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Which is quicker?
Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 3:54 PM on 05.03.07 |
->> Let's say I want to batch resize a bunch (thousands) of images. Which software is faster, Photo Mechanic or Photoshop? I'm wondering, b/c as I write this, PM is resizing 120 photos from a Canon MarkIIn (large fine) and it's taking quite some time. Would creating a batch resize in PS work faster?
All you event photogs out there please respond, especially the Exposure Manager ones. This is for a sports event I will be shooting this weekend, and I will be ftping my files in a "display only" workflow.
All advice is appreciated.
-sM |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 4:09 PM on 05.03.07 |
->> Photoshop runs faster if you turn off the palettes (press <TAB>).
Other apps exist that specifically handle resizing without trying to display them. You don't say whether you're on a Mac or PC, so you'll need to search for apps that are specific to the platform... and by the time you get one found and downloaded and figured out Photoshop will probably be finished.
I regularly use PS to resize my images. And have a pretty good sized action built that applies color-space, resizes, adds watermarks, saves two different size files to different directories, etc. I've redone it several times and have been able to wring more speed out of it, but, in general, there's no real good way to attack the problem that I've found yet, simply because PS isn't optimized for that task. It will do it but it wants to show you what it's done after each step, which burns extra CPU cycles to refresh the display. That's why turning off the palettes helps. Maybe building a first step that displays the window really small would help, since the OS then only needs to refresh a little window. Then again, that might cost more CPU time because Photoshop has to figure out which pixels need to be displayed....
Actually, the way I like to deal with the problem is to use RAW + small jpgs. I process the jpeg files for uploading, then use the RAW for editing. Photoshop really flies with small jpegs, at least in comparison to dealing with large jpegs.
As far as shooting for events, I kind of question the need for the largest file size the IIn can put out. Unless you need images the size of a bus you will usually only be needing enough resolution to handle 5x7, 8x10 and maybe poster sizes. You can do those easily with a original 1D, so maybe reducing the image size in-camera will help. That's your call and your mileage might vary. |
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Chuong Doan, Photographer
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Kansas City | MO | USA | Posted: 4:15 PM on 05.03.07 |
->> I've used Irfanview on my PC laptop to do batch resizing for large events before. Its a tiny program thats free http://www.irfanview.com/ and pretty useful as a plain old image viewer. One of the batch conversion options is to add a text overlay to your images so you could stamp your name and copyright to each one while resizing too.
I've never compared it to PM for this function though it wouldn't take much time for you to try it out yourself before this weekend. |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 4:22 PM on 05.03.07 |
->> LEt me add more info. I'm on Mac OS X. and I like the large files coming out of my IIn, in case someone does want a poster size image (24x36).
Do you think it would take less time to resize if the resize is 25%, instead of trying to make a 3400 px file into a 600 px file? Too many calculations, opposed to downsizing 1/2, then 1/2 again? Does that make sense?
-sM |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 05.03.07 |
| ->> PM on my Powerbook typically would resize 120 images faster than I could have read this topic and replied to it. On my dual G5, well it would be even faster. PS takes way too long. |
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Bob Ford, Photographer
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Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 9:24 AM on 05.04.07 |
| ->> Stew, have you thought about using iPhoto? I haven't used it for a while, but I remember being able to "export" photos from the library at whatever resolution I required. |
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John Plassenthal, Photographer
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Vandalia | OH | USA | Posted: 3:34 PM on 05.05.07 |
->> I have used 2 programs for batch resizing. Easy Graphic Converter and ACDSee.
Easy Graphic Converter is freeware which will not only do batch file format conversions, it will do batch resizing. I like it for video conversion because I can set 720x480 as the desired size and it will center with black bands the portraits. It's PC based only, but the price is right.
Batch will be faster from the stand point that you don't have to keep entering the commands to do the resize, however, the mathematical calculations to actually resize the images will be dependent upon the processor and memory in your computer. |
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Cameron Davidson, Photographer
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Arlington | VA | USA | Posted: 6:13 PM on 05.05.07 |
->> Stew,
There is a default in PM (not sure which version) that uses a slower method of processing the images. It relies upon the OS in someway.
Suggest you get in contact with Camera Bits, I had the same problem a while ago, called them, made one change, and PM was back to its blazing self. |
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Bob Ford, Photographer
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Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 10:15 PM on 05.05.07 |
->> John Plassenthal, did you mean to say that Graphic Converter is Mac only?
