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Disabled or Legally Blind Photographers?
Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 1:11 PM on 09.23.08
->> Ok I have been thinking about how to go about this. So I will simply ask...
Do you know of any Disabled or Legally Blind working photographers, SS member?

May be a stupid question "Blind Photographer" but there are a few of us around, with limited sight, but put a camera in our hands we can see again... Auto focus, diopter and great lenses make the difference.

I'd like to hear from you... How you work, and get around as a pro. If you at all feel uneasy in discussing this openly, feel free to contact me directly (e-mail is best). I do have a visual disability. But as a photographer, I don't regularly openly discuss it.

Legally Blind is the US is defined as any one having a visual acuity of 20/200 or more.
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 1:38 PM on 09.23.08
->> http://www.abilitiesartsfestival.org/gallery2007/richard_michael.html

Already know of him... I'm looking more for sports or photojournalist related or members here on SportsShooter.
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 2:02 PM on 09.23.08
->> I've been blind in my left eye since I was 2 1/2-years old.

Without my glasses, my vision in my right eye qualifies for being legally blind. But of course my glasses fix my vision, so 'technically' I'm not legally blind.

That said, I simply shoot pictures. What's the big deal? Hasn't stopped me yet.
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
bay area | CA | | Posted: 3:05 PM on 09.23.08
->> i have a colleague here in the bay area who is a news videojournalist -- he shoots from his car and wheelchair. happy to connect you two, with his permission
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Jim Comeau, Student/Intern, Photographer
San Diego | CA | USA | Posted: 3:26 PM on 09.23.08
->> My dad has always been a hobbyist and he's been blind in one eye since youth like Walter. Only thing is that he's farsighted rather than nearsighted. I think his monocular vision has helped him rather than hindered him.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 5:20 PM on 09.23.08
->> I had a boss who once told me they thought I was blind...does that count?
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Rich Cruse, Photographer
Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 6:35 PM on 09.23.08
->> Cycling photographer Darcy Kiefel is blind in her right eye. That stinks because it is tough shooting with your left eye. Try it! Cameras are meant to be held with your right hand and used with your right eye. She made it work though!
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 6:53 PM on 09.23.08
->> Thanks all... I know it's not a normally discussed topic... But... to the point... I'm legally blind WITH glasses, in both eyes (from birth). No it has not stopped me from shooting.

My biggest thing is, getting to events (I do not, can not drive), not shooting them.

Not having much fun trying football this fall (just trying it out), think I may stick to baseball, and wrestling...

Thanks for the input... Feel free to add more, or if you wish, contact me.
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
bay area | CA | | Posted: 7:01 PM on 09.23.08
->> it's been my casual observation and longstanding belief that photographers with very poor vision outnumber the rest. my opinion is that having one's vision compromised increases the value of what is seen. that is, with poor eyesight, we value images and visual input more. i started in photography using a rolleiflex that belonged to my dad --he was legally blind.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 7:28 PM on 09.23.08
->> rich, I'm a left eyed shooter. it's weird but the viewfinders are about three stops darker when I look through them with my right eye....it's been that way for 35 years...never have figured it out. and I had 20/20 in my left eye and 20/10 in my right...of course now....being old and all........
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Rich Cruse, Photographer
Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 7:52 PM on 09.23.08
->> Interesting Chuck! My right eye is weakening- I think without AF, I might be out of work all together! I can see alright, it hard to tell when something is tack sharp that is the trouble. Also, modern cameras have viewfinders that are not nearly as bright as they used to be and the focussing screens do not make it easy for manually focussing either!

I'm just glad to be able to keep working!
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 7:56 PM on 09.23.08
->> I shoot with both eyes, normally starting a game with my right, and finishing with my left. I was a right eye only shooter for many years.
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Jim Comeau, Student/Intern, Photographer
San Diego | CA | USA | Posted: 8:26 PM on 09.23.08
->> I've noticed that each of my eyes has a different white balance. I think my left has more of a yellowish cast and my right has more of a magenta cast.
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Wes Hope, Photographer
Maryville | TN | USA | Posted: 8:30 PM on 09.23.08
->> Rich, you'll find that there are many left-eyed shooters. Including me. It effects camera usage none. We all have a dominant eye and for some us it's opposite your writing hand. One advantage I see is that I don't have to close my right eye when shooting. So I can keep an eye on things with my peripheral vision (on my right side).

