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1D is in
Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 1:37 AM on 03.13.09 |
| ->> The 1D will be accepted for CPS membership. Details tomorrow when I get back. |
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Jay Adeff, Photographer
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Salinas | CA | USA | Posted: 1:41 AM on 03.13.09 |
| ->> If true, this is great news for me since the 1D is my second/back-up camera to my MkII. |
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Carl Auer, Photographer
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Eagle River | AK | USA | Posted: 1:56 AM on 03.13.09 |
| ->> does not come up as a camera. I gets put into the lens category and does not count as a body. |
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 3:25 PM on 03.13.09 |
| ->> i'm in the same boat as jay. this would be awesome. |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 4:48 PM on 03.13.09 |
->> Ok, this is the e-mail I received late last night from the regional Canon rep. regarding the 1D.
Hey there Steve,
Thanks for being a bit patient. The good news is that they are allowing the EOS 1D.
*Additionally, based on customer feedback, the original EOS-1D has been added to the qualifying equipment list.
So you should be all set. Thanks for your support over the years, and glad to hear that your 1D is still ticking..
So you know, I did forward your message to the powers, and you and others helped them understand the concern.
Thanks,
Mike
Michael D. Gurley
Canon USA, Inc.
Professional Products Marketing Division |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 6:34 PM on 03.13.09 |
->> Here's the deal at the moment:
The main CPS page still does not list the 1D.
However, when I went through the registration process, the 1D was in the list of cameras, so I entered it in with serial number and all, along with the rest of my gear.
Upon hitting "next", however, I received a "membership disqualified" page, stating that I had insufficient gear.
Hmmmm... |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 7:33 PM on 03.13.09 |
->> I feel your pain, Kevin.
I'm not going to make CPS membership my life's work but the rep is looking into it. Obviously, Canon has some work to do to make this a seamless procedure.
Steve |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 8:48 PM on 03.13.09 |
| ->> Steve - I appreciate you posting this news in the first place. I had given up on CPS altogether when the new plan was announced, and I would not have given it a second glance had I not seen this post. I (and others, I'm sure) appreciate you sharing this information with us! |
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Michael Granse, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 10:28 PM on 03.13.09 |
->> I will have to find a new service provider for some of my lenses that are no longer considered "professional."
EF 17-35mm f2.8 L
EF 28-70mm f2.8 L
EF 300mm f2.8 L
I am not going to get rid of these lenses though. They are paid for and, oddly enough, they work amazingly well when you consider that they have been relegated to amateur status.
As I shuffle down the sidewalk in my pajamas and bathrobe looking for a new service center for my aging L series lenses, I envision myself mumbling the following:
"I don't need any of it, none of it at all . . . except for my Canon hat . . . that's all I need . . . just my Canon hat, and my, my red Canon monopod pad . . . just my hat and my monopod pad and that is all I need and I don't need anything else . . ." |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 12:13 PM on 03.14.09 |
->> Here is the latest from Mike Gurley:
Hi Steve,
I got this email information about a half hour after I got your information.
Please see these below changes to the CPS membership application available
now:
Items added to equipment eligibility list for CPS membership qualification:
EOS-1D
EF 85 1.2 L USM
EF 28-70 2.8 L USM
EF 35-350 3.5-5.6 L USM
EF 70-200 4.0 L USM
Items that can now be added to a member's profile to qualify for CPS
service support:
Life-Size Converter EF
Extender EF 1.4x II
Extender EF 2x II
My guess is that the site was not fully enabled with the items listed above, so that you may have gotten kicked from the site.
Try again, and check to see if all the items are on the list.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Mike
Michael Gurley
Canon USA
mgurley@cusa.canon.com (work) |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:36 PM on 03.14.09 |
| ->> I'm trying to understand how ANY 300 2.8 would in any way, sense, or form be considered an amateur lens.... |
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Russell Rinn, Photographer
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Georgetown | Tx | USA | Posted: 1:20 PM on 03.14.09 |
->> I agree with Chuck (did I actually say that??).
However, Canon is not calling the 300 2.8 non-is (which I use as well) a non-professional lens directly. Since they do not service it they don't have it on the list of qualifying items.
I suppose they could come out with a list of 'professional lenses', but then that would create an equal mess. I use my 85/1.8 all the time, but is that a 'professional lens'? Apparently the first criteria for inclusion on the list is if they service it. Though it does look like they are making amends for previous transgressions by adding the 1D back in along with some slighted older L glass. Maybe the 300 will be added back eventually.
To me the biggest issue is that they are not requiring tear sheets or letters from employers or editors. Requiring that you make the majority of your income from photography is unenforceable. |
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Chris Clark, Photographer
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Galion | OH | USA | Posted: 1:35 PM on 03.14.09 |
->> I also agree with Chuck.
my 500mm 4.5? Not professional? Uh, yeah, okay...... |
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Rick Rowell, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Vista | CA | USA | Posted: 2:58 PM on 03.14.09 |
| ->> Am I reading this correctly? The 70-200 f4.0 L non IS is a professional lens and the 70-200 f2.8 L non IS is not? If given the choice of shooting either of these lenses in low light, which would you choose? DUH! I'm one who believes it isn't the equipment you use that makes you a professional. Their are many more important qualities that go into being a pro. Knowing this, why doesn't Canon just let those who are already members in good standing remain so and just put out a list of equipment that will no longer be serviced by them. All new members who make their sole living and can prove it will be able to become members regardless of what equipment they use as long as it's Canon. I don't think their are very many pro's who use Rebel body's and the lower end of the lens line to make their living. |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 3:10 PM on 03.14.09 |
| ->> I must say that this all making me have second thoughts about Canon. |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 3:42 PM on 03.14.09 |
->> Rick:
I agree with you and I would suggest that you forward your message to the Canon rep in your area. They have a vested interest in keeping us happy and continuing to use Canon equipment.
