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D3, Photo Mechanic problem
Tom Sperduto, Photographer
Edison | NJ | USA | Posted: 5:52 PM on 12.02.07
->> I just shot my first assignment with my new D3. I loaded my NEF images into Photo Mechanic and tried to "save as" my selects as JPGS and got this message:
"None of the selected photos can be saved at high resolution"
This is a big step in my work flow. I will likely have to save them in another program but that will add more time to my work flow.

Anybody found a fix to this yet?
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | US | Posted: 5:59 PM on 12.02.07
->> Kirk at Camera Bits probably doesn't have any sample D3 NEF files yet. If you post this on his boards (you should), he'll probably request a file to work with...

http://forums.camerabits.com/index.php?board=2.0

Delane
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Tom Sperduto, Photographer
Edison | NJ | USA | Posted: 6:00 PM on 12.02.07
->> Thanks, Delane. Posting now ...
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 6:17 PM on 12.02.07
->> They've been working on v4.5.3 for a while now, and the release date has slipped by a good six weeks. Gotta believe part of the reason is trying to incorporate D3/D300 support.
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Scott Morgan, Photographer
Rockford | IL | United States | Posted: 11:24 PM on 12.03.07
->> Are you using a Mac? I think PM uses Apple's built in image processing to convert raw files to jpegs. So you're going to have to wait until Apple updates before you get support for jpeg conversions in PM.

If you're using a PC, then with luck PM handles it, and they'll update soon.
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | US | Posted: 1:16 AM on 12.04.07
->> Kirk from CamerBits says:

"Photo Mechanic is not a RAW processor. On the Mac version we do take advantage of Apple's ImageIO to render RAW files, but if you're on Windows, we have no RAW rendering whatsoever.

That said, you can use the "Extract JPEG previews from RAW files..." command on the Tools menu to get JPEGs out of your D3 NEFs, but it still isn't a Save As command with all of its functionality.

-Kirk"




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Tom Sperduto, Photographer
Edison | NJ | USA | Posted: 6:50 AM on 12.04.07
->> I am confused. If PM has saved my D2X images as JPEGs, what's the difference now?
Sounds like I will need to wait for an Apple udate as Scott mentioned?
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Scott Morgan, Photographer
Rockford | IL | United States | Posted: 9:26 AM on 12.04.07
->> Apple built the Raw converter used in Aperture into the operating system so it can be used system wide in other programs like iPhoto. They let other developers use the converter too, which is why PM can use it to create jpegs from the raw files.

Just about every time Apple updates their OS to a new 10.x.x, they include new cameras to the list. Generally, it doesn't take to long after a new camera debuts, especially with cameras from Canon and Nikon, since Apple wants Aperture to be compatible with them.
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 11:21 AM on 12.04.07
->> For the time being I would suggest you shoot RAW+Jpeg for speed and convenience. Since PM doesn't actually allow any exposure and color tweaks to RAW files, its pretty much the same thing in terms of imaging parameters as a Jpeg straight from the camera.

This is one of the hazards of being an early adopter, in that frequently 3rd party software is not immediately compatible with the new RAW files. In the meantime Nikon's software will allow RAW conversions. I would hope some sort of RAW converter is included with the camera (not being a Nikon user I'm unfamiliar with what software Nikon supplies with cameras).
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Peter Hoffman, Student/Intern, Photographer
Athens/ Naperville | OH/IL | US | Posted: 1:37 AM on 01.30.08
->> I'm running into this problem now with my D3.
The workaround for me is to extract all jpegs then do the save as command.
Sort of a pain.
So, do I need to upgrade my OSX to get the Photo Mechanic to batch save .nefs to jpegs? Just want to clarify ... cuz I'm not sure I'm going to do that at the moment.
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Mike Brice, Photographer
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 7:47 AM on 01.30.08
->> You can't upgrade your OSX - Apple doesn't yet support D3 or D300 RAW.

Really you say?

Yes, hard to believe, but months after the release of the camera the Apple professional imaging program Aperture still doesn't support the top professional cameras.

If you want that, you'll need to purchase Lightroom, which supported the cameras right away.

Yea - I am annoyed.
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Scott Morgan, Photographer
Rockford | IL | United States | Posted: 11:39 AM on 01.30.08
->> You guys must have missed the posting on this exact topic on Galbraith the other day

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9206-9248

From Apple's Sr. Product line manager:
"As I'm sure many of you know, it's not Apple's policy to provide a public "ETA" on future releases, so I can't post anything like a timetable for when support for the newest RAW camera formats will become available.

But I can tell you this. We at Apple are ACUTELY aware of the pressing need to get support for the newest round of camera into your hands as soon as possible. This is a top priority. We have members of our own team using these cameras, so you can imagine how interested we are in seeing this support integrated into the Mac OS and our photo applications!

We fully intent to give our customers what they need in this regard.

Thanks!

Joe Schorr
Sr. Product Line Manager, Photo Applications
Apple"
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Jock Fistick, Photographer
Brussels | Belgium | | Posted: 2:34 PM on 01.30.08
->> OK - the geek in me needs some clarification:

I know that when you use the "Save Photo As" command in PM that you get some options to choose from such as file type and compression/quality settings etc - which you don't get when you use the "Extract JPEG Previews from RAW Photos" command.

I also understand that when the "Save Photo As" command is used - PM is using the OSX RAW converter to process the files (which at the moment is not possible with the D3 and D300 files).

So what is happening when the "Extract JPEG Previews" command is used - is PM just using the jpeg data embedded in the RAW file?

What I am trying to get at here - is there any difference in the quality of the JPEG file that PM generates in either case?

For example: (let's forget about the D3/D300 file compatibility issue for the moment) if the "Save Photo As" command is used to save RAW files as max quality JPEGS - will these files be better or different in any way than JPEGS produced by using the "Extract JPEG Preview command?

AND is there any difference in quality between allowing PM to Extract the JPEG Previews compared to the camera generated JPEG file when shooting RAW + JPEG?

Thanks for any insight!
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