I know a lot of photographers that have glasses or contacts (most with pretty bad eyes). Again, myself included. I often joke that we became professionals in a field involving "seeing" to compensate for our "blindness".
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 8:50 PM on 09.23.08
->> Jim, I'm the same way. I usually shoot left eyed, but if I switch to the right everything through the viewfinder has a yellow tint.
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 9:37 PM on 09.23.08
->> Allow me to clarify, I think we're a little off topic here... It's not about left v right eye use... It's simply about really bad eyesight... 20/200 is BAD... In most states you need 20/70 to drive... As you all know 20/20 is perfect.

My main question was, if there where any of you, who had bad sight who still work as a photographer or editor, and how you get around, or if it has ever affected you getting a gig, OR you simply don't tell any one you have bad sight.
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Aaron Rhoads, Photographer
McComb | MS | USA | Posted: 10:35 PM on 09.23.08
->> Richard, this is an good topic. I've pondered what I would do if I lost or started loosing my sight.

Would I have to give up photography.
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 6:43 AM on 09.24.08
->> "...you'll find that there are many left-eyed shooters. Including me. It effects camera usage none."

None? How about (as diagnosed by a EN&T specialist) the double deviated septum I (a left eyed shooter) have after years of pushing heavy cameras against my face? The doctor asked if I'd ever had my nose broken...

I'd like to have it fixed but insurance doesn't cover it and I can't really spare the few thousand dollars it'd take to fix right now.
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 8:00 AM on 09.24.08
->> Jim

There are special funds for DDS that you can apply for in Nigeria.
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
Belvidere | IL | USA | Posted: 8:05 AM on 09.24.08
->> This thread reminded me of an old photo.net thread that I bookmarked years ago, not because it affected me, but because I found the subject matter quite intriguing:
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=001144

The thread is chock full o' anecdotes about photographers' eyesight.
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Dave Doonan, Photographer
Kingston | TN | USA | Posted: 10:24 AM on 09.24.08
->> "Cameras are meant to be held with your right hand and used with your right eye. "
I use my left eye, but my nose gets in the way!
yes, it's big.
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Lindy Dugger, Photographer
Rome | Ga | | Posted: 10:53 AM on 09.24.08
->> Not photojournalists/SS members per se, but CNN did a video earlier this month about a group of completely blind photographers in Israel.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/09/09/hancocks.mideast.eyes.wid...
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 2:30 PM on 09.24.08
->> Anyone know exactly why switching eyes gives the differences in perceived brightness and/or color ?

I've noticed the exact same thing when switching eyes on the viewfinder. Just looking at things with one eye open normally and then switching doesn't give this effect, its only through a viewfinder where its really pronounced

I'd be really intrested in hearing if anyone knows a bit of the science behind why this is.
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 3:00 PM on 09.24.08
->> Guys, kindly stay on topic...
This thread is NOT about eye dominance use left v right.
The questions are about legally blind or visually disabled photographers.

For example.. I for one would love to work more news... But because most news photographers work on-call or listening to scanners and DRIVE... I for one, can not. My sight prevents me from driving.

I could be a photo editor? But how does one get such a job, and what does a photo editor really do? (Pictures a guy sitting with 3 monitors and Lightroom open with 10,000 photos)! ?

Kindly stay on topic :-)
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 3:15 PM on 09.24.08
->> richard, personally I don't see (no pun intended) how a newspaper photographer could possibly do there job if they were unable to drive or operate a motor vehicle. Unless you lived in a metro area with mass transit, had the money to pay for a driver every day or broke the law driving. Photo editor? Sure, if you could see the computer monitor and wanted to look at thousands of photos a day yeah, that's what that job is. But asking if a paper, especially in these days and times, would hire someone with a serious vision problem? It's kind of like asking if a paper would hire you to cover state house politics if you couldn't speak or write english. I guess that's why the thread went askew....it's really an absurd question.
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Matthew Cavanah, Student/Intern, Photographer
Columbia | MO | US | Posted: 4:30 PM on 09.24.08
->> I work with a colorblind photographer. It gets funny at times around the office, like when I forgot he was colorblind for a bit and color coded our assignment calendar.

