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Lightroom Beta roll out for Windows
Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Andrew Wilz, Photographer
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Aspen | CO | usa | Posted: 12:38 AM on 07.19.06 |
| ->> damn.. you beat me to it.. |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 12:42 AM on 07.19.06 |
| ->> Go to the downloads link at the top of the page in the grey bar. Then login and this will get you to the appropriate page. The main page I've linked to above is not up to date and will probably be updated tomorrow. |
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Tony Donaldson, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 12:52 AM on 07.19.06 |
| ->> Careful, I've read reports of crashing already... |
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Andrew Wilz, Photographer
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Andrew Wilz, Photographer
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Aspen | CO | usa | Posted: 1:11 AM on 07.19.06 |
->> OMG.. Lightroom is SIIIIIIICK!!!.....
Looks like tonight's gonna be an all-nighter with a new toy!
Haven't had any issue with crashing, but it's maxing out my processors.. I'm on a SCREAMING HP super-lap-top, and it's working it PRETTY HARD.... Seems to be RAM intensive, as well as Processor taxing.
...but WOW... this this is pretty powerful. LOVE the side-by-side before and after views of RAW conversions while editing.
SICK!
(thanks for making us wait a year for this Adobe....) |
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Andrew Wilz, Photographer
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Aspen | CO | usa | Posted: 1:17 AM on 07.19.06 |
->> Oh -mah -GOD...
I'm like TOTALLY FREAKING OUT!!!!!
(....heeeaaavy valley girl accent.... )
This program is WAAAAYYYYYY toooo coolll...... |
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Andrew Mo, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Manhattan Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 1:46 AM on 07.19.06 |
| ->> Working... |
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Justin Deeley, Photographer
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Noble Park | VIC | Australia | Posted: 1:58 AM on 07.19.06 |
->> I'm keen to have a look but can't even get it to load on my shiny new Toshiba Dual Core beastie.
I think it's something to do with the way home drives are mapped to a network drive so we'll see if I ghave any success on the home machine.
Here's hoping! |
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Andrew Mo, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Manhattan Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 2:19 AM on 07.19.06 |
->> A helpful observations before it gets asked:
Q: Where do my library pictures get stored ?
A: For a typical Windows installation, the pictures stored in your library are located at the following file-path:
C:Documents and Settings{username}My DocumentsMy PicturesLightroomPhotos
Where {username} is a placeholder for your Windows XP user name. |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Manchester | NH | USA | Posted: 4:37 AM on 07.19.06 |
| ->> Andrew Wiltz don't crap your pants. |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Manchester | NH | USA | Posted: 4:38 AM on 07.19.06 |
| ->> *Wilz |
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David Johnson, Photographer
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Andrew Wilz, Photographer
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Aspen | CO | usa | Posted: 10:14 AM on 07.19.06 |
->> Corey...
TOO late...
Andrew Mo: You don't have to re-save photos or move them. Lightroom can do a library-addition that only catalogues files' information, but not the actual file, if you tell it to do it that way. Thus, you can preserve the ability of existing prograpms to locate image files on your HDs...
So.. when you go to set up your import into a shoot or collection... when the window opens that has your import-info... at the top, it asks if you want to "reference files in existing location"...
If you select that... then you aren't sucking up more valuable HD-space with moving/copying images... and you can still locate them with any other image editing software programs you may use. (or in case you decide you don't want to use Lightroom anymore. |
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Chris Ivin, Photographer
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Sydney | NSW | Australia | Posted: 12:40 AM on 07.20.06 |
| ->> can anyone see how to quickly develop a single or multiple RAW images to JPGs, or has that functionality been left out in the BETA ? I can see the Ctrl-E which sends the image to Photoshop but this isn't really what I'm after. |
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Wesley Putt, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Elkins | AR | USA | Posted: 1:02 AM on 07.20.06 |
->> Have any PC users found lightroom to be faster than PM in loading files?
I'm in the process of switching to a RAW-only workflow, but I'm still working out the kinks. On my "streamlined" PC, which has a P3 processor and a gig of RAM, PM flies.
Keep in mind that I'm processing 3MB (raw) files from a Canon 1D.
