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Canon 1D MK III part 4
Rich Dennison, Photographer
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Parkville | MD | USA | Posted: 3:42 PM on 02.27.07 |
->> Does any one know the difference between the silent single shooting mode on the Mark 3 and the silent shooting mode on the 1D mark 1?
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Nick Wright, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Independence | KS | USA | Posted: 4:06 PM on 02.27.07 |
->> The mark one has a silent shooting mode?
But I was also wondering how that silent mode worked on the Mark3. |
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Dan Powers, Photographer
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Appleton | WI | USA | Posted: 4:08 PM on 02.27.07 |
| ->> I shoot with Mark IIn's and use the silent mode all of the time. Especially in court...it works great! You can add it to your camera using the software disc supplied with your camera. Adios...Dan. |
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Nick Wright, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Independence | KS | USA | Posted: 4:25 PM on 02.27.07 |
->> Okay I just tried the quiet mode on my Mark1 1D and I have to say that I'm not impressed.
I enabled the personal function. And instead of getting a quick snap. I get the snap and then a long drawn out noise. It doesn't sound quieter at all. Am I doing something wrong? |
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Dan Powers, Photographer
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Appleton | WI | USA | Posted: 4:29 PM on 02.27.07 |
| ->> It should sound a lot quieter. You should shoot with one camera with the quiet mode and one without side by side and hear the difference...Dan. |
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Rich Dennison, Photographer
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Parkville | MD | USA | Posted: 4:37 PM on 02.27.07 |
->> The 1D mk 1 in silent mode is pretty quiet for me. Just wondering if it works better on the mk 3.
Was the silent mode improved in the mk 2 or mk2n any?
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David Templeton, Photographer, Assistant
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Hammonton | NJ | USA | Posted: 5:13 PM on 02.27.07 |
->> The Mark III has a silent mode, that still makes noise but isn't as loud as the regular shutter.
HOWEVER you can exploit the new LiveView to be a truly almost-silent shutter. Just lock up the shutter once, and take all your pictures without the mirror swinging! The only sound will be of the focal-plane shutter.
FYI This might allow shots during, say, a golf swing, without having to use a P&S camera, and without their caddy throwing your cam into a lake. |
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Nick Wright, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Independence | KS | USA | Posted: 5:48 PM on 02.27.07 |
| ->> My second 1D is in the shop currently, so I don't have anything to compare to. Is there a sound recording of the different modes somewhere on the net? |
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Richard Heathcote, Photographer
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London | . | UK | Posted: 6:13 AM on 02.28.07 |
->> The 'slient shutter' isn't silent....it just holds the mirror up until you release the shutter button...it's been on canon cameras for years (including the eos1n film body)
I use it alot.... especially for golf. At the moment you have to set it via the canon software as it's a personal function, but the mkIII info said all personal functions will now be set on the camera, so no software..... |
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Nick Wright, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Independence | KS | USA | Posted: 8:07 AM on 02.28.07 |
| ->> Oh you have to keep holding the shutter button? I knew I was doing something wrong. I'll have to try it again. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
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Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 9:06 AM on 02.28.07 |
->> I am really confused by some of the use of the words "remote focusing" from other threads.
Some posters seem to be implying that you can tether this camera to a computer and, using the computer, manually adjust focus, with the camera physically out of reach. I don't mean change the AF sensor being used, I mean manually focus the lens.
Is that true? If so, it is indeed amazing. |
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Robert Catto, Photographer
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Wellington | NZ | New Zealand | Posted: 2:43 PM on 02.28.07 |
->> >> Some posters seem to be implying that you can tether this camera to a computer and, using the computer, manually adjust focus, with the camera physically out of reach.
No. The White Paper clearly states that it's manual focus only with live view - I think the mirror is up, blocking the AF sensor?
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James Madelin, Photographer
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AKL | Auckland | New Zealand | Posted: 2:47 PM on 02.28.07 |
| ->> no chuck... not true. you can check focus on the tethered computer by magnifying the live view but you still need to turn the focus ring on the lens by hand. |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 3:34 PM on 02.28.07 |
->> Sounds very similar to when I have my D2 cameras tethered to my laptop and I am able to focus, adjust exposure settings and fire the camera live in real time. They could also operate wirelesly in this manner, with the appropriate transmitter.