Richard, if you turn a photo around in quick order for print, that could be valuable to a newsroom. Toning and processing for web and such.
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 5:42 PM on 09.24.08
->> Chuck... I think your answer is pretty unfair. While you have a valid point about not being able to drive, I wouldn't be so naive in thinking someone can't do something just because they have a particular disability. That line of thought is the only thing that's absurd here.

If someone has the portfolio that backs up their ability to be a photographer, why shouldn't he be afforded the same opportunity as anyone else? While someone who is legally blind and can't drive likely wouldn't be able to be a news photographer who needs to be on breaking news at the drop of a hat, nothing says they can't be a documentary photojournalist who spends a lot of time with one particular subject, or be a photo editor who works with photojournalists on picture selection and with designers on picture play.
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
bay area | CA | | Posted: 6:01 PM on 09.24.08
->> richard, a job possibility for you might be working on the picture desk, which is basically chasing down and managing all the day's (local and wire) photos that come in on their way to print and web output, searching archives for story art, verifying captions, making archives of images, updating websites. a lot of the job ( tonal correction, curve adjustment, color management etc-- was automated and by-the-numbers. it is strictly a DESK job, high stress when news breaks and the computers go down, and you see lots of good images. i imagine turnover is high because it is a desk vs. field position. but is an important one as its the reality check/ quality control for photo.
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
bay area | CA | | Posted: 6:14 PM on 09.24.08
->> fyi, here is the job description for job title = "image technician"

Job functions:
1. Make tonal corrections to photos prior to publication.
2. Assist editors and designers in retrieving photos from our archive.
3. Work with other (member) newspapers to get photos, or provide them with (our) photos.
4. Assist editors and designers by retrieving photos from our syndicated photo suppliers, and from internet web sites.
5. Update several photo web sites we host to allow sharing of photos with (member) editors and with other newspapers.
6. Retrieval of daily weather map pages, tv grid pages, puzzles and other miscellaneous items for publication.
7. Other photo or image production duties as may be assigned.
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 6:16 PM on 09.24.08
->> Thank you Bradly...
I can see, I'm not color blind... But, no I can not drive. I know breaking news would be hard, but documentary or sport coverage is what I like. I spend this season shooting our local Little League, and built a nice portfolio from it.

Because of my vision I almost never get outfield shots, after the ball is hit... well to me, it's lost (unless it's a softball)... But focused shots like 2nd base, 3rd base, home plate plays, batter shots.. shortstops... I get them just fine.. It's a lot of timing and knowing the game.

Threw my camera I can see better then in life.. Too bad I can't drive with a camera strapped to my head. There is how ever, Bioptic Driving, but no, I do not qualify.

Evidentiary, I'm not a bad photographer... I made the cut to be a SportsShooter member. :-)
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 6:36 PM on 09.24.08
->> so bradley, since you agreed with the driving part I'm confused. so in this day and age where staffs are being sliced and diced with budget cuts and perfectly healthy photographers are losing their jobs. how was I being unfair. I never said anyone couldn't be a documentary photographer if they wanted to. I agreed they could be a photo editor, you sit in an office and make decisions, yep you could do that with severe vision problems. so now it's "unfair" to state the truth? your profile says you're the chief photographer at your paper, you would honestly hire someone who wasn't able to drive to be a staff photographer out there in wyoming? last time I checked mass transit in jackson hole you guys have a bus line that's in trouble and is mostly used to take people to the ski resorts. so does that mean you're going to hire another person to drive them around? I just don't get it, it doesn't help anyone to make pollyanna statements like that and give someone false hopes. I'm sorry if the word "absurd" upset you but when someone asks that kind of question it's best not to give them false and unreasonable hope. but richard, you most probably could become a photo editor with the right experience under your belt. unfortunately most of the photo editors I know started out as photographers.
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 6:57 PM on 09.24.08
->> Chuck,
And why would he not hire me if I showed a good portfolio, or know my way around photoshop? If I had a way to get to the office or a shoot, or could work from home on broadband?

You sound a little scared that a blind man could do you job better?

I'm stuck shooting youth level events in my small town, well simply because there is not much else to shoot... I've not contacted my local paper because they are small; and well frankly... people like you, who seem very close minded.
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David A. Cantor, Photo Editor, Photographer
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 09.24.08
->> Richard,

Try here:

http://ejvega.blogspot.com/2008/07/in-interview-with-flo-fox-by-eddie-vega....

