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Newsweek criticized for NOT retouching photo
Bruce Twitchell, Photographer
Coeur d'Alene | ID | USA | Posted: 2:22 AM on 10.09.08
->> http://www.pdnpulse.com/2008/10/video-republica.html


Good grief, have things really gotten this bad? Where people expect photos to be retouched in NEWS magazines?
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 2:29 AM on 10.09.08
->> I don't even know what to say to that. I think the photo is fine. It's how she looks and I think she is pretty.

I personally believe that women should be allowed to age naturally and gracefully. We've earned all that character on our faces! Besides that, I believe a person's countenance ages them (or not) more than wrinkles do.
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Myung Chun, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 2:43 AM on 10.09.08
->> Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 2:58 AM on 10.09.08
->> spin...folks..it's spin. it's only going to get worse in the next 30 days. please let this thread die.
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Erik Warren, Photographer
Burlington | NC | USA | Posted: 5:07 AM on 10.09.08
->> What do you think OJ is saying about it right now?
LOL
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 7:23 AM on 10.09.08
->> And that is why politics could easily piss me off...
If I let it.
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Will Powers, Photographer
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 8:05 AM on 10.09.08
->> Bruce,

Fox asks for comments at the end of the story,did you tell Fox? Whining about it here may get something done, but a direct comment to Fox, the NPPA or Newsweek would be better placed. SS doesn't have a dept that represents photographer's concerns in ethical issues that I'm aware of; however, the NPPA does.
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Brad Smith, Photographer
Beijing | China | China | Posted: 8:28 AM on 10.09.08
->> Consider the source...Fox has a bias that's well documented.

That being said; I'm just glad she's not winking...
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Rob Dicker, Photographer
Lake Villa | IL | USA | Posted: 8:31 AM on 10.09.08
->> Actually, all those age lines around her eyes were brought on by the excessive winking ;)
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
Jefferson | MD | USA | Posted: 8:41 AM on 10.09.08
->> It's Fox. You expect fair and balanced? Ha!
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Tom Davenport, Photographer
Hayden | ID | USA | Posted: 9:23 AM on 10.09.08
->> I was at a magazine rack just yesterday and that magazine kept getting in the way of what I was looking for. I think it is an eye catching image, so to speak.
td
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Patrick Meredith, Photographer, Assistant
Austin | TX | USA | Posted: 10:05 AM on 10.09.08
->> Ugh, they should have retouched it. I can see Russia in her pores!
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
Jefferson | MD | USA | Posted: 10:09 AM on 10.09.08
->> And those pores have stared into the eyes of Putin.
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 10:40 AM on 10.09.08
->> Come on, it's Fox News.

They're idiots.
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Doug Holleman, Photographer
Temple | TX | USA | Posted: 1:06 PM on 10.09.08
->> I'm sure Newsweek is 100% fair and balanced, and none of their numerous Obama covers was touched up at all.
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Joel Kowsky, Student/Intern, Photographer
Columbia / Morris | MO/IL | United States | Posted: 1:15 PM on 10.09.08
->> If you click the link to the videos on Fox's website that is in the PDN article there is a follow up video that has commentary from a photographer. It's kinda interesting...
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Eric Isaacs, Photographer
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 2:18 PM on 10.09.08
->> Follow up report by Fox:
http://tinyurl.com/3mkkem

They consult with an "award winning photography expert" who suggests, based on a "bad color copy" that perhaps Newsweek actually enhanced the negative aspects in photoshop. He went on to state that he has, as professional courtesy, whitened people's teeth, fixed a chipped tooth and other blatant violations of basic journalistic ethics.

The only resolve I can see for making Palin look better would have been done by her media consultant before the shoot - slather on enough makeup to make her look better before the image was made.

What a bunch of hogwash - (no intended reference to the "lipstick on a pig" fiasco)

EMI
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Preston Mack, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 3:27 PM on 10.09.08
->> The sad part is there is a number of people in this country that believe this crap.
We are doomed.
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Charles Ludeke, Student/Intern, Photographer
Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 6:32 PM on 10.09.08
->> Eric, after class today, I went to lunch with a friend at the Heidelberg, and in the stairwell to the porch on the roof, there is a photograph from the 2003 Missouri vs. Nebraska football game, when Mizzou was the victor. The photo credit was "William Mathis" who was the photographer interviewed by Fox News. The photograph isn't anywhere near the quality I would expect from a so-called "photo expert"
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 9:44 PM on 10.09.08
->> Interesting subject, but I'd like to talk about the things I memorized and not answer these silly questions brought forth by the gotcha media ;)
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Jason Brown, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 10:43 PM on 10.09.08
->> THIS JUST IN:
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/what_we_call_the_news
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
Hudson | NH | USA | Posted: 11:00 PM on 10.09.08
->> Slow news day, huh?
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Mike Burley, Photographer
Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 6:04 AM on 10.10.08
->> “This is a gross slap in the face to Sarah Palin after Newsweek has done so many favorable covers of Barack Obama that make him look presidential, that are clearly retouched,” she said. “He looks flawless.”

