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Need major help!!!
Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 3:57 PM on 06.29.08 |
->> I deleted a folder of images by mistake and I was able to recover them using data Rescue.........However , when I go to open them in photoshop it say that photoshop doesn't recognize this type of file. They are CR2 RAW files from a MARK III camera. Any thoughts on how I can get Photoshop to open them? When I try to save them as a JPEG through Photo Mechanic it just produces a black image. Any thoughts??? I really need to recover these images.
Thanks.
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Matthew Rosenberg, Photographer
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Charlottesville | VA | United States | Posted: 4:06 PM on 06.29.08 |
->> Did you rename the files with the proper extension after the recovery. It has been a while since I have had to recover photos, but I remember that being a problem.
PLUS, backup the photos again before you start tinkering with them. You don't want to corrupt the files anymore by messing with them |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 4:30 PM on 06.29.08 |
->> You deleted the folder from a flash card? Or the hard drive of your computer?
If you deleted from the card and haven't overwritten the data, Photo Rescue or one of the other proprietary card recovering programs should work fine.
You say you recovered the CR2 RAW files but are trying to save them as JPEGs using Photo Mechanic?
PM as far as I know does not support converting RAW files to JPEG. |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 6:03 PM on 06.29.08 |
->> I had the files on my hard drive. I've been able to convert some files to JPEGS by using the save as feature in Photo mechanic. These same files I've been able to save as JPEGS in PM won't open in Photoshop as CR2 RAW files.
I did notice that the extension of the RAW files is now cr2 as opposed to the capitalized version that looks like CR2. Not sure if that makes a difference or not. I'll look into that shortly.
Any more tips?
Thanks.
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Jock Fistick, Photographer
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Brussels | Belgium | | Posted: 6:07 PM on 06.29.08 |
| ->> Which version of photoshop are you running? |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 6:48 PM on 06.29.08 |
| ->> CS3 |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 7:27 PM on 06.29.08 |
->> You're able to convert Canon RAW files to JPEGs using Photo Mechanic?
That's a new one on me.
If you shot RAW รท JPEG that's not coverting the camera RAW file ...just to be a little picky.
Recovering all of the deleted files from a computer's hard drive is a whole different story. If you've used that computer at all, you may have overwritten some of the files.
A hard drive recovery program like you already utilized should find what's not overwritten...partial files included.
Photoshop should open the files whether you have the extension or not I believe. |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 7:32 PM on 06.29.08 |
->> When I use Photo mechanic and view the RAW files there is a "save photos as" command under the file menu. I've been able to use this to make JPEGS out of the RAW files that Photoshop will or cannot open. Not exactly sure what I'm doing, but it has helped on some of the files.
I can see the thumbnails in Photo Mechanic for all the files. Some are obviously messed up as I have colored lines running through them, but others look fine. Very discouraging at this point.
Any more tips?
Thanks. |
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Alan Look, Photographer
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Bloomington | IL | United States | Posted: 7:56 PM on 06.29.08 |
| ->> Monty, saving them as a jpg through PhotoMechanic may change the file type extension to .jpg, but it isn't doing the conversion. The only way to do it properly is with software that will make the conversion. Try Digital Photo Professional. |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 8:12 PM on 06.29.08 |
->> I understand it's not the best way, but at the moment it's the only way on some of these files that I'm able to get any type of file that I can work from. I just can't believe Canon hasn't come up with some sort of program or some fix for these corrupt files. I've searched high and low on the internet all day for a fix and I've tried numerous things, but so far nothing has worked on some of these files. The files are from a Bat Mitzvah and it really sucks to be able to see them and not get to them.
I appreciate all the help so far.......I really do.
Thanks.
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Clay Begrin, Photographer
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Petaluma | Ca | USA | Posted: 10:31 PM on 06.29.08 |
| ->> Monty, I have used "RecoverPlus". The website for that application is http://www.arcksoft.com/. The cost is about $33.00 and I have found it recovers images from a hard drve, a CF card or other external media. |
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Matthew Rosenberg, Photographer
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Charlottesville | VA | United States | Posted: 11:11 PM on 06.29.08 |
->> Out of curiosity, what file size are the JPEGs from PM? I would bet it maybe stripping out the embedded JPEGs in each RAW file.
Things I would try at this point:
Make sure you have a backup of the original recovered files.
Rename the files with the proper extension for your camera.
Make sure you have the most up-to-date version of Camera Raw for CS3. You want to make sure it supports the files you are trying to open.
If they still won't open try running them through Canon's RAW converter.