N. B. - Adult Content Advisory
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
bay area | CA | | Posted: 7:07 PM on 09.24.08
->> richard suggested, tongue in cheek, having a camera strapped to his head -- the equivalent of a helmet cam. but with fixed, remote cameras now commonplace (on the backboards, at homeplate, at busy intersections, google earth cams) and in our increasingly surveillance-oriented society, we aren't far from the time and place or mindset where drones will harvest most images. what will be needed then are people to review takes for meaningful content and composition and to caption them appropriately. will these people have started in photography? maybe not.
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 7:24 PM on 09.24.08
->> Chuck...

1. Please spell my name correctly. One of the first rules of being a good photojournalist. Richard might not see well, but at least he can see that.

2. It's clear you know little, or haven't checked lately, about the state Jackson's mass transit system and who uses it (though I'd find it funny if someone from North Carolina DID check regularly, but hey, if you do, more power to ya). It's not in trouble and actually is purchasing a couple new buses, but I digress...

3. Unfortunately, Richard likely wouldn't be able work here at the News&Guide because the job does require driving and photographers are expected to cover everything from breaking news to sports to features. It's just the nature of a small paper. But if Richard (or anyone else with a disability) had a stellar documentary or sports portfolio and I was the photo editor at a large metro or agency where they have beat-specific photographers, (i.e., those who cover only sports, only features or general assignment) and I had a position open that fit his specific shooting style, you're damn right I'd hire him.

Basically, if someone has the references to testify he/she can do a job and the portfolio to back it up, I would extend the same consideration to them as I would to any other portfolio that landed on my desk.

Finally, I would be careful in your choice of words when you're talking about people with disabilities. I know folks who are double amputees and people who are legally/totally blind. I personally am 92% deaf in my left ear and 12% in my right. I can only speak for myself, but can reasonably assume my disabled friends would all consider themselves "perfectly healthy."
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
bay area | CA | | Posted: 7:39 PM on 09.24.08
->> hey bradley, don't you guys have an internship available now?
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 7:47 PM on 09.24.08
->> Nina... we do. Send an email through my SS page if you're interested, and please also see #1 in my previous post ;)
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 7:57 PM on 09.24.08
->> I hate it when people warn me to be careful. you made my point thanks brad.
"3. Unfortunately, Richard likely wouldn't be able work here at the News&Guide because the job does require driving and photographers are expected to cover everything from breaking news to sports to features. It's just the nature of a small paper. "
you seem to be a might out of touch however, it's the nature of ALL paper's now, big or small.
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 8:08 PM on 09.24.08
->> And what, exactly, was your point? Chuck Liddy dishing out tough love on the ways of the world? If that indeed was your point, I'm afraid I'm not the one out of touch.

P.S. - if you'd like to keep abreast of Jackson's mass transit system "that's in trouble," here's some good reading material...

http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=1352
http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=2669
http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=1632
http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=1015
http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=1652

Not bad for a bus line "mostly used to take people to the ski resorts," eh?
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 8:40 PM on 09.24.08
->> My Top 25 Little League Portraits 2008
http://www.favingerphotography.com/blog/2008/09/05/little-league-sports-por.../
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 9:33 PM on 09.24.08
->> richard, nice portraits.
brad, thanks for the reading material
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 3:34 PM on 09.25.08
->> 1) You have no news experience. After looking at your website it seems you are a hobbyist.

I cover the Little League 2008 Senior Girls Softball Section 8 Championships and the PIAA District 1 HS Wrestling Finals last year... I also contribute photos to our local school districts yearbooks. Only the level of a "hobbyist" to the extent I've never shot a "pro" sport.

2) you mention your small town paper is "too" small. I'm curious, where did you think you were going to start? The Philly Enquirer?

I didn't say any thing about starting big, I just said there are few opportunities here. I said I'd like to do more journalistic work, but I am realistic about it. If all I get to cover is HS and the local Little League, I'm happy. (Shooting at LLWS is a goal at least once).

FYI our paper may be small but it has won 2 Pulitzer's one for Editorial Writing, and one for Photojournalism.

3) So say you get over these two major hurdles. The fact of the matter is papers are downsizing, we've lost four photographers in two months and are getting ready to lose another one.

Is the other one you?

