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Lightroom 2 (Very-Very Slow Import)
Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 2:45 AM on 08.10.08 |
| ->> I recently upgraded to Lightroom 2 early this week. Well I wanted to use it today for the first time doing some editing of an earlier shoot, but I'm amazed that how slow the import was. I was importing 400 or so RAW images and it was taking so long that I had to force the program to quit. I've been all over several sites looking for the answer. Lightroom 1 never took this long. Has anyone run into the same problem? I tried to upload the images in an IMac 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor with 4 Gig's of memory. I copied the files to my IMac hard drive and it's still slow as Christmas.... |
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Michael Troutman, Photographer
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Carmel | CA | USA | Posted: 3:15 AM on 08.10.08 |
->> I've only been importing up to 200 or so files at a time (sending selects from Photo Mechanic, actually) and have had no speed problems at all on my MacBook Pro. It sure doesn't make sense that you're having that problem...no doubt you've tried rebooting in addition to reading directly from the Mac's hard drive (hate to state the obvious). Sounds like a tech support question for the fine folks at Adobe.
For what it's worth (my $.02), LR2 is an *enormously good* upgrade and virtually everything has been improved, including UI, color rendering, speed (on my systems at least), and the burn/dodge tool is *by far the best* of any program ever developed (yes, bold claim, and it's true). The program with the best (fastest) workflow now has the functionality and image quality to make using CS3 and Capture One very intermittent (at least for me).
Truly, a killer app now. PM still rules for importing/tagging/browsing, however. |
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
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Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 8:41 AM on 08.10.08 |
->> I agree with Michael and, overall, I'm very happy. The burn/dodge tool really is excellent and I like the ability to use camera calibration profiles. Even if the profiles themselves are still in beta, I think they work very well.
But I moved files to an external hard drive by importing from a catalog and it was indeed rather slow, slower than I remember it being for LR 1.4. I haven't noticed any speed problems importing RAW (Nikon NEF) files from camera cards, though. |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 11:16 PM on 08.10.08 |
->> What are your build-preview settings? It sounds like you're building full-sized ones automatically.
By default Lightroom will try to build a 1:1 preview. That takes a long time, especially when you aren't going to want to keep, or even view, every image at 1:1. |
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Jim Metzendorf, Photographer
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Columbus | OH | United States | Posted: 8:41 PM on 08.11.08 |
->> Hi Mark,
I have tried to reproduce this problem on an almost identically configured computer (a Macbook), but it really doesn't seem to be an issue so far. However, the largest import I tried was about 250 images.
I am really falling in love with how much more quickly and efficiently you can tone images in Lightroom compared to Photoshop. Like Michael Troutman, I am still choosing my selects and doing all captioning in Photo Mechanic. I only import my selects into Lightroom. As long as I avoid the temptation to tinker, it has cut my time to crop/tone in half. Lightroom is eating RAW files and JPEGs for lunch on my machine.
I would highly encourage everyone to check out Lightroom, regardless of the type of work you do. Although I'm still in the beginning stages of learning to use it, I started to reap the benefits of a new workflow almost immediately. Toning images in Photoshop seems almost archaic in comparison.
When Aperture and Lightroom first came out, I didn't see how they would be helpful in a photojournalism deadline situation. The Photo Mechanic/Photoshop one-two punch has been a good solution until now, but the Photo Mechanic/Lightroom combo is pretty awesome. Football season will be the real test, but I'm sure it will work out very well.
Take care,
-Jim |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 8:59 PM on 08.11.08 |
->> Jim,
I've been using the PM/Lightroom combo for over a year now. I think the problem is isolated to the IMac. I imported the same amount of RAW images into my MacBook Pro this morning and they loaded like the Lightroom 1.4 version. Not blazing fast, but it didn't take 25 minutes like it was doing on the IMac. I loaded 456 RAW images and it took maybe 6 or 7 minutes at most on the MBP. But I love Lightroom and have been using it since it was in it's Bata form. I also brought Aperture 2.0 when it first came out for my kids to use on the IMac, but it seems like I wasted my money because they love Lightroom too.
Take care.... |
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Michael Troutman, Photographer
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Carmel | CA | USA | Posted: 9:09 PM on 08.11.08 |
->> CS3 still has it's place, of course. Nothing beats it for getting the most out of a single file, or for creating more involved (non-photojournalistic) works.
But the PM/LR2 combo is insanely good for prepping a few dozen (or several hundred) images for publication or client delivery. I can fly through projects and have an online gallery embedded in my website in a fraction of the time it would take doing it any other way.
The big sticking point (for me) with LR previously was the lack of a burn & dodge tool. Not only has this been addressed, but what Adobe has created works so well and is so unique that everything else does indeed seem archaic. The amount of control one now has in selectively adjusting exposure (and other tone controls) in discreet areas of the image is just insanely good. It's a far cry from the days of contrast masks and hand-shaping dodge tools in the darkroom like we used to do...
Best "new" software in a long, long time. |
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Michael Troutman, Photographer
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Carmel | CA | USA | Posted: 9:12 PM on 08.11.08 |
->> Mark,
Have you tried calling Adobe? There must be something unique on your workstation that they may be able to pinpoint and solve. |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 10:14 PM on 08.11.08 |
->> I'm going to do that right now. My wife said it's probably happening because of two words. The kids.....
Thanks!!! |
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Dan Barham, Photographer
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North Vancouver | BC | Canada | Posted: 1:13 AM on 08.18.08 |
| ->> Mark - I'm having the same trouble - very, very slow import with lots of beach balling since upgrading to 2.0. No problems with 1.4 previously, and I'm running a Mac Pro. Did you solve the problem? |
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Rich Cruse, Photographer
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Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 1:25 AM on 08.18.08 |
->> I found this tip on Adobe's Forums.
"2 Items that have improved my LR2 experience significantly:
1) Optimize Catalog (under Catalog Preferences/General/Relaunch and Optimize).
2) Adjustment Brush (Flow) - Lower the setting on the Flow slider (this controls the speed at which the effects of brush stroke actions become visible). When I lowered this setting from 85 to 30, my performance noticeably improved and the system no longer performed page-outs (the very slight delay between stroke and appearance is not significant for me).
iMac 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD2600 256MB "
Consider calling Adobe tech support if the problems continue. |
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Craig Glaspell, Photographer, Assistant
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 1:53 AM on 08.19.08 |
->> Since I changed my imports to MINIMAL, I notice way faster imports. And Rich, I will try the 'optimize' catalog function tomm. on my desktop (g5)..sounds like a good idea.
Thanks |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 5:07 AM on 08.19.08 |
| ->> I've tried everything and the imports are so slow I'm thinking of switching back to the older version. Never had this problem with 1.4, but 2.0 is crazy. I just tried to import 225 JPeg images from an external drive and it took over 45 minutes. |
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
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Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 9:47 AM on 08.28.08 |
->> To update what I said about Lightroom 2 being very slow to import from a catalog: I just tried importing into a fresh, empty catalog and it's massively faster--by at least an order of magnitude--than it was importing into a catalog containing 20,000+ images. Another variable is that my catalog with lots of images is one converted from Lightroom 1; I don't know if there are any inefficiencies associated with that. But, offhand, at least for importing from one catalog into another, the number of images in the one you're importing into seems to greatly affect speed.
In both cases, importing from CF cards goes quite quickly for me so I still haven't seen that particular problem.
I continue to really like the dodge, burn, and other local image manipulation tools and find myself using Photoshop quite a bit less these days. |
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