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30D vs. 1D or 1D Mark II
Andrew Worrall, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | M0 | | Posted: 6:42 PM on 10.30.07 |
->> I'm contemplating dumping my 30D for a used 1D or 1D Mark II (If it's about 800). I feel like the autofocus points would be an advantage over the 30D, as would the extra fps, although that is less of a concern. I'm also wanting a more durable body (vs the 30D with the grip). My only hesitation in getting a 1D is the resolution being cut in half...and a Mark II in my range is almost impossible to find. Any suggestions/comments/ideas? And if you know someone who wants to give a student a deal, please let me know...
Thanks all! |
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Rodrigo Pena, Photographer
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Palm Desert | CA | USA | Posted: 7:11 PM on 10.30.07 |
->> If I were you, I'd keep the 30D and buy the 1D. The main reason to have two camera bodies, is if your camera dies (shutter blows or camera gets wet, etc.), instead of going home, you can still take photos. You probably won't find a Mark II for $800, but I hope you do.
If you already have two camera bodies, than dumping one of them to get the 1D would be my first choice. My 30D does fine in the studio, portraits and features, but it really lags in the sports shooting department. |
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William Maner, Photographer
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Biloxi | MS | USA | Posted: 7:26 PM on 10.30.07 |
->> Andrew... I'm an old dinosaur from the film era.. I bought a point and shoot Sony digital camera about five years ago. For the causal shots I was taking, it did (and still does) a great job. But being a 35mm shooter, I was used to fast autofocus and no shutter lag. Because I'd been shooting with EOS 1 and EOS 3 film cameras, I decided to make the entry into the DSLR arena.
I thought about buying a new 30D, but it just felt too "plasticky" compared to the EOS 1 and EOS 3. A digital Rebel was out the question.
I shopped around and managed to find a late model, low actuations EOS 1D.. It had less than 30K clicks. I paid $760 for mine.
I have not had a problem with it. It's very well made, it's very heavy and focuses fast and accurately. The only "drawbacks" for most shooters would be the 4.1MP capability and the fact that battery life isn't too long. Another consideration is that the "classic" 1D doesn't have a zoom review feature.
Right now, I'm on an extended hiatus from PJ work. I'm having a ball practicing with the 1D. I make a lot of mistakes with it, but at least I'm growing a little every day as a DSLR shooter.
I do check the various buy/sell sites as well as ebay. You can find classic 1D's in the $800-$1200 range. One of the members here has two for sale.. I think he posted his ad within the past couple of days. He was asking $800 for either camera. The mark II's run about $1700-$2200. I've seen the mark IIn's going for $2500-$3000.
I think if you got a classic 1D, it would still give you a lot of service as a dependable back-up or second body.
I really can't speak about whether the mark II's are a better value, they might be, but I'm satisfied with my classic 1D. The shutter count is at bout 35K. If Canon rates the shutter at 150K shots, I've got a long way to go before reaching that number. |
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Charles Baus, Photographer
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Palm Springs, Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 7:33 PM on 10.30.07 |
->> Obviously the Mark II is the way to go but if $800 is your limit then you might as well scratch that off the list.
I think Rodrigo makes a great point, you should always have a back up with you. I use two 1D mark II's.....before that, I had a 1D mark II and used my 1D mark I as a backup and before that, I used my 1D mark I and a 20D as a backup.
If you can afford to have two cameras, then get a 1D mark I and use it for all of your day sports shooting.....at night, you will probably find that your 30D would outperform the 1D since the higher iso on a 30D looks so much better than the 1D.
If you can afford only one camera, the 1D will be great for day time sports but the 30D will probably be better for portraits, night time sports...so you need to choose which would be more beneficial for what you shoot.
Obviously the 1D mark II is the best of both worlds and if you can afford it, I would buy that. |
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Andrew Carpenean, Photographer
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Laramie | WY | USA | Posted: 9:12 PM on 10.30.07 |
->> My suggestion would be to trade-in your 30d to a reputable camera store while it still holds a certain value and buy a 40d instead. Expect about a fourth of the price of when you bought it new. You're $500 away from buying a new camera vs. a used one that isn't even half the resolution for $800 or so. Five frames per second should work well for you and Canon has improved on several things with their latest mid-level market camera with better AF and color reproduction.
Wishing I had a secondary camera I have shot with only one body for the last ten years with exception to covering big events, but I wouldn't take a step down in much improved qualities to do so. I think in a few years you would be looking at getting rid of then two cameras that hold even less value trying to keep up. If a problem occurs with a used camera, lens or even a vehicle for that matter, you always wonder if it was caused from something a previous owner did to it. At least this way you know how you have treated your equipment, but also you have a year warranty if you should buy a lemon. |
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Rodrigo Pena, Photographer
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Palm Desert | CA | USA | Posted: 9:34 PM on 10.30.07 |
->> Be careful when doing your research on the 40D. From what I have read, some of them have the same focusing issue as the Mark III. I'm not saying don't buy a 40D, I'm just saying, make sure you do plenty of research first. From what I have read, the 40D is just a hair better than the 30D when it comes to the autofocus. Folks who have not yet used a Mark II or classic 1D, won't know the real difference between the pro series and the consumer series. For me the difference is night and day.
If I were you, the real answer is to continue to use your 30D until you can save more money and get a used Mark II or other pro-line series. |
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Brian Schneider, Student/Intern
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Clemson | SC | | Posted: 12:03 PM on 10.31.07 |
| ->> Bodies come and go, I would either save it, or put it towards a lense. |
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Gary Pirnat, Photographer
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La Mirada | CA | USA | Posted: 12:28 PM on 10.31.07 |
->> I have two 40D's, sold my 20D and 1D MkII for even money and so far have no regrets. 6fps, 10MP and the new focus system does well for me. I actually feel the 40D focuses the same or a bit better/faster than my 1d MkII did. I have only one camera body type to remember 'which switch does what' - when I'm in a rush that really helps. The DIGIC III processor is very quick and only on one occasion over the past three weeks did I have to wait for more memory before taking the next shot. Sooooo, the 40D may be the answer for you.
Gary |
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Anthony Soufflé, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Muskegon | MI | USA | Posted: 1:33 PM on 10.31.07 |
| ->> I agree with Gary. I played with a 40D at the Mountain Workshop two weeks ago and was very impressed. Solid frame rate, 10mp, decent build construction... if only they'd loose the pop-up flash... |
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