4) One word. Multimedia. do you have the skill set to do it now. Not learn it on the job but jump in and produce video or soundslides projects now.

Do any of us "have skill"... We all need to learn. If your offered training and can't hack it, or lied on your application, you don't deserve the job. I guess that means you where borne with a camera in hand...

5) It is a myth that their are "sports shooting" jobs at newspapers. Those specialized positions are gone. Even The Washington Post has made their main sports photographers do GA.

I can go shoot the Gardener's Club if it makes the editor happy. Old ladies with shovels can really get into it some times...

6) You cannot legally drive...okay that (no matter what bullshit ole brad was spouting) would be a deal breaker at any paper I've ever seen, no matter what your portfolio looked like I can't imagine anyone who would hire a photojournalist that could not legally drive.

It's a problem sure... But I'm sure the Americans with Disabilities Act would have something to say about your discriminatory comments. I'd happily work as a 2nd shooter if some one would drive me to the games.

Buzz off Chuck...
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 4:16 PM on 09.25.08
->> Richard - I assume the above is an email Chuck sent to you off the board. That's actually really sad. From reading this and many of his other posts in this site I have concluded Chuck is so unhappy with his own life that he needs to drag others into his misery.

Even if Chuck's sage wizdom dictates you have no business even thinking about being a photojournalist, there's some pretty amazing people out there doing some pretty amazing things. There is a place in the world of photography for you; your images speak for themselves. Focus on your strengths and you'll find your niche. If shooting for your local newspaper would satisfy you, I would start by contributing your little league shots and offering to shoot high school sports. Like I say, if you prove you can do a job well regardless of your disability, there's no reason they shouldn't let you contribute. Hell, it would probably make a good feature story for them, too ;)

Cheers,
Brad
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 4:39 PM on 09.25.08
->> Ok, let's get back more to the topic here and stop finger pointing, etc.

I won't go into all of the ADA stuff as there are limitations on that and it's above my legal abilities to argue it.

Now let's get to the reality of what you are looking to do -- expand your shooting experience and for that we can simply take out the vision question and look at ability. As an editor hiring someone, if I give them an assignment I don't care how they get there, I just care how the final product looks and that I get the images in a timely manner --whether it's breaking news or planned well in advance.

You're doing a nice job on little league and you want to move up. Understandable, that's what we all do -- please refer to Jim McNay's current essay on that on the front page of SS.com. I started covering high school sports and little league baseball in high school and moved on to college and eventually pros as I moved to different jobs.

If you want to stay in Pottstown your opportunities are limited just because you don't have major college or pro ball in the immediate vicinity. Yes, you have Philly relatively close, but that market is chock full of more experienced people you would have to beat out on ability -- I'm not saying you couldn't do it, but it's a Catch-22 situation: you need more experience but you can't get into pro or major college games to get the experience. It's frustrating and tons of freelancers face the same dilemma.

I say keep shooting what you're shooting. You have fun at it and from the site referenced above you do well at it but no matter how much experience everyone can keep improving.

Talk to your local paper about trying to cover more high school games in the area. Call papers from visiting teams and see if you can shoot for them. If you have any small colleges nearby with varied athletic programs talk to the SID, and, again, hometown papers of visiting teams. You may have to explain to the SID that you will need a second pass for an assistant and that usually won't be a problem. You then have someone who can drive you and help you lug your gear around the field -- I actually wish I could have an assistant at games for all the gear.

As far as photo editing, sure you can do the job. It's not glamorous and involves long hours of staring at a computer (how I miss the days of zipping a roll of negatives through my hands under a loupe). But it can be a great career. I've gone farther in photography because of my editing skills than my shooting ability alone would have taken me. But working as an editor has taken me to numerous Super Bowls, Final Fours and Olympics. While I've gotten to shoot at some of those my primary responsibility has been editing. So it's not a bad life.

The problem has been referenced above -- with papers laying off people right and left any opening that comes up will have lots of applicants (many that are over-qualified) so you will have to compete with all of them.

There are some good workshops out there for photography and photo editing. If you are interested in expanding your borders you may want to look at some of them.