If that doesn't work it may be the header info in the RAW file that is corrupt and we can talk about that later. |
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Juerg Schreiter, Photographer
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Fort Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 3:31 AM on 06.30.08 |
->> if you are afraid to run recovery software on a hard drive... copy the files onto a cf card and run a photo rescue sw on it.. that will probably do it ?
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 5:10 AM on 06.30.08 |
->> I have the recovered files on another hard drive at this point. I believe it is the header info that is messed up. I recovered what I could off the cards and from the drive in which I had deleted the photos from. I don't believe I need recovery software at this point, but software that can fix corrupt files.
Mathew, I'm all ears on any other steps to get these fixed.
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Juerg Schreiter, Photographer
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Fort Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 7:08 AM on 06.30.08 |
->> if the files are really corrupt, I can't see any sw to fix it.
What I would try - run the recovery again (where the files originally were- CF cards) with a different software than you used the first time.
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 7:45 AM on 06.30.08 |
->> Just to be clear.....The files where on my G5 hard drive I deleted the folder by mistake. No idea how that happened. I used Data Rescue II to get the files back, but most are corrupt. I then used Photo Rescue to get what I could off the cards, but the cards had been used again and I was able to get some images.
My biggest problem is that most of the files are corrupt. I think I'm past the recovery point, now I just need to figure out how to repair the corrupt files if that's at all possible. I would have to assume it is seeing how most programs can see the image within the file, ut so far no joy.
Thanks. |
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Scott Morgan, Photographer
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Rockford | IL | United States | Posted: 12:32 PM on 06.30.08 |
| ->> The Mac version of PhotoMechanic can convert Raw files to jpeg using the built-in image converter in Mac OS X via the Save As command. It's a function called Core Image that developers can use to process images. It's the same function that Aperture and iPhoto use when they process, only they have more controls than the default conversion. |
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Dave Breen, Photographer
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Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 12:59 PM on 06.30.08 |
| ->> When I've retrieved files using RescuePRO (a SanDisk program), they all end up being named "RAWxxx ". They are jpgs, even though the name implies otherwise. |
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Jock Fistick, Photographer
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Brussels | Belgium | | Posted: 6:46 PM on 06.30.08 |
->> ">> The Mac version of PhotoMechanic can convert Raw files to jpeg using the built-in image converter in Mac OS X via the Save As command. It's a function called Core Image that developers can use to process images. It's the same function that Aperture and iPhoto use when they process, only they have more controls than the default conversion."
Yes, but only OSX 1.5 and later has the image profiles for the newest Nikon and Canon cameras (D3 / MkIII). So, if someone is running a version of OSX prior to 1.5 they will not be able to use this feature in PM for D3/D300 and MkIII files - since the older versions of the Mac OS can't recognize the new raw files generated by these cameras. One workaround for those still on OSX 1.4x is to use the "Extract JPEG from RAW" option in PM - this will give you a full rez jpg file from the raw file. Not sure any of this helps Monty though :-/
If the raw files Monty has recovered are corrupted - then the odds are that any jpg files derived from the corrupted raw files will also be corrupted or missing data.
Monty - have you tried the "Extract JPG from RAW" option in PM? If not, you might get lucky with a few files if the embeded jpg preview is still intact. |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 10:50 PM on 06.30.08 |
->> Jock you ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!! The extract from RAW has helped on the first 15 files I tried.
I'll be doing more tomorrow morning as I just got back from a Casino grand opening and...........well, I had a little too much champagne and I don't want to mess things up. Great advice.
Jock you rock,Jock you rock,Jock you rock,Jock you rock,Jock you rock,Jock you rock,Jock you rock,Jock you rock,Jock you rock,Jock you rock
yee-haw
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Torrance | CA | USA | Posted: 11:35 PM on 06.30.08 |
| ->> But Monty, remember that extracted JPG is not full resolution with most cameras! |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 7:46 AM on 07.01.08 |
->> The file sizes are about 6.44 x 9 at 200 DPI. Not the best, but better than having nothing at all.
Thanks again.
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Jock Fistick, Photographer
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Brussels | Belgium | | Posted: 6:21 PM on 07.01.08 |
->> Monty - glad it has worked out on at least some of the files - best of luck with the rest!
Patrick - you get a full rez jpg file from NEF files from the D3 - D300 - D2X and D200 - but I have no experience doing this with NEF's from other Nikon DSLR's or with Canon raw files. My guess is that this is determined by the camera manufacturer - how large a jpg preview they have decided to include in the raw data. |
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