I just checked out their website, http://www.lemkesoft.com/, and it's showing Mac, and Univeral Binary options, but no PC. |
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Miles Vance, Photographer
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 1:04 AM on 05.06.07 |
| ->> I don't know how it compares speedwise, but for my photo gallery website, I use the free Picasa2 software from Google to re-size images for upload. I would guesstimate that a batch resize of 300 images (an average number per assignment) takes about 2-3 minutes. If you try Picasa2, you just highlight all the images you want, then tell it to Export (along with a location and image size). |
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John Plassenthal, Photographer
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Mike Brice, Photographer
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 9:41 AM on 05.06.07 |
->> Steve,
If you are using the display only workflow, and FTPing them to Exposure Manager, you don't need to resize first.
You can just select the images, select FTP, and in the FTP dialogue window you have the option of resizing them for upload. Set it to 600 pixles about 7 on the quality and 72 dpi, and it will resize and FTP as part of the process.
It's the fastest way to upload a gallery, and hardly any effort on your part. Just make sure you have a fast internet connection. |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 10:22 PM on 05.06.07 |
->> I've been doing some experimenting with Automator on Mac OS 10.4. It's pretty easy to put together a number of the steps needed to build various sized thumbnails, make contact sheets suitable for sending to the Copyright office, etc.
I'm trying to figure out how to do watermarks on individual images right now. Preview handles scaling, color-space changes, file-type conversions and a bunch of other things, and it's faster than using Photoshop, but it doesn't know about adding copyright notices.
As is, it shows some promise over using Photoshop for the same purpose. |
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Michael Springfield, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Smyrna (Atlanta) | GA | USA | Posted: 6:10 AM on 05.07.07 |
->> I have started using Lightroom's export to do my resizing. It allows you to apply adjustments and change the file type before the export and it is pretty quick. I recently resized about 120 RAW shots from a wedding, converting them to jpg in the process in just a few minutes on my MacBook Pro.
Michael |
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Scott Mallon, Photographer
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Bangkok | N/A | Thailand | Posted: 7:14 AM on 05.07.07 |
->> I use ACDSee - works great and would resize 120 shots in about a minute.
http://www.acdsee.com/ |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 9:02 AM on 05.07.07 |
->> I'm on MAC. so all these PC only versions of software aren't very useful I appreciate your input, but it's not helping me solve my issue.
From what I can find on google, Picasa2 is only PC. It sounded great though.
Mike B.>> You don't mention what FTP program you are using that you can resize before upload.
I'm looking at 25 gigs of photos here people!
-sM |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:23 AM on 05.08.07 |
->> Greg and Stew,
Using Apple's Automator with PhotoShop requires the Photoshop Action Pack scripted by Ben Long at http://www.completedigitalphotography.com/
This allows you to take advantage of a lot of PS functions (including watermark) through Automator including a Scale Image which lets you select DPI and then a size on the longest dimension -- so it sorts out Vertical and Horizontal making that easy.
Tie that in with other Automator-enabled programs and you have a great work flow.
I've experimented with a workflow that any image dropped in a folder -- say from an MKII using a transmitter -- will be opened in PS, resized 10 inches on the longest dimension at 300 dpi, IPTC information inserted, resaved and then sent FTP using Transmit to a designated server. Just playing with something that would work for a photog in the field trying to get stuff back to the office without having to stop and actually edit the disk on the computer and manually ftp -- just tag the ones to send and off they go. |
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Robert Irvin, Photographer
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 2:32 PM on 08.24.08 |
->> Liquor is quicker.
As the old saying goes. Grin.
Good luck.
I do my batch downsize in Camera RAW, and then make an action for a batch process to a smaller size if that's necessary. You can use Camera RAW to convert all you jpegs to a smaller size and have them saved in a new folder very easily. |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 2:39 PM on 08.24.08 |
| ->> Create an action in photoshop, resized and saved 25,000 images in about seven hours. |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 2:42 PM on 08.24.08 |
->> Should add, on a dual core PC max out n ram etc.. it will make a difference on what you are using to run the images.
I have no Mac's so can only give expeience related to using PC. |
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
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Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 2:43 PM on 08.24.08 |
| ->> I am happy using Lightroom myself in the export mode. It has built in options and you can make custom as well. works faster than anything else I have tried. |
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August Miller, Photo Editor
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Farmington | UT | USA | Posted: 2:44 AM on 08.25.08 |
->> tew,
What version of PM are you using? The latest version allows you to downsize images using the save as function or when you use the FTP function. It is very fast and I use it all the time on several MAC's at home and work. I suspect you are not using PM correctly or you have something set wrong or are using an older version. Contact camera bits who make PM and see what is going on. I have also used PS, but PM has always been faster. I also use Aperture which is a little slower than PM but works very well for processing RAW files into smaller jpegs. Good luck |
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