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RAW and Aperture

Steve Mitchell, Photographer

	West Palm Beach \| FL \| United States \| Posted: 7:12 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Has anyone experienced the NEF files not opening with Nikon D3 or the D300 using Aperture? I found it only works with Capture NX. No luck with Photo Mechanic or CS2 Thanks sm

Vasha Hunt, Photographer

	Opelika \| AL \| USA \| Posted: 7:39 PM on 12.28.07
	->> The D3 Nef file is going to be too new for CS2 - the newer Camera Raw plugins, with adaptability for newer cameras, like the D3, D300, Mark III cameras and 40d all require that you upgrade to CS3. I'd check the Camerabits forums for any issues with Photo Mechanic. Hope this helps. V.

Steve Mitchell, Photographer

	West Palm Beach \| FL \| United States \| Posted: 7:39 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Any other suggestions would be very much appreciated. sm

Steve Mitchell, Photographer

	West Palm Beach \| FL \| United States \| Posted: 7:41 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Thanks Vasha.

Cameron Davidson, Photographer

	Arlington \| VA \| USA \| Posted: 8:12 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Raw Developer (Iridient software) supports the new cameras as does the newest version of Capture One. http://www.iridientdigital.com/products/rawdeveloper.html http://www.phaseone.com/

Mike Brice, Photographer

	Toledo \| OH \| USA \| Posted: 8:21 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Lightroom 1.3 also supports the D3 and D300. Can't wait until Aperture updates to allow for it.

Steve Mitchell, Photographer

	West Palm Beach \| FL \| United States \| Posted: 8:24 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Thanks for all your help. I guess I'll download lightroom for now. Adios Steve

Cameron Davidson, Photographer

	Arlington \| VA \| USA \| Posted: 8:30 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Steve Check out Raw Developer - it is a kicking little program with a thirty-day trial. It pulls out huge amounts of sharpness from a file. Easy to use with great color, sharpness, highlight, saturation, contrast and tint controls.

Michael Brown, Photographer

	Roxburgh Park \| Victoria \| Australia \| Posted: 8:32 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Um I have Aperture and it works fine with the D3 Raw files. I updated it to 1.5.6. Also if you download ACR 4.3 for photoshop it should work as well.

Michael Brown, Photographer

	Roxburgh Park \| Victoria \| Australia \| Posted: 8:33 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Oh and it works fine with Photomechanic as well.

Mike Brice, Photographer

Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 8:53 PM on 12.28.07

->> Michael - really - I have Aperture 1.5.6 and it doesn't work.

i get an error - unsupported image format. Now I am on 10.4.11, so that may be the issue as Apple typically updates their raw support with the OS as opposed to the programs.

Can you let me know what OS you are using with Aperture and check the version. I am off to check updates now. However, I would prefer not to have to upgrade to the next cat just yet.

I have been using Lightroom and ACR.

Mike Brice, Photographer

	Toledo \| OH \| USA \| Posted: 9:01 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Michael - can you shed some light - because I just checked again both with my version of Aperture and the Aperture discussion board on the Apple site, and they say that D3 raw files are not supported. I would be interested in your set up. Mike

Steve Mitchell, Photographer

	West Palm Beach \| FL \| United States \| Posted: 9:15 PM on 12.28.07
	->> hmmm I get the same thing error unsupported images format. I am using Aperture 1.5.6. Well I just downloaded Lightroom and works great. I guess I'll wait for Aperture to update the for NEF's files. Thanks everybody sm

Mike Brice, Photographer

	Toledo \| OH \| USA \| Posted: 9:25 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Does anyone else besides Michael have the ability to use D3 files with Aperture?

Bob Ford, Photographer

	Lehighton \| Pa \| USA \| Posted: 9:29 PM on 12.28.07
	->> One other thing that should be noted about Photoshop and the latest version of Adobe Camera Raw is that it's only works with CS3. If you want to open your D3 RAW files in Photoshop you'll have to upgrade to CS3.

Steve Mitchell, Photographer

	West Palm Beach \| FL \| United States \| Posted: 10:01 PM on 12.28.07
	->> Bob love the chipmonk!!!!!

Michael Brown, Photographer

	Roxburgh Park \| Victoria \| Australia \| Posted: 6:45 AM on 12.29.07
	->> Sorry for the delay I have been asleep :-) Not sure about the Photoshop, as I am using CS3. Aperture 1.5.6 OSX 10.4.11 Photo Mechanic 4.5.3 Just checked my files I shot last week in RAW, they are definitely working fine. Though, it may have something to do with the fact that I have the latest Capture NX loaded (not that I have used it) which I got for free with the D3.

Mike Brice, Photographer

Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 7:06 AM on 12.29.07

->> Michael,

You are saying that you can shoot a RAW D3 file, and it opens in Aperture?

I understand that Photo Mechanic and CS3 work fine, but with Aperture, no one else seems to be able to open a D3 file with Aperture and it is not listed as support yet on the Apple Aperture site.

Are you sure they are not jpegs?

I also have Capture loaded as it came with the D3, but prefer to edit in either Lightroom or Aperture.

If you can, can you provide any additional details about the RAW D3 file that you can open with Aperture - is it 12 or 14, compressed or uncompressed?