Steve |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 3:52 PM on 03.14.09 |
| ->> Whoops, forgot to ad: despite what Michael indicates in his last email that Steve shared with us, I'm still being denied membership with a page saying I haven't registered enough equipment. I've sent an email to him myself now asking for help - I'll post any relevant updates as I get them. |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 5:52 PM on 03.14.09 |
->> Steven,
Excellent news. Whoever is able to register their 1D, please let the rest o us know.
From one professional to another...Thanks |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 6:41 PM on 03.14.09 |
->> Stew:
It is still an ongoing process. The rep here in WA. copied me with an e-mail he sent to CPS. This being Saturday we will have to wait and see what Monday brings.
Steve
I have a niece living in Harmony, RI. Is that close to you? |
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Nell Redmond, Photographer
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Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 6:51 PM on 03.14.09 |
| ->> i was able to list my 1D, though it was under the lens category, not the camera category. |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 9:55 PM on 03.14.09 |
->> I wonder how many people emailed or called Canon CPS to ask about the inclusion of the 1D ? Anyway, I'm glad Canon has changed the qualifications. I don't mind that they don't repair some of the older gear now. That only makes sense, as they run out of parts.
P.S.
EVERYTHING is close in RI. The state is on 30 x 40 miles. |
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Rick Rowell, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Vista | CA | USA | Posted: 10:15 PM on 03.14.09 |
| ->> OOOPS! Kevin your right, I missed that one. Still I would not consider the f4.0 70-200 zoom as professional grade. Just my opinion. |
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John OHara, Photographer
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Petaluma | Ca | United States | Posted: 10:55 PM on 03.14.09 |
| ->> This is good news. until they make a CCD chip MK XXIV or what ever, I'm fixed on the the ID because of the flash sync. Great News. |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 10:57 PM on 03.14.09 |
| ->> I just checked the CPS website. It states that the EOS-1D qualifies as professional camera. |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 11:36 PM on 03.14.09 |
->> Michael forwarded my email on to CPS, and noted in his letter to them that I'm not the only one having problems registering.
For the record, I'm not having a problem registering the equipment itself. The 1D shows up in the drop-down menu on the gear page, and I can enter in the serial number and add it to my list. However, once I've put all of my gear in and hit "next", I get a page with this message:
"Disqualified for CPS membership
You do not have enough products registered to apply for CPS membership. However, you can still continue to update your product details once you have enough products to register."
So despite the fact that I have the required products registered, their system isn't seeing that as being the case. Hopefully it'll get straightened out early next week when the CPS crew returns to work. |
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 3:04 AM on 03.17.09 |
->> Kevin, i too have been receiving that message. I have 2 bodies (including the 1D) and 3x lenses.
i hope this gets resolved soon. |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 7:42 AM on 03.18.09 |
->> Looks like we're going backwards now...
I just checked my membership page again, and the 1D has actually been taken off of the drop down menu of cameras that can be registered. The one I had already registered is now listed as "other" on my equipment profile. The body is also off of the list on the main page that outlines the required equipment, which I thought had been updated over the weekend.
I sure hope this doesn't mean they're actually going back and keeping the 1D off of the list. I'm still waiting to hear back from CPS customer service about this, and as always, I'll post if I hear anything relevant. |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 2:59 PM on 03.18.09 |
->> All very annoying. I guess I saw something like this in another post, but for example...
If you owned two 30d's, one of which could be in pieces from being run over by a truck you would qualify, but if you owned only 1DSMkIII you would not. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 3:57 PM on 03.18.09 |
| ->> Should make for a robust market in broken 30D's. |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 10:49 PM on 03.19.09 |
->> Update from CPS this afternoon:
"Although subject to change, it is our understanding that additional models will be added as eligible models under the CPS program. We are anticipating the updates to be made by the end of the month. While I cannot confirm any specific models, please check our CPS site often for updates, as it is possible your camera model will be added once the updates take place." |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
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Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 3:38 PM on 03.30.09 |
| ->> For those still waiting on this, I was just entering equipment onto my profile and noticed the 1D is back on the list under cameras. |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer, Assistant
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 3:53 PM on 03.30.09 |
->> Kevin,
Thanks for keeping an eye on the site. I checked back, and my 1D was moved from "other" to "cameras". When I went to submit my gear list...it finally went through! Finally, I'm back in CPS. |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
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Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 4:27 PM on 03.30.09 |
| ->> Good to hear, I'm glad Canon listened to those who petitioned to get the 1D accepted. |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 4:51 PM on 03.30.09 |
| ->> It looks like Canon is paying attention, they have also added the 1V to the list of bodies. |
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