PS: Chuck may be blunt sometimes (all of the time?) in his comments but every now and then he is right.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 4:43 PM on 09.25.08
->> I wasn't going to respond to this nonsense again but the past two posts by richard and brad kind of hacked me off, thanks for the classiness (sarcasm here) you both seem to possess. I'm sorry being truthful about something seems to be a problem for you both. yes, that was a private email sent to richard to explain reasons I thought he would have a more than tough time getting a job in this (the photojournalism/newspaper) business. the thing that actually bothers me the most about this is richard, you left out some crucial comments in the email that were pretty important and you still didn't get ANY of the points I was trying to make with you. The comments are not discriminatory...my comments if you read them have nothing to do with any disability of any kind. you actually left out parts of the message that pointed out the first five reasons I said you would probably have a problem getting a job has NOTHING to do with your disability. and what I find pretty silly is you actually said in a post farther back that you hadn't even contacted the local paper "I've not contacted my local paper because they are small; and well frankly... people like you, who seem very close minded". nice everybody is out to slam you, even those you haven't even contacted. that is the sad part. mr. brad, nope I'm a doggone happy guy. someone asked advice and I was TRUTHFUL with him. like many hobbyists he doesn't want to hear the truth about how hard it is to actually get and stay in this business. you actually should be ashamed for leading someone on like that...or wait...why don't you hire him? you have a job opening right. put your money where your mouth is. and finally #3...no....I'm buzzing off now, have a great weekend.
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 5:28 PM on 09.25.08
->> I guess my point is that these forums should be a place of encouragement.

Chuck, while there actually is truth and substance in many of your posts, they're so convoluted and watered down with negativity and discouragement they hardly come across as constructive. You then spout off stuff like, "hey, I'm just telling the TRUTH here" when it would just be better for everyone if you just didn't say anything at all.

Just my opinion, of course, but 98 "Inappropriate" labels to your posts by 81 different members indicates that I'm not alone. That or there are 81 panzified weenies on this site; my guess is that you think the latter, but that's another debate for another thread.

I usually don't get into these stupid back and fourth arguments but I fell into a trap with someone who clearly has a lot of fun with it. For that I apologize for getting off topic and I'll just drop it there.
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Jean Finley, Photo Editor, Photographer
Iowa City | IA | USA | Posted: 10:44 AM on 09.26.08
->> Richard -

What about partnering with someone for documentary work? Say, a writer that can drive? Or an intern that can drive?

What else do you love to do besides photograpy? There may be some combination of abilities that will work to do most of what you love.

Are you prepared to relocate? Or would you rather keep homebase where you are? Staff or freelance?


Bradly -
Thanks for your contributions to this thread. I appreciate your comments and your use of punctuation. ;)
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 12:57 PM on 09.26.08
->> Jean,
All things I never really considered. Partnering with someone is always an option. But for what I shoot now it just doesn't happen.

What else do you love to do besides photography?

That would be judo... But again, since I have gotten my black belt and help run a local club, I have been unable to shoot events we attend, I'm too busy coaching our students.

I do have a friend, who is blind and was on the 2008 USA Paralympic Blind Judo Team. (We helped him train here in PA)... I was going to do a Photo Essay on him, but the circumstances under which he was selected (very short notice) didn't leave time to get any thing arranged.

His name is Dr. Andre Watson (Has a Master’s and Doctorate Degrees in Clinical Psychology from Widener University), and is totally blind.
http://paralympics.teamusa.org/athlete/athlete/2058
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Richard Favinger Jr, Photographer
Pottstown | PA | USA | Posted: 4:44 PM on 09.26.08
->> How can I be off topic when I am replying to a question from Jean in my own thread? Looks like someone is being a dick.
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | US | Posted: 5:40 PM on 09.26.08
->> Richard, I think ou got marked off topic because you said:

"The questions are about legally blind or visually disabled photographers"

then you went on to post "That would be judo..."

2/3rds of your post was clearly off-topic

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I'd hire you to shoot baseball portraits because I like your work. I don't care how you get there as long as you're on time and don't ask me for a ride.

I couldn't hire you to shoot a baseball GAME because you admitted that if the ball is out of the infield you'd have trouble.

If you demonstrated that you could edit, theoretically would also hire you to edit my other photographers games from the weekend. Right now, you couldn't edit for me because you don't even know what goes into the job.

It seems like you're making an excuse for not contacting the local/smaller newspapers in your area. Not to mention that there are a TON of smaller colleges in your where you could get really good access.

When I quickly look at your work I see a portrait photographer, not necessarily a sports photographer.
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