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Photoshelter launching something new...
Jack Howard, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Somerville | NJ | USA | Posted: 10:05 AM on 09.14.07 |
->> Aimee and I had an interesting meeting with Grover and Allen yesterday afternoon, regarding the Photoshelter Collection...
http://www.popphoto.com/photonews/4601
I'm excited about this! |
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
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Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 10:25 AM on 09.14.07 |
->> Woo hoo! This is great news!
Mark |
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 11:37 AM on 09.14.07 |
| ->> That is very cool. Nice job PS guys! |
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Alan Look, Photographer
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Bloomington | IL | United States | Posted: 11:45 AM on 09.14.07 |
->> Great idea.
Guess I'd better comb my archives... |
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David Collyer, Photographer
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Haleiwa | HI | USA | Posted: 12:21 PM on 09.14.07 |
->> Hmm, Maybe I'm confused on this...
I just made a custom site through photoshelter spending lots of time and money. I launch next week. Are they now competing with me? For example, if someone searches 'surfing' will it include my images or just the images in their special archive?
Is the goal to raise the level of images? To compete with corbis, etc.?
I do like that the pricing level is maintained, but concerned about the decrease in focus on the original photoshelter service/archives.
Someone straighten me out here. |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 12:32 PM on 09.14.07 |
->> David-
I don't think there will be a decrease in the focus of the "Classic" PhotosShelter...it appears to me that Collection will be BETTER images (a virtual agency if you will) with higher standards.
Right now...ANYONE can pay their monthly fee and archive images on Photoshelter...so you may or may not find QUALITY images. With PS Collection, the quality of images will be much higher...this editors won't have to wade through crap to find the image they need.
"images accepted by a team of professional photo editors" means better quality images...
"To submit images for inclusion in the Collection, photographers must fill out a brief application and upload three to ten images for evaluation by PhotoShelter’s editors. If approved, the photographer will be able to submit additional images for consideration"
I'm sure the guys at PS are busy getting ready for their Town Hall meeting in NY...but will chime in when they get a free moment...
Delane |
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 1:21 PM on 09.14.07 |
->> Sports, architecture, nature, news......what types of images should one submit?
Will this be limited to just "Stock" photos or will "breaking news/sports" also be accepted?
Just trying to get more info.
alex |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 1:26 PM on 09.14.07 |
->> officially http://www.photoshelter.com/collection
looks like a holder page, and there has been no official launch yet.
Hold your horses... |
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
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David Richard, Photographer
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Sheffield Village/Cleve. | OH | USA | Posted: 9:40 PM on 09.14.07 |
->> The New York City Photography 2.0 Town Hall Meeting was well organized and extremely entertaining.
Speaker Chase Jarvis brought a loose style while giving excellent advise - and did not suck (you had to be there.)
The other speakers were all concise and shared their preferences in dealing with photographers.
For those of you wondering if you should attend the upcoming 2.0 events, let me tell you this - it's not your typical seminar with drawn out sessions. The afternoon flew by and was packed with information from successful workers in our business.
The ending round table discussion was simply a flash-fire Q & A session loaded with info you can use.
Having recently exited the newspaper biz for a gig on my own -
I feel I'm a step ahead of where I was yesterday.
The announcement of the new Photoshelter Collection beta along with the plan of a $1 million intro/advertising campaign was icing on the cake.
Great job Allen and Grover!
ps - more than 500 attended this event. |
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 9:43 PM on 09.14.07 |
->> Photoshelter:
YOU GUYS (AND GIRLS) ROCK!!!!!
This sounds like a great way to let photographers get ahead a little bit. I can see this taking off fairly quickly, good luck and please keep us posted on everything that you are doing. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 10:32 PM on 09.14.07 |
->> It was really a great event with terrific speakers
I never had the chance to make it over to Allen and Grover to say hi, but I did meet Jack Howard.
GREAT event!
(and the sushi was great too!)
Debbie |
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Eric S. Swist, Photographer
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The Woodlands | TX | USA | Posted: 12:49 AM on 09.15.07 |
->> I've been playing with it online for a little bit now and it's great. Very easy to use and straight-forward.
I think its going to be a huge success. PhotoShelter has always paid close attention to the needs of the photographer, I feel this is exactly what the market needs right now.
Great work guys! |
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Fredrik Naumann, Photographer
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Oslo | Oslo | Norway | Posted: 4:30 AM on 09.15.07 |
->> This is what I was hoping for with Photoshelter. Almost! I was expecting a more proactive appraoch to the sales bit, and Photoshelter have delivered. And I am glad there will be editors editing, so the quality of the site is assured.
