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Obama Poster Mystery: Solved
Corey Perrine, Photographer
Hudson | NH | USA | Posted: 11:13 PM on 01.20.09
->> A good read on the photo behind the iconic graphic design work from Shepard Fairey. I just wonder how Jonathan Daniel of Getty Images feels?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-19/who-took-the-pres.../
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
Hudson | NH | USA | Posted: 11:16 PM on 01.20.09
->> Oops I meant Jim Young.
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Rich Cruse, Photographer
Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 11:48 PM on 01.20.09
->> I believe the work is derivative and at minimum the photographer should receive credit. Without the photo, the artwork might not have been created and/or had the impact that it did. We all know that if a client gives us a photo and asks us to re-create the effect or to duplicate the image, that it is derivative and is likely to be copyright infringement.

There is a blog I found discussing this.
http://tinyurl.com/a4yxfa
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 11:49 PM on 01.20.09
->> The comments are more interesting than the story, such as this pearl:

"It's a photo. Reuters photographers take thousands, if not millions of photos per year. Why is everyone going bonkers about copyright? ...."
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Nic Coury, Photographer
Monterey | CA | | Posted: 11:55 PM on 01.20.09
->> Steve,

That guy is full of gold:

"He was in a public place. Any photographer could have taken it - including Joe Public."


He's mixing privacy law with fair use. Ha, that's a neat trick!
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Rich Cruse, Photographer
Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 12:00 AM on 01.21.09
->> I had an image of mine scanned from a magazine and used as a graphic on a marathon's t-shirt. The athlete was a professional and was very upset to see his likeness used on the t-shirt without his permission and/or compensation.

If I recall the athlete "lawyered up" and got some serious compensation. I sometimes wonder if schools teach graphic artists about copyrights and how complicated things can get if you "borrow" images from sources like magazines for commercial projects.

The reality is that if the artist had contacted me, I would have contacted the model. He would have found out he could not use the image and would have to look elsewhere. There was no excuse because the magazine had my contact information and of course I had the model's info as well. I only had editorial rights for the image, so the model would have had to approve the use of the image and been compensated.
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 12:09 AM on 01.21.09
->> This guy does nothing original it seems...

http://www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htm
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Rich Cruse, Photographer
Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 12:14 AM on 01.21.09
->> Wow Mike. It reminds me of the little dog pulling back the curtain in the Wizard of Oz.
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Tom Knier, Photographer
Lancaster | PA | USA | Posted: 12:45 AM on 01.21.09
->> Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Bruce Twitchell, Photographer
Coeur d'Alene | ID | USA | Posted: 1:09 AM on 01.21.09
->> Reminds me of Richard Prince-

http://nymag.com/nymetro/arts/art/11815/

“Appropriation art” is what they call it.

I guess appropriation is the new 'nice' way of saying stealing.
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Nic Coury, Photographer
Monterey | CA | | Posted: 1:13 AM on 01.21.09
->> Graphic designers may not learn copyright, but Media Law Jour310 was a required class (and one of my favorites) in my journalism program.

Cohen vs. CA. wowsers...
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 1:14 AM on 01.21.09
->> Second paragraph screams irony...

http://nyc.indymedia.org/or/2008/06/97988.html

...might as well say "I hate when people steal what I stole!"
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Dave Sizer, Photographer
Mountlake Terrace | WA | USA | Posted: 1:16 AM on 01.21.09
->> Here, you can make your own. http://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/
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Karsten Moran, Photographer, Photo Editor
New York | NY | United States of America | Posted: 7:30 AM on 01.21.09
->> Reuters also posted in their blog on Jan 15.
http://blogs.reuters.com/photo/2009/01/15/iconic-obama-poster-based-on-reut.../
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Mark Peters, Photographer
Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 7:51 AM on 01.21.09
->> Pot, meet kettle.....

"I didn’t build up the resonance for that image just to hand it off to someone to exploit.”



I also found this one interesting (and quite informative for those who have had their images used.....) "When confronted, Fairey was quick to cut a check to Mederos’s family..."
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 10:43 AM on 01.21.09
->> Another photographer disputes the claim by Reuters.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25105505@N07/3212113517/
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Andrew Sullivan, Photo Editor, Photographer
Kissimmee | FL | USA | Posted: 12:39 PM on 05.01.09
->> Here is a little twist on Fairey's 'appropriation'...

http://tinyurl.com/db9feu

Anyone with fond memories of 80's pop culture should enjoy.


Andrew Sullivan
www.picandrew.com
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Michael Muszynski, Photographer, Student/Intern
Chicago | IL | USA | Posted: 1:58 PM on 05.01.09
->> After making my own Fairey-ized picture, I downloaded it to my desktop, only to notice that it downloaded with the filename "original_image.png".

Still, isn't this all reminiscent of what Andy Warhol did years ago?
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 8:55 PM on 05.01.09
->> "Like it or not, Fairey's use of the picture is well within the parameters of what’s considered "fair use." "

Bullshit.
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