-Andrea Tantaros, a Republican political and media commentator said on Fox News.

Now I know its just spin and these are just tactics by biased "news" organizations... but ARE photos retouched for Newsweek covers? I never noticed before.
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Marcus Yam, Student/Intern, Photographer
Roanoke | VA | USA | Posted: 10:52 AM on 10.10.08
->> What she's not one of us now? She's gotta be retouched now? What happened to "i'm one of you?" mantra?
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Scott Schild, Photographer
Buffalo | NY | United States | Posted: 12:46 PM on 10.10.08
->> Its amazing to me how separated Fox News is from the ethics of journalism. How could the writers/producers call for a segment that it is against basic ethical practices of media outlets; That is to retouch a editorial news photo. To me it make them seem very ignorant, and extremely untrustworthy, and after this clip I view them as a joke - not a news source.

I'm sure when Playboy gets a hold of her they will give her all the retouching she, or Fox News, could possibly ever want.
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Jonas Carlson, Photographer
Stockholm | SE | Sweden | Posted: 1:20 PM on 10.10.08
->> Only in America.. ;-)
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Alex Cena, Photographer
Scotch Plains | NJ | USA | Posted: 11:03 PM on 10.11.08
->> I think their point is if you are going to retouch one you should retouch all or not retouch any. The best is to not retouch anything obviously, IMO. Not a worthwhile segment, but Fox does have its place as a counterbalance to CNN and MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC much as talk radio shows such as Sean Hannity, Neil Boortz and Rush Limbaugh serve as a counterbalance to NPR as the WSJ is to NYT. Read, Watch and Listen to them all and somewhere in all that noise may be the truth. But let's face it, the media has made it clear who it wants to win, IMO. Not that we have much of a choice this year between a bonehead and a Marxist. We would have a better choice if we flipped both tickets. Nevertheless, whoever wins, we Americans will have to line up behind our leader though we can long for the good old days when Ronald Reagan and Teddy Roosevelt were president. I am sure their prodigy is out there somewhere and will rise at the appropriate time to save us all. Maybe in 2012.
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 6:02 AM on 10.12.08
->> Alex - The problem is they didn't re-touch the Obama covers it looks like, just take a look at them. I only saw small versions online and even those you could see everything on him that they are complaining about on her, every single imperfection and stubble was there. They want special treatment for her which is wrong IMO. It seems everything else posted in that response is directly from Fox News as well, blaming the media for picking him and calling Obama a marxist because he knew someone in the early 70's. Same with them attacking McCain for the Keating scandal, all useless attacks trying to cloud issues. It is interesting though that now twice photographers have been brought into the whole thing with Jill's horrible job and now this.
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Rob Dicker, Photographer
Lake Villa | IL | USA | Posted: 7:59 AM on 10.12.08
->> Anyone interested in scanning in the cover and having an on-line Fox-like retouching contest? I think that could be fun. And to make it fair and balanced we should do it with an Obama cover as well.
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Alex Cena, Photographer
Scotch Plains | NJ | USA | Posted: 8:33 AM on 10.12.08
->> Mike - It is a shame to drag spectators into this boxing match. And, no one should get special treatment. My definition of Marxist in not about the noise on the 70s guy, but all the ideas on redistribution of wealth and increased government programs that we can't afford including all these bailouts.
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Fj Hughes, Photographer, Assistant
Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 10:17 AM on 10.12.08
->> Marxist? I thought he was an Islamist terrorist. Jeeeesh!
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 12:48 PM on 10.12.08
->> Fox News has a 24/7 cycle to fill and much of it with commentary leaning in a specific direction. It seems that they have a history of going out on a limb with such as this to satisfy their loyal audience.

"Much ado about nothing."
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 6:08 PM on 10.12.08
->> Alex - Without explaining what a marxist truly is because this is already off the original topic enough, there is no call for redistribution of wealth that is any way similar to the marxist plan. It's simply not giving breaks to those who can afford it (the rich), we've done that for eight years and look what it's gotten! Same for the programs, all to aid the middle class because if they're doing well the economy is doing well and we're selling more pics! Also, a bailout is not always a bad thing - look at Clinton's with Mexico where he made $500 million profit for the country - of course it depends how it's set up.

Now back to those who created all this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo
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Michael Stevens, Photographer
Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 10:26 AM on 10.13.08
->> It's amazing how many libs get their feathers all ruffled over a fluff piece of "news." Why would anyone take that segment seriously?
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George Holland, Photographer
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 8:15 PM on 10.27.08
->> While passing through the airport today I took a brief glance at the cover photo on the current newsstand issue of Rolling Stone Magazine featuring Barack Obama. I’m curious to get a closer look to see how this image was presented.
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