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Canon 30D or wait for Mark III
Jim Pierce, Photographer
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Waltham | MA | usa | Posted: 9:44 AM on 08.08.07 |
->> I am need of another camera and not sure if the 30D is the right choice or wait for the Mark III to be fixed and available?
I have a mark II and a very used 10D. The 10D shutter could go at almost anytime and the mark II has about 100K of actuations, not sure if this is considered high but I am getting a little worried. I have Pop Warner coming up and one of my 10D shutters went during the shoot last year so I want to avoid this happening again. I had a backup 10D that I switched to and could have stopped having action shots taken and used the mark II if needed.
My thought was to pick up a 30D and grip and use this for all T&I to take the load of the Mark II and use it as a backup or as a 3rd body for action.
OR
Just wait for the Mark III but who knows when this will be.
How is the noise on the 30D compared to a mark II?
I know I could get a used Mark II for around $2200 or so but don’t want to go this deep since I will end up with a Mark III at some point soon.
Any input is appreciated!!
Jim |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 10:31 AM on 08.08.07 |
->> What does the Mark III do that you couldn't do with another Mark II? Is the difference worth the extra money?
My guess is another Mark II would be a better camera for you than a Mark III. The return on investment is greater.
What is $2K in hand worth? You don't have something else you need to buy? The camera is just a box and the differences are mostly marginal nowadays.
Surely there's a lens or a piece of equipment you need that would outlive use of a Mark III.
Certainly a 10D is worth replacement. No doubt about that. I don't like the AF of the 20D/30D and 5D. They just don't track focus like a Mark II. |
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Pedro Diaz, Photographer
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Miami Beach | FL | United States | Posted: 10:41 AM on 08.08.07 |
| ->> From my own experience, buy a proven camera, Mark IIn, will be the right move right now... |
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Brent Asay, Photographer
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Salt Lake City | Ut | USA | Posted: 10:57 AM on 08.08.07 |
| ->> So were can you still get the Mark II at? |
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Rodrigo Pena, Photographer
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Palm Desert | CA | USA | Posted: 11:13 AM on 08.08.07 |
| ->> I've got a 30D. I never use it for sports because I miss too many shots. I only use this body for weddings, portraits and the like. I love the Mark IIn that I use. I'd recommend the Mark IIn. |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 11:13 AM on 08.08.07 |
->> If you've got the money, why not go ahead with the MKIII?
Why spend money on something you plan on replacing with a MKIII anyway?
It's like buying a computer. You always want to get the fastest with most RAM and best components you can get to keep it as viable for as long as you can. You wouldn't to go out now and buy a PowerMac when the dual-core chipset models are out? Same on the Windows market -- you wouldn't go buy a reasonably fast single-chip Pentium computer when the Dual-Core models blow it away.
Why go with what is now sort of "old" technology in the digital camera races? Get the product that will remain competitively viable for the longest length of time.
I've been using the MKIII since they came out and the image quality is outstanding. The noise at high ISO practically non-existent (compared to other cameras) and the AF is improved with the firmware upgrade. And I doubt if Canon comes out with new components for the AF or another fix that they'll tell everyone who already has a camera that they are out of luck. They will take care of those units already sold and offer repair or replacement but I don't think the change will be to that great of an extent. |
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JohnPaul Greco, Photographer, Assistant
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Milwaukee | WI | USA | Posted: 11:41 AM on 08.08.07 |
->> I'm selling one of my MkII bodies..
2K, firm.. if any one is interested.. I'll have pics up tonight.. on this gallery:
http://www.pbase.com/john_paul/4sale
(I have to use it this afternoon for a golf tournament though) :-)
JP |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Karl Anderson, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Lubbock | TX | USA | Posted: 11:50 AM on 08.08.07 |
->> Brent, I just picked up a new MK II N at B&H, now they are out of stock.
Adorama.com has the MK II N in stock right now for $3,299.95 (no tax because you live outside of new york state)
Either sammys or roberts (can't remember) had it in stock a few weeks ago but it looks like they are out too. |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 12:04 AM on 08.09.07 |
| ->> Roberts may even have some refurbished Mark IIn bodies available. It's worth a call. |
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 6:31 AM on 08.09.07 |
->> What I find compelling about the MKIII is the high ISO performance. For anyone shooting low light action (HS football, gymnastics, etc.) this camera gives you something no other current body can. The ISO 3200 looks like clean ISO1600 and even the 6400 shots I've seen have been truly remarkable. I'm anxiously awaiting the first couple weekends of HS football shot by folks with MkIII's to see what they come up with (with or without flash).
There are other features that position the MkIII as the next generation of Canon pro bodies, but these aren't in the category of "must have" - they're "nice to have" features, IMHO.
Is it worth the approx $2,000 premium you'll pay over a used MkIIn (presuming Canon fixes the AF issue with the MkIII, and does so soon) or even the $1,200 over a new MkIIn (from what I read above, if you can find one) is a personal choice.
I personally can't see pulling the trigger on the MkIII until the AF issue is unequivocally fixed. |
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