However: after editing, captioning, keywording and uploading approx 2000 images to my personal archive I didn't expect having to do some of it all over again.
Many of my images I can simply upload as directed. They are all done in folders on my computere. But many pictures have been given extra information or keywords through batch actions on the Photoselter site. So they will first have to be selected and downloaded from my site, then uploaded to the new site, using a different program. With the ability to simply share images to a Virtual Agency within Photosehelter, I am surprised there is no similar snappy way to get my images onto PhotoShelter marketplace.
Perhaps it is coming? |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 7:22 AM on 09.15.07 |
| ->> Fredrik...how do you know that there is "no similar snappy way to get my images onto PhotoShelter marketplace"? |
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Fredrik Naumann, Photographer
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Oslo | Oslo | Norway | Posted: 7:39 AM on 09.15.07 |
| ->> Delane, as I have a photoshelter account I have been on the new site, read the Submission Guidelines/instructions, and tried (and failed) to upload images. Likewise I have been on my "old" personal archive, but am unable to find any new buttons/links for me to send images to the new site, as I would to Sportsshooter VA or similar. |
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
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Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 8:15 AM on 09.15.07 |
->> Yeah, I can't find it, either. It seems like such an obvious thing I would think it's something they'll add soon. It does say they'll be adding a lot of functionality in the next few weeks.
Am I the only one having problems uploading? I'm getting DBQueryErr error messages on every file. |
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Fredrik Naumann, Photographer
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Oslo | Oslo | Norway | Posted: 8:44 AM on 09.15.07 |
| ->> I'm getting it too Mark. |
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David Richard, Photographer
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Sheffield Village/Cleve. | OH | USA | Posted: 9:26 AM on 09.15.07 |
| ->> After speaking to Allen Murabayashi at the Town Hall meeting in New York, I asked about simply transferring images from your personal Photoshelter account to the the new collection account. He said the new collection side of Photoshelter is in beta and a simple transfer from your personal Photoshelter account is coming soon. |
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Eric S. Swist, Photographer
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The Woodlands | TX | USA | Posted: 9:27 AM on 09.15.07 |
->> I don't get any error message when attempting to upload, however, the image uploads but then never actually appears under the "My Images" tab?
Weird. |
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Fredrik Naumann, Photographer
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Oslo | Oslo | Norway | Posted: 9:29 AM on 09.15.07 |
| ->> Thanks for that info David. That will will be useful indeed. |
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Jack Howard, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Somerville | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:56 AM on 09.15.07 |
| ->> FYI, also, there is not currently Photomechanic-based uploading to the collection. |
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Mitch Stringer, Photographer
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Towson | MD | USA | Posted: 11:58 AM on 09.15.07 |
| ->> I was there yesterday in NYC too. Great venue for a meeting. The Fillmore East has some classic rock performance images on the walls to see during the breaks in the meeting. Fortunately the Mandy Moore concert was the following day. Chase Jarvis was an excellent speaker and opinionated (in a good way). With around 600 in attendance, it shows that a well edited collection can create a powerhouse of stock images. I don't see this as being a live news competitor of wire services at this time, but we will see as it evolves. Kudos to the PS people. Well done. |
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 8:07 PM on 09.15.07 |
->> Hi Folks. We're getting amazing feedback from people already. Those of you who have been sending us notes -- thanks! The staff was here in the PhotoShelter office today working on stuff.
Remember to send us questions directly instead of posting it here in this message board. You'll always get a much quicker response that way.
Here's a few answers to some of the questions I am seeing in this thread:
1) Transferring files directly from a PhotoShelter Personal Archive to The PhotoShelter Collection is coming soon (could be within the next few weeks). It will include the ability to send all the updated metadata for those people who like to do captioning and keywording in PhotoShelter.
2) If you are getting a "DBQueryErr" you should send in a report using the contact form within The PhotoShelter Collection area. Some of these errors were happening early this morning as they were still putting the site live and have since been fixed.
3) Jack - that is correct. There is no Photo Mechanic upload, but you can still upload to your PhotoShelter Personal Archive using Photo Mechanic, and when the direct transfer feature is added in a few weeks, you can do a huge copy all at once.
4) Eric - There are several tabs along the top, and depending on where your images are in the approval process, they could be in a different tab. If you upload an image and it's not in any of those tabs, you should alert the staff by sending a note directly.
5) Mitch - did you catch the picture near the 2nd floor bar of Courtney Love, Michael Stipe, and Marilyn Manson? That was my favorite one. |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 10:40 PM on 09.15.07 |
->> Ouch...I just attempted to upload 10 images but all my D2Hs files are too small.
