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Color problems?
Nick Wright, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Independence | KS | USA | Posted: 6:25 PM on 01.09.07 |
->> Interesting problem I'm having.
I took a photo. Looks fine in DPP. Convert and open in LightZone or Photoshop the subject looks purple when it's supposed to be blue.
Upload a shot to Flickr, guess what? Shot looks fine.
I use Spyder to calibrate my monitor. I'm using all sRGB profiles etc.
What am I doing wrong here?
Here's the photo in question. The bike rack is supposed to be light blue (as it appears to be on my monitor).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/phojonick/352157576/ |
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 7:06 PM on 01.09.07 |
->> Shooting jpeg with the sRGB profile right?
Letting the camera do all the work of post-production, right?
Something is out of sync. Did you update the monitor profile in PhotoShop's Color preferences?
Need to know more about how you set up the color preferences in each program. |
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Nick Wright, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Independence | KS | USA | Posted: 10:35 PM on 01.09.07 |
->> Hmmm ... the shot I uploaded now looks fine to me on screen. The first several I tried to work all still look purple.
Is it possible to get a color "stuck" in your head and see it in photos when it isn't there? Or am I just going insane? (going? someone's sure to comment)
I suppose I was also trying to work it about sundown and there was probably a good deal of sunlight coming through my window here. I know ambient light can change how I perceive color on my screen.
Thanks though. |
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Nick Wright, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Independence | KS | USA | Posted: 11:24 PM on 01.09.07 |
->> Okay, I lie. It wasn't totally solved.
But I was playing around with DPP and found where you set your monitor's color profile.
I set that properly and viola the pictures coming out purple in my other programs look purple in DPP! Imagine that. |
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 10:17 AM on 01.10.07 |
->> Perhaps your monitor is not quite calibrated as you might think.
By the way, not that the camera's LCD is accurate for judging colors, but how does the shot look on your camera?
Have you tried a color correction in PhotoShop for an experiment? |
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Nick Wright, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Independence | KS | USA | Posted: 12:25 PM on 01.10.07 |
->> Okay ... figured some other things out.
I think the problem was that I was playing around with the picture styles in DPP.
I was trying to set it to "landscape" because I like the saturated colors that style gives. When I do that, the rack comes out purple. When I set it to standard or faithful, the rack comes out properly.
So I guess that picture style doesn't like that color blue.
Walter, the shot looked as close as can be expected from a camera LCD. |
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Andrew Wilz, Photographer
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Aspen | CO | usa | Posted: 12:34 PM on 01.10.07 |
->> try selecting "view-Proof Setup- Monitor RGB"... if you're calibrated.. i think you need to tell CS2 that you're using a monitor profile... (at least i have to, on my PC).
ctrl Y |
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 12:47 PM on 01.10.07 |
->> Nick
Sounds like you're onto a solution.
We know the colors in the camera were correct.
Never had much faith in "pre-sent" color spaces on my film scanning software. |
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Marc Browning, Photographer
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Wichita | KS | | Posted: 1:50 PM on 01.10.07 |
| ->> Ok, I have one for all of you. I'm using a Macbook pro & Macbook. I just bought a 20D (I know I'm a Nikon shooter, more on that later) I shoot all my camera's on Abode RGB & use pre set white balance with a expodisc. The problem is on my Macbook, Blue uniforms look very purple, but only from the canon. My Nikon's are perfectly blue. The color is also correct on my Macbook pro from both camera's. The problem happens with both photo mechanic & photoshop (CS3 & CS2). So it tells me something is not set right in my Macbook. Any ideas? |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Samuel Lewis, Photographer
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Miami | FL | USA | Posted: 6:23 PM on 01.10.07 |
->> Nick, it sounds like you're seeing the difference between sRGB and Adobe RGB color spaces. From what I understand, Flickr, Shutterfly and others convert Adobe RGB images to sRGB (and in converting from a wider color space, you end up losing some tones and the result may appear as a color shift). Even if they aren't, note that even with a calibrated monitor, looking at an image with a web browser may result in the image being displayed with somewhat different colors.
I noticed this with Firefox and Safari. Images look fine on screen with Photoshop and in Photo Mechanic, but the color is different in the web browser. It had to do with the fact that the browser didn't understand how to handle the Adobe RGB color space.
For kicks and giggles, you should try using Photoshop's option for converting color space, and manually convert the image to sRGB before uploading to the web. If nothing else, that may give you some control over how the conversion takes place, and my guess is the resulting image will appear more like the image seen with a web browser via Flickr.
Marc,
You didn't mention whether you had calibrated the monitors on the Macbook and Macbook pro. My experience with a Powerbook G4 and then a MacBook Pro is that neither display was properly calibrated (and according to the folks who make the Spyder calibration software, the brightness on the old Powerbook is not sufficient to properly calibrate the display on that system). Apple's simple calibration setup is really not sufficient if you want to properly calibrate the display.
One final point worth noting. Part of the monitor/display calibration process takes into account the perceived brightness of the display. If the light hitting the display changes--which it commonly does with a notebook computer that may be carried from one event to the next--then arguably the display will need to be re-calibrated (although I believe the Huey calibration device may address this problem). Personally, I don't know anyone who re-calibrates at every location.
Even if the white balance on every shot is perfect, viewing the image on a monitor that has not been calibrated may give the viewer the false impression that the color balance is off. |
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