Thanks

Mike

Paul Anderson, Photographer

	Münster \| Germany \| Germany \| Posted: 7:43 AM on 12.29.07
	->> I think the issue is Apple's ImageIO... http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=27396 http://forums.camerabits.com/index.php?topic=2471.0

Mike Brice, Photographer

	Toledo \| OH \| USA \| Posted: 8:16 AM on 12.29.07
	->> Paul, Right, that is why I am confused when Michael (Brown) says he is using Aperture to edit D3 files - according to everything out there, and everyone else who has Aperture, this just isn't currently possible.

Mark Peters, Photographer

	Highland \| IL \| USA \| Posted: 8:16 AM on 12.29.07
	->> I know it's a pain, but have you considered converting to DNG files first? I had a similar issue with CS2 not opening 40D RAW files, but if you convert them to DNG's it works fine - but it does add a fair amount of time. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3818

Kent Miller, Photographer

	Peekskill \| NY \| USA \| Posted: 10:09 AM on 12.29.07
	->> I just imported some files into aperture. They look fine in the import preview box. But after they are imported the files say unsupported image format. I used NEF files with no jpg. Aperture 1.5.6 Mac OS 10.4.11 PM works great as does CS3.

Steve Mitchell, Photographer

	West Palm Beach \| FL \| United States \| Posted: 10:26 AM on 12.29.07
	->> I guess the only thing to do is wait for Apple to release the update. Lightroom works great. Thanks sm

Michael Brown, Photographer

Roxburgh Park | Victoria | Australia | Posted: 6:02 PM on 12.29.07

->> OK it's official.....I'm an idiot.

The shoot I did, I did with 2 camera's. The D3 & D2Xs. As I import the images using PM and rename, the pics I pulled into Aperture were obviously from the D2Xs.

I went and took some test shots with the D3 this morning in RAW and guess what? They don't work!!

My apologies for leading you guys astray.

I haven't been using Aperture much lately as I am not overly happy with it's speed, and usability, so I hadn't imported all of the shots from my shoot the other day, and it was just fluke that the ones that I did import to check were from the wrong camera.

Though, CS/3, and Photomechanic do work fine with the D3.

Mike Brice, Photographer

	Toledo \| OH \| USA \| Posted: 7:58 PM on 12.29.07
	->> Thanks for stepping up and let us know. I was thinking you had some new version down under. And yes, PM and PCS3 do work fine, as does the latest version of Lightroom

Steve Mitchell, Photographer

West Palm Beach | FL | United States | Posted: 1:01 PM on 01.29.08

->> I was reading this on Galbraith's web today. RAW format update coming for Mac OS, says Apple product manager Tuesday, January 29, 2008
In a recent posting in Apple's Aperture support forums, Joe Schorr, Sr. Product Line Manager for Photo Applications at Apple, hints that updated RAW format support is coming soon to the Mac OS.

Following Apple company policy, he doesn't say when, or what new camera RAW files will be supported, though it's a fair guess that the Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III, Nikon D300 and D3 will be among those added and that Aperture, iPhoto and other programs that draw on this OS-level code to display and convert RAW format photos will be the beneficiaries of this update, when it comes.

The content of Schorr's January 23, 2008 post is below. The forum thread containing the post is here.

As I'm sure many of you know, it's not Apple's policy to provide a public "ETA" on future releases, so I can't post anything like a timetable for when support for the newest RAW camera formats will become available.

But I can tell you this. We at Apple are ACUTELY aware of the pressing need to get support for the newest round of camera into your hands as soon as possible. This is a top priority. We have members of our own team using these cameras, so you can imagine how interested we are in seeing this support integrated into the Mac OS and our photo applications!

We fully intent to give our customers what they need in this regard.

Thanks!

Joe Schorr
Sr. Product Line Manager, Photo Applications
Apple

Daniel Brayack, Photographer

	Charleston \| WV \| USA \| Posted: 1:04 PM on 01.29.08
	->> Will CS2 read a DNG file from a D3 (after conversion of course)? I assume yes right? Is there anyone here who DOESN'T convert to DNG almost immediately after keywording etc? -Dan

Eric Francis, Photographer

	Omaha \| NE \| United States \| Posted: 7:54 PM on 01.29.08
	->> I just found this.... http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9206-9248

Jeff Kowalsky, Photographer

	West Bloomfield \| MI \| United States \| Posted: 5:32 PM on 02.11.08
	->> Apple released 10.5.2 and now supports the following additional cameras: Supported by Mac OS X 10.5.2 or later Canon EOS 1Ds Mark III Canon Powershot G9 Hasselblad CF-22 Hasselblad CF-39 Leaf Aptus 75s Nikon D3 Nikon D300 Sony Alpha DSLR-A700 More on 10.5.2: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307109

Jock Fistick, Photographer

	Brussels \| Belgium \| \| Posted: 6:09 PM on 02.11.08
	->> and note the last paragraph of the article on the Galbraith site... "A parallel update for OS X 10.4.x, one that would bump up the list of supported camera RAW files in that OS version, hasn't yet materialized, and may signal Apple's intention to only roll the newest cameras into OS X 10.5.x from here on in."

Mike Brice, Photographer

	Toledo \| OH \| USA \| Posted: 7:19 PM on 02.11.08
	->> Interesting that it still does not allow Aperture to open raw files from the D3. And I have been using Lightroom for months to open D3 and D300 files. I think I would have to be overwhelmed by any Aperture update to continue purchasing a product that has left so many pros out in the cold.

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