"As a general rule of thumb, you should not submit images if your camera is less than 6-megapixels."
hmmmmmmm..... |
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Clive Evans, Photographer
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Antibes | Cote d'Azur | France | Posted: 6:50 AM on 09.16.07 |
->> Grover
Looked for you guys in Perpignan,this would have be4en a great initiative to launch there for Europe...................I think a PS newsletter said you were attending?
The DRR folk had a booth.............
Clive
Antibes, France-West Cork, Ireland
www.clive-evans.com |
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 1:22 PM on 09.16.07 |
| ->> Hi Clive, a family medical emergency forced me to cancel my travel plans at the last minute. I would have much rather been staying up until 4am every night drinking beers with photographers, but family trumps beer (unfortunately!) |
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Clive Evans, Photographer
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Antibes | Cote d'Azur | France | Posted: 4:33 AM on 09.17.07 |
->> Grover
There was some good work around as well as the beer......................
Clive |
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Karsten Moran, Photographer, Photo Editor
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New York | NY | United States of America | Posted: 8:28 AM on 09.17.07 |
->> "An edited, open marketplace for commercial stock images. Free to join. Now accepting photographers."
Am I to understand that this is open to everyone, including people who currently do not have a PhotoShelter account? |
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
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Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 8:47 AM on 09.17.07 |
->> That's right, Karsten. I've seen some confusion about this elsewhere, too, but from the FAQ:
Is there a cost to join the PhotoShelter Collection?
No - it is free to join the Collection.
http://mp.photoshelter.com/mem/support/FAQ
Mark |
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Mitch Stringer, Photographer
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Towson | MD | USA | Posted: 5:18 PM on 09.17.07 |
| ->> Grover, its funny. I did see the Courtney Love, Michael Stipe photo. Hard to decide if Courtney Love looks worse now or then! Great program. Chase was inspiring. Just need to rent a chopper to shoot my next MLB game :-) |
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 11:45 PM on 09.17.07 |
->> Hi Karsten -- you are correct. It is free to join, no startup fees, no annual contracts, no monthly fees, and you aren't required to have a PhotoShelter Personal Archive subscription if you don't need it.
Mitch - I was thinking the exact same thing, and I've come to the firm conclusion that she looks better in that photo than she does today. (I got a second opinion on that too...) |
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Stanley Brewster, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Boise | ID | USA | Posted: 12:57 AM on 09.18.07 |
->> Nice to know that the Photo 2.0 meetings are being so well recieved since I'll be driving 400 miles to attend the one in Portland next Monday.
Hopefully they will have more info on this subject. It sounds very interesting and perhaps more of what I thought belonging to the 'SportsShooter VA' on Photoshelter would be. I was a little dissapointed that there was not a little more editing and marketing of the images on there. |
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 11:55 AM on 09.22.07 |
->> The first video from the Town Hall meetings has been uploaded:
http://www.photoshelter.com/citytour/index/video
It is from the round table discussion in NYC. (The video is over 1 hour long, and jam-packed with good info.) |
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Brad Mangin, Photographer
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Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 3:44 PM on 09.22.07 |
->> I just finished watching this wonderful round table discussion.
I urge all of you out there who have ever sold a stock image or ever plan to sell a stock image to watch this.
I urge all of you out there who have ever shot an editorial assignment or ever plan to shoot an editorial assignment to watch this.
I urge all of you out there who have ever shot an advertising assignment or ever plan to shoot an advertising assignment to watch this.
I urge all of you out there who have ever registered your copyright or ever plan to register your copyright to watch this.
I urge all of you out there who are professional photographers or ever plan to be a professional photographer to watch this.
Basically- I am strongly suggesting that everyone watch this. Seriously.
Thanks. |
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 11:48 PM on 09.22.07 |
->> Really cool, keep posting these will ya Grover?!!
alex |
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 12:12 AM on 09.23.07 |
| ->> We have a whole series planned... so stay tuned! |
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Clive Evans, Photographer
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Antibes | Cote d'Azur | France | Posted: 9:16 AM on 09.23.07 |
->> Grover
This is really excellent............are you briging it to Europe?
Any chance of being able to see the presentations previous to the discussion?
Best
Clive |
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Michael J. Treola, Photographer
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Middletown | NJ | USA | Posted: 10:25 AM on 09.23.07 |
->> Hi Clive - The city tour is running here in the states at the moment with no overseas dates planned. This doesn't mean we won't bring the show in the road its just right now we are concentrating on the existing dates... these are a ton of work to produce.
As far as the videos - We have a whole series planned as Grover stated. Some are in the can - and hours more tape are on the way. I have lots of video to edit and will be doing so over the next couple of weeks so stay tuned!!!
Tree |
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