drive will give you a bootable backup which would allow you to deactivate the Adobe products and not lose any of your programs.
Good luck. |
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Samuel Lewis, Photographer
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Miami | FL | USA | Posted: 12:52 AM on 03.18.09 |
->> I transferred from my Powerbook G4 to a Macbook Pro using the migration assistant (during the initial startup) and a firewire cable. The only problem was that Photoshop CS2 didn't copy properly, and I had to reinstall it on the new system.
I just upgraded from Macbook Pro to Macbook Pro, and CS3 transferred without a problem (as did just about everything else). |
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Nicholas Von Staden, Photographer
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Pompano Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 12:08 AM on 03.19.09 |
| ->> I have used migration assistant. a couple of times G3 to macbook..G4 to IMac intel......worked great...you need to go to Apple site and type in migration assistant ...there will be most of the answers to all of your questions. |
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John Middlebrook, Photographer
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Basel | CH | Switzerland | Posted: 12:28 PM on 03.19.09 |
| ->> I just bought a new MacBook after having to turn over my old one to the company that laid me off and the move was amazing. I tried to use my Time Machine but that did not work so I used the copy feature and copied everything from the old to the new and it all worked perfectly. Photoshop, Lightrooom and even old access codes to routers of my neighbors worked after the move, amazing. |
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