-w |
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Michael Strong, Photographer
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Lubbock | TX | USA | Posted: 11:58 AM on 07.21.06 |
| ->> I just downloaded the PC Beta with the sample slides, and I think it's great so far. I have dual 20" Dell flat screens, and it takes advantage of both monitors. I've been using PM for well over a year, and this beta definately has my attention. I can see myself switching over to it. |
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Michael Strong, Photographer
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Lubbock | TX | USA | Posted: 9:59 AM on 07.24.06 |
| ->> I thought I would update this thread a little after using lightroom some more over the weekend. What I've noticed is that PM still seems to be faster in browsing raw files. Lightroom is without a doubt a resource hog. My system is an AMD 3200 x64 w/ 1GB Ram. I'm planning on adding another 1GB of ram for various reasons. That should help improve the overall performance of lightroom. Hopefully future PC releases will improve upon the performance, etc. |
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
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Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 2:14 PM on 07.24.06 |
->> For all those obsessing one way or another about the speed and resource use of Lightroom, Adobe makes it clear in the Read Me file for the beta release that they aren't where they would like to be yet speed-wise, and a few other acknowledgments about speed and resource use.
Remember, this is a "beta" edition and as those things go, a pretty rough one at that. I wouldn't make too many judgments about useability just yet.
From what I've seen, this looks promising, if they can deliver reasonable performance. |
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Felix Marquez, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Bethesda | MD | USA | Posted: 2:38 PM on 07.24.06 |
| ->> I will have to agree that it looks promising but it has a long way to go. I have been using RAWSHOOTER Premium and RAWshooter essentials for the last year and they are both still far better than the beta version of Lightroom. In otehr words I can do more and 30 times faster with the software that Lightroom has/is replacing( On identical/similar XP laptop machines P4 3.0 GHz 1GB RAM 120GB HD )... F |
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Ed J. Szalajeski, Photographer
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Portland | ME | USA | Posted: 2:49 PM on 07.24.06 |
->> I tried it, and already have better software, PhotoMechanic.
What can this software do that photo mechanic can not do?
EJ |
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Matt Barton, Photographer
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Lexington | KY | USA | Posted: 4:15 PM on 07.24.06 |
| ->> Mechanic is a great program but it can't handle raw conversion. I suppose lightroom won't seem very impressive if you never leave jpeg town. |
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Chuong Doan, Photographer
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Kansas City | MO | USA | Posted: 5:47 PM on 07.24.06 |
| ->> PM is faster reading RAW files because its displaying the embedded jpgs. I don't think its converting the RAW files on the fly. |
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Carl Auer, Photographer
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Eagle River | AK | USA | Posted: 3:00 PM on 07.25.06 |
->> I have been playing with the Windows version of Lightroom since it was released and have come up with a couple observations.
1. I like the layout. It is easy to use, and it is easier to screw RAW photos up.
2. It creates a copy of your photo in tif format. It allows you to do whatever you can do to a RAW file with a jpg (very cool), but when you transfer that jpg to Photoshop, it creates a TIF out of it and saves it to your computer. Working on my laptop with it, I found my self out of hard drive space very quickly. I would like to see them save the information as recipes instead of making copies of the file. So, when you open up Lightroom, it applies the recipe to what you are seeing, but not the original file.
3. It is a hog. But, I have found it much better than bridge. In fact, I would like to see them incorporate the ability to see other files into it, like pdf's the way bridge does and then replace bridge with Lightroom.
4. Needs to go a long way in IPTC info. PM is still much better for that.
5. It may be me and my misunderstanding of what the heck I am doing, but it really does not seem to like 1D Raw files. I have opened 20D, 1D, Xt, original Rebel, and 1DmkII files in it, and the 1D WB gets screwed up. They look fine in Capture One and in DPP, but I have always had issues with the 1D RAW files in ACR and now in Lightroom. Get a greenish orange cast to them. Maybe if I used a color calibration color picker thing and calibrated Lightroom to my camera, it would be ok, but I have not done that.
6. It has crashed on my 2 times, last night.
Overall, I think it blows bridge away, but for 1D RAW images for sports, I will stick with DPP for conversion, and for other images, Capture One is good for me. I can not see running out to buy this when it is released, but would not turn it down if it was incorporated into the CS3 release, which, in my opinion, would be a great marketing idea for Adobe. Why buy Aperture if Lightroom comes with Photoshop for free?
Oh, and once Lightroom imports the photos and gets them all in the cache, it does browse very quickly, but if I keep using it, I will probably want to pick up two more gigs of memory. Oh...I do really like the editing control with JPGs and curves are even easier to work with in Lightroom, but even as a Beta (1) Windows release (Beta 3 overall) I think it still has a long way to go. |
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