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Portable DVD Player Screen vs Camera LCD
Allen Lester, Photographer
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Norfolk | VA | USA | Posted: 3:48 PM on 03.21.08 |
->> Greetings,
Is anyone out there using a portable DVD player as an LCD screen to get a better take on images during a shoot?
Allen |
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Randy Vanderveen, Photographer
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 6:46 AM on 03.22.08 |
->> Allen,
This might be OT, but have you considered shooting tethered to a laptop? I've played with shooting my MkIIn tethered via Canon Remote Capture, dumping into a folder, and having Photo Mechanic display a "Live Slide Show" of the folder. Every shot I take is immediately displayed full screen on my laptop, and I can tag, rate, scroll forward and backward within the slide show, etc, all from within the show. Much easier and more accurate than relying on the 2.5" LCD screen and histograms to review and tag on the fly.
If I were shooting from a relatively stationary position (like covering a hockey game, shooting through a photo hole), this might be an excellent way to review and tag photos between plays, if I could figure out a place to put the laptop other than my lap ;) .
I need to come up with a way to make it work with a longer Firewire cable than the 4' one that comes with the MkIIn, for those situations (like studio shots) where having the laptop farther away would be a plus. Plus a longer cable would reduce the tangling up that can happen when shooting tethered.
Anyway, just a thought. |
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
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Belvidere | IL | USA | Posted: 9:32 AM on 03.22.08 |
->> It's an idea I have considered for a while... it makes sense to use an external LCD screen in several ways. Here is an old photo.net post about using a portable LCD screen:
http://photo.net/equipment/portable_lcd/
That article is a little dated, and since then portable DVD players (with built-in power supplies) have gotten very affordable. |
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Jonathan Castner, Photographer, Assistant
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Longmont | CO | USA | Posted: 11:19 AM on 03.22.08 |
| ->> I use one for the shoots where I have an art director/client who is on location with me but when we have lots of locations to shoot. I superclamp mine typically to either my tripod or a table and let them approve each setup before we go to the next. It's a lot easier than using my laptop. They seem to like it. |
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Mike Brice, Photographer
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 3:19 PM on 03.22.08 |
| ->> I just bought one for a trip with the kids, and I hope to be able to use this for previewing images as well. |
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Allen Lester, Photographer
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Norfolk | VA | USA | Posted: 10:13 AM on 03.23.08 |
->> Thanks guys,
There has been a time or two when a crazy shadow snuck into an image (only a time or two). Hunting and pecking around the small LCD things can run together. Discovering it after the shoot is too late, so I was thinking that the larger DVD screen would be ideal for taking a hard look at the image. It seems that it would work in the studio and many location situations. What started me thinking about it was a Target ad last week for a $70 portable DVD player. There are a lot of possibilities.
Allen |
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 11:22 AM on 03.23.08 |
->> This thread caused me to dig up a DVD player my kid has used. He long ago abandoned it due to its inability to play DVD's (it suffered in his then-12 year olds hands) but the screen appears to still function. The "video in" appears to be a mini-plug, but the video cord from my MkIIn has an RCA-type plug on its end. Can I just get an adaptor at Radio Shack to convert the RCA to a mini?
I connected the video out from the camera to our 42" Plasma HDTV and MAN did that not look good! I'm guessing the image will look better on a smaller, non-HD display. |
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
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Belvidere | IL | USA | Posted: 1:01 PM on 03.23.08 |
| ->> Dennis, yes, that should work just fine. In fact the DVD player probably came with a mini-to-RCA (x3) adapter. You'll probably be looking for a stereo-type 3.5mm (mini) plug with three contact bands on it, ending in three RCA plugs (audio left and right, plus video). Part number 55017063 should work with a coupler. It's possible that the Radio Shack cable won't be wired the same as the one that came with the DVD player (I don't know if that's an industry standard) so you may end up hooking your MkIIN's video feed into one of the audio plugs. |
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 1:07 PM on 03.23.08 |
->> Curtis - Thanks. SInce this player belongs to my kid, what do you think the odds are that he has ANYTHING that was packaged with it when it was new? :)
I was VERY fortunate to even find the AC adapter, as he had lost it long ago.
I'll wander down to my local RS and see what they have. Thanks again. |
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Tom Ervin, Photographer, Assistant
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Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 1:33 PM on 03.23.08 |
->> Hey Dennis
Maybe you can help me. Sometime ago I tried hooking my Mark II to my Powerbook with a 12 foot firewire with Canon Remote Capture.. My success wasn't as good as I hoped. The image was a thumbnail on EOS Viewer Utility and was slow.
So your saying that the image you take is immediately displayed full screen on your computer with no delay? |
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 2:28 PM on 03.23.08 |
->> Tom,
Yes - I set up Photo Mechanic in "Live Slide Show" mode, using Canon's Remote Capture to dump images into a folder set up for this function. You direct PM to monitor this folder and as soon as you take a shot, PM displays the image full screen. You can set up these Live Slide Shows to automatically advance or to only advance with the striking of the space bar.
I'm not sure how this would be done with Remote Capture and something like DPP, but gotta believe something similar is possible.
The benefit to me of using Photo Mechanic is that I use PM to sort and caption my images anyway, and while a Live Slide Show is being displayed, I am able to rate and tag each image - but I don't have to wait to do this when I ingest the cards - I can do it live, as soon as I shoot. This way, once I'm done (or between periods, halftime, between quarters, etc.), I have already tagged the images I want to caption and edit. Without using the tether and Live Slide Show, I'm having to perform this tagging function based on what I see on my 2.5" LCD, which isn't always accurate.
Hope this helps. |
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Tom Ervin, Photographer, Assistant
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Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 3:17 PM on 03.23.08 |
->> Hi Dennis
It's a live !! Dennis thank you very much for solving my problem.My hope is alive and working well. The images come up full screen and in less than 2 seconds
This is really going to help in shooting assignments. Correcting mistakes that would go unnoticed and letting project manager and subjects see instantly the image. I think in someway the bigger image will help in creating better ideas from everyone involved in the shoot.
Thank you again Dennis |
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