Blue Pixel's Reed Hoffman wrote an article on this for sportshooter in 2005, I imagine the new Canon will operate in a similar fashion.
her is the link to the article. http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/1368 |
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Mike Isler, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | US | Posted: 4:06 PM on 02.28.07 |
->> I've spent several days with the MKIII. As for remote focusing, you CAN remotely control focus via USB tether, or even WiFi. WiFi works also with Live View, which is pretty amazing to see. Autofocus does NOT work in Live View, however you can manually control the focus via software. There are buttons for small, medium and large focus adjustments in either direction via software. The lens stays in AF, and when you click to focus closer, you'll see the lens change its focus.
So, if you mounted a remote camera and focus was bumped somehow, you can correct it without ever touching the camera. Simply clicking the >, >>, or >>> arrows in software allow minute manual focus adjustments to your setup. |
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David Templeton, Photographer, Assistant
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Hammonton | NJ | USA | Posted: 5:32 PM on 02.28.07 |
->> Mike that sounds like the coolest f'in thing ever.
I wouldn't believe that if it didn't come from someone who actually did it. |
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Robert Catto, Photographer
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Wellington | NZ | New Zealand | Posted: 7:05 PM on 02.28.07 |
->> Oh. My. God. Wow, I've rarely been so excited to be so wrong!
That's crazy, Mike - but amazing. Thanks for the clarification!
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 9:19 PM on 03.01.07 |
->> Well, hold on a little longer boys and girls. I just got word that the release has been pushed back to May. :~(
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John Green, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Northern | CA | USA | Posted: 12:23 AM on 03.02.07 |
| ->> who cares |
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Jamison Hurst, Photographer
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Allentown | PA | USA | Posted: 8:47 AM on 03.02.07 |
| ->> Really, May?? I heard a couple days ago around third week of March. |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 9:14 AM on 03.02.07 |
->> Pushing a release back is a good thing. It gives them a chance to fix any problems that will be discovered between now and then that would otherwise be handed off to early purchasers to discover and cope with.
It's always exciting to see a new major technology release like this. But, you have to remember the track record and past experiences show us there are always some problems to work through. Early adopters get to experience those so be prepared. |
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Joshua Prezant, Photographer
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North Miami Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 9:37 AM on 03.02.07 |
| ->> STILL WAITING FOR THE WORD ON THE 1DS MARK3. Anyone??? Any word yet? |
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Gary Clark, Photographer
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Mill Spring | NC | USA | Posted: 10:02 AM on 03.02.07 |
| ->> what's the cost for all this new technology be and when will hit the shops? |
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John Green, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Northern | CA | USA | Posted: 11:40 PM on 03.03.07 |
| ->> I have heard the Mark III will prepare bacon and eggs for you if you work the early shift at your paper. I can't wait to get one |
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Mike Morelock, Photographer
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Greenwood | AR | USA | Posted: 1:14 AM on 03.04.07 |
->> The liveview is going to be a big big deal at the top end of things, big events, big organizations. I can see Sports Illustrated hooking these up like crazy and having a director sitting there in a central spot clicking off different remotes.
It also looks like a no brainer to hook the camera on a motorized tripod so it can be moved remotely, not just the focus changed. Wildlife you could mount it in a popular area for birds and fine adjust it to aim at a certain limb or whatever. Maybe you have a big zoom shooting the start of a horse race and then it turns to get them coming out of the final corner, or it shoots that corner then turns to get the finish. Nascar you could program it to go to this pit or this one when that team starts coming down pit road. What would be really sweet is if you could pre-program two different focuses. Surely there's a motorized tripod with a couple of presets, so maybe Canon will add the ability to program different focus. Then you could hit a button and the tripod would switch the camera from first base to 2nd and another button would lock the focus to that preset, or one basketball goal to the other etc. It just seems like more convergence of still photo and video.
