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PM ingesting vs. Drag and Drop...
Mike Burley, Photographer
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 4:47 AM on 09.16.08 |
->> With a Sandisk IV 2gb and Sandisk FW 800 reader, it seems like it takes about 1 minute 50 seconds on average to drag and drop a full card to the desktop of my Macbook Pro. When I use PM's ingest, it seems to take almost twice as long (with no ITPC) to download. I know that the ability to DL multiple cards is a plus, and its great to walk away w/o having to drag and drop several times.
When it comes to pure speed and you're on deadline, it seems like good ol' drag and drop to desktop is much quicker. Im using the latest version PM. Am I missing something? Sorry of this has been discussed. If there's already a thread, please point me in the right direction. |
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 5:41 AM on 09.16.08 |
| ->> i too would like to know any recommendations that might surface! |
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Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
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Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 6:03 AM on 09.16.08 |
->> Mike,
You might want to post this question on the Camera Bits forums
http://forums.camerabits.com/index.php
Kirk Baker, one of their software engineers, is great about getting answers quickly. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he sees your question here and responds to you directly.
Kevin |
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 6:17 AM on 09.16.08 |
| ->> I had a local shooter tell me the same thing once, Mike. I tried it and can see no appreciable difference, but I agree with Kevin about posting to the Camera Bits forum: Kirk IS amazing about getting to the questions posted there. Let us know what he says. |
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Mike Burley, Photographer
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 2:44 PM on 09.16.08 |
| ->> Thanks guys! I'll keep you posted. |
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Primoz Jeroncic, Photographer
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Kranj | SI | Slovenia | Posted: 3:43 PM on 09.16.08 |
| ->> I actually had this issue around 2 years ago. I can't remember which version of PM it was, or maybe it was even some of beta versions. But after that I never had such issues anymore, and speed of just copying files from card to computer or ingesting them through PM are same. |
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Christopher Szagola, Photographer
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Richboro | PA | United States | Posted: 3:52 PM on 09.16.08 |
| ->> If you Ingest with PM, you can add the IPTC data right way, which you can't with Drag and Drop, for that reason alone, I Ingest. also if you lock the file you need to work on right away, then you can only ingest them and save the rest until you have to go back to shooting and your computer will be just sitting there... |
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Mike Burley, Photographer
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 6:34 PM on 09.16.08 |
->> Christopher,
If Im really pressed for time, I just add the IPTC to to the 5-6 images Im transmitting rather than to all 7-800+ images. For me, it seems to be quicker to add the IPTC to only the tagged images I will potentially be sending.
I have the newest PM, so Im not sure why there would be any difference in DL time. I'm asking on the PM boards as we speak.
After spending lots of $$ on FW800 readers and 300x UDMA cards I hope I can utilize their full potential... hopefully its an easy PM fix because I really like the streamline workflow ingesting provides. |
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Jim Burgess, Photographer
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Gainesville | FL | US | Posted: 7:02 PM on 09.16.08 |
| ->> Go to the PM forum referenced above and do a search for a topic named "slow ingest". Towards the bottom are some test results that might be useful. What versions of the Mac OS and PM are you running? From the PM forum: "Notice that PM 4.5.3.1 is very much slower than PM 4.5.3.2 on Mac OS X 10.5.4." |
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Mike Burley, Photographer
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 7:01 PM on 09.17.08 |
->> Here was my answer form Kirk.. and I dont use a secondary destination, yet the DL time is almost twice as slow.
Quote from: Mike Burley on Today at 12:24:41 PM
"I am also having speed issues downloading from OSX 10.4.11 and PM 4.5.3.2 on my 1GHz PowerPC G4 Powerbook. Im using a Delkin FW800 reader and a Sandisk Extreme IV 2GB card. When its full, a drag and drop can be done in 1 minute 50 secs. When I ingest (no IPTC applied) it takes about twice as long. Anything I can do to? Are there any settings that I can change to speed up the ingest?"
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Are you ingesting to a secondary destination? That will nearly double the time spent. Also having PM browse the photos as they come in will slow things down somewhat.
The fastest speed will always be to use the Finder. Why? Because the Finder doesn't parse the files for metadata (it doesn't even know they are images!). Photo Mechanic has to scan files for their maker notes, exif data, etc. as a part of its process.
-Kirk |
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John Froschauer, Photographer
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Seattle area | WA | USA | Posted: 7:15 PM on 09.17.08 |
| ->> I always us PM ingest, even if it's a tad slower, adding the IPTC data with a template for the cut and using the day date variable is wonderful. If you tagged a photo on the camera those are loaded first so hitting commant T and Command E to open while ingesting you have the tagged photo open in photoshop or whatever you designate. Doing so I've had a photo toned, captioned and on it's way via ftp about the time the card is finished loading. When the template is applied to all the photos ingested, also makes for better archiving as while some of the people in the photos may not be id'd the other basic stuff of what when and where is in the caption as well as the slug and keywords etc. Makes digging for a photo later easier. |
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