Of course what all of this means is fewer photographers taking more pictures. Cheaper to buy a few cameras and have one guy running them all than have 5 different photographers doing it.
Everyone talking about the hail mary not working, hmm ya think someone will come up with a 45 degree mirrorbox that sticks on the LCD so you can see it when holding it up overhead or even down at the waist for that matter. |
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 10:36 AM on 03.04.07 |
->> No fair, no fair
The 1D MK III thread is up to 4 now, and we can't get a dozen postings to the Nikon D3 rumor thread.
Please stop so we can catch up! |
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James W. Prichard, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 2:03 PM on 03.05.07 |
->> Canon EOS 1d MK IIn:
Shutter Speeds: 1/8000 to 30 sec. (1/3-stop increments), X-sync at 1/250 sec.
Canon EOS 1d MK III:
Shutter Speeds: 1/8000 to 30 sec. (1/3-stop increments), X-sync at 1/300 sec. (with EOS Speedlites; 1/250 maximum with other shoe-mount flashes, and up to 1/60 with studio strobes)
Why is the MKIII limited to 1/60 with studio strobes? |
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Howard Curtis Smith, Photographer
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Easton | PA | USA | Posted: 3:41 PM on 03.05.07 |
| ->> James, some strobe units take a very long time to fire their full output. The 1/60 that Canon is referring to is probably to cover owners of those types of strobes. The limiting factor in this case is the strobe unit, not the camera. |
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Max Gersh, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 4:06 PM on 03.05.07 |
| ->> Why did Canon get rid of he 1/16,000 sec. shutter speed and the 1/500th of a sec sync? Was there a problem in the original 1d that caused them to get rid of those features? |
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Scott Schupbach, Photographer
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Fenton | Mi. | U.S.A. | Posted: 4:30 PM on 03.05.07 |
| ->> The original 1D was a electronic CCD shutter.The Markll's CMOS sensor limits the flash sync to 1/250th.I beleive it is a limitation of the sensor and mechanical shutter combination. |
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 5:46 PM on 03.05.07 |
->> you guys didn't stop
we haven't even completed one full thread
not fair |
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Howard Curtis Smith, Photographer
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Easton | PA | USA | Posted: 10:37 PM on 03.05.07 |
| ->> But Walter you are just making our thread even longer;) |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 6:01 AM on 03.06.07 |
| ->> Or they are out shooting. |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 2:14 PM on 03.06.07 |
->> "Was there a problem in the original 1d that caused them to get rid of those features?"
Yes. Too many people complained that the battery life on the 1D MkI wasn't good enough and that they wanted lower noise at high ISO. As a result the CCD got canned and was replaced by the CMOS sensor. They got what they asked for, but they didn't realize we'd all lose higher-speed sync and the faster shutter speeds. |
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Jim Leary, Photographer
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Staten Island | NY | USA | Posted: 3:41 PM on 03.12.07 |
| ->> I'd like to ask a favor of all you lucky son-of-a-guns about to buy the new Mark III as it comes to the shelves....Take care of it, please! Just remember that 12-18 months down the line, the Mark IV will be introduced and what was once your impressive new Mark III with all it's cool new features will suddenly be replaced and so much less impressive to you. To those of us unable to make our annual $2000 contribution to the Canon fund by selling off our year-old cameras for half the original price, adding $2000-2500 and buying the new one, we plead with you to care for your Mark IIIs. Yes, it seems like just yesterday I bought a "lightly" used mark II and got all excited about my "New" canon camera body - oh, wait a minute - that was yesterday. Yes indeed, all that excitement and anticipation all of you guys experienced two years ago is now mine to enjoy as I use my new Mark II for the very first time. I am so grateful to the previous owner for taking such good care of it. With only about 30,000 actuations and not a sign of any scratches or wear spots I have my beautiful new camera and I am quite content with it, but we must rely on all of you to do the same again this year with your Mark IIIs. So, as you go to your assignments allowing your cameras to swing from your shoulders, please remember us, the next owners and don't let those sparkling new Mark III bodies bang or rub too hard against the wall or ground. We're counting on you! |
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