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Marc Browning, Photographer
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Wichita | KS | | Posted: 3:37 PM on 07.01.06 |
->> I'm not happy with what photo mechanic has become in the last few months. Is there any other program That i should be looking at? I would like it for an intel mac & PC.
Any idea's. Hows iview pro? |
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Will Duncan, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Johnson City | TN | USA | Posted: 5:25 PM on 07.01.06 |
->> I like iView...it is what I am using right now. Microsoft purchased it last week, which makes me a little worried about its future.
Most people I meet that bash iView is because it's a catalog system, which takes some getting used to. Saving your edits just must be too much work these days.
Anyways, it has a loot of cool features, interface is nice, and PM started giving me issues, so I figured I would try something new. |
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Marc Browning, Photographer
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Wichita | KS | | Posted: 6:08 PM on 07.01.06 |
| ->> Thanks, I've downloaded it & will try it for the next week. |
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Kirby Yau, Photographer
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El Cajon | CA | USA | Posted: 7:37 PM on 07.01.06 |
| ->> Marc, I've been using Aperture and I'm really liking it. But it doesn't help you out on the PC side. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 8:02 PM on 07.01.06 |
->> Marc,
what exactly don't you like about Photo Mechanic? I use it and love it and Kirk over at CameraBits is terrific with helping us photographers along. Perhaps give him a call-he may be able to help you out with whatever problems you are having.
Debbie |
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Thierry Gourjon, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 8:10 PM on 07.01.06 |
->> Marc,
Out of curiosity, would you care to elaborate on your initial statement: "I'm not happy with what photo mechanic has become in the last few months." Just wondering what are the specific issues you have with the later versions of PM?
T. |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 10:00 PM on 07.01.06 |
->> Yes, just what has it become? I have not had any issues with photomechanic, is there something that we should be wary of?
Thanks for any info. |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 1:33 AM on 07.02.06 |
| ->> I actually like Photo Mechanic because it's focused on supporting a professional workflow rather than becoming bloatware like some of the Pro/Consumer software. That for me is why ACDSee is no longer appealing. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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New England | | USA | Posted: 5:18 AM on 07.02.06 |
->> Just curious, what has Photo Mechanic become?
I started using Photo Mechanic when it was the AP Photo Viewer as a PS Plug-In. The transformation of PM from a simple viewer to a professional editing program which is designed specifically for professional editing needs has been fantastic.
I still use an older version of PM, 3.2.6, for daily editing because I used to my old work flow, but I also have (and use) PM 4.3.8 and love it.
As has been stated above, Camera Bits has fantastic customer support. When there is a problem call 'em and they can sort it out quickly and effeciently. |
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Marc Browning, Photographer
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Wichita | KS | | Posted: 9:57 AM on 07.02.06 |
->> I've been emailing back & forth with Kirk, on some of my problems.
What I don't like is with the newer versions, you can't overwrite files, it's made a lot of rework for me. He's said he will look into makeing overwrite an option.
I can't get it to copy & paste with a mac,found out it is a mac. thing. So I 'm still learning how to us a mac. & it's slowing down my workflow.
I still think he has the best editing program out there, But I just saw some changes taking place & was looking at keeping my options open... Like i'm still looking at Aperture, as Abode is dragging there feet on makeing there photoshop work faster( better) on a intel mac. For that note I'm a lillte upset that Nikon doesn't know if they will make capture for a intel mac, to me that should be a no brainer!!!!
To make a long story story short, if a company isn't going to step up to the plate & stay up to date, then my money's goes to someone who can. I'm here to make money, not to help the slow companys make my life harder then it already is. Don't get me wrong I think this a one of the best jobs to have in this country, but there are a lot of easier ways to earn a living!
Thanks Marc |
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Gray Quetti, Photographer
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Jacksonville | Fl | USA | Posted: 10:18 AM on 07.02.06 |
->> "To make a long story story short, if a company isn't going to step up to the plate & stay up to date, then my money's goes to someone who can".
Sounds a little harsh to me considering how hard Camera Bits and Kirk work to keep this software the best editing software out there. If you find another software company that gives you the same support let us know. This software can't be a panacea for everyone and everything. Good luck in finding what you're looking for. |
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Ed Wolfstein, Photographer
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Burlington | VT | USA | Posted: 10:18 AM on 07.02.06 |
->> Hey Marc.
I'm sorry that you seem to have difficulties with Photo Mechanic of late. I feel just the opposite: The latest versions save me lots of time in my workflow - especially with the recent introduction of Code Replacement. (BTW, if you haven't tried using CR, set a bit of time aside to learn its capabilities, and adapt it to your workflow. I can say - without hesitation - that it can shave gobs of time off your captioning - especially if you do any sort of team sports on a regular, recurring, basis.)
As far as overwriting files goes, if Kirk says he'll work something in, then he'll work something in. He has a long list of requests (I'm a regular contributer) and he must prioritize what needs to be done, based on User feedback (that's us!)
So all I can tell you is to be a bit more patient, as Camera Bits is not a huge company, but in terms of responsiveness, I've never found a team more devoted to our profession. If enough Users ask for a particular function, you can bet it will rise high on Kirk's hit list.
Hang in there, don't expect a perfection, it's not a perfect world. But as you can clearly see by the community here, and all over, Photo Mechanic, and their unique level of service, is unrivalled in our niche of imaging.
Cheers.
- Ed. |
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Marc Browning, Photographer
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Wichita | KS | | Posted: 10:50 AM on 07.02.06 |
->> I've never had a problem with his support, they are by far the best at what they do in that respect. I still use pm more then any other program I own. I just didn't like some of the things that changed. Kirk's emailed me already to help out with my problems, & that says a lot of there company. You'll never hear that kind of support from Adobe & look at there prices?
I'm not trying to be harsh, just earning a living. How many people have changed over to Canon from Nikon??? I'm sure you didn't do that just for a way to spend money? right? Most have made the change to be more competitve, & to give them an edge. We all Know Nikon isn't at the" top of there game anymore?" I still use Nikon & most likely will till they go out of business. Somethings I just won't change. Somethings I will like software. |
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Jon Gardiner, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 10:57 AM on 07.02.06 |
->> Let me just say Camera Bits has been nothing but OVERLY helpful with our photo department at Duke. We have recently overhauled our workflow and our tech has been in constant contact with CameraBits involving ways to not only keep up-to-date, but also incorporate earlier file formats into the mix. That means taking a step back to make sure older stuff can be included (if that makes sense). It's that kind of personal attention that means the world. As for Customer service in our industry, CameraBits is by far the bar that has been set in my book.
To paraphrase the great Mr. T, “ I pity the fool who isn’t down with Camera Bits’ customer service.”
-J |
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David Meyer, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 12:23 PM on 07.02.06 |
->> I'll agree with the consensus opinion that Camera Bits has their fingers on the pulse of their user base. Without a doubt, one of the finer examples of true customer support out there.
My one beef with PM is the lack of support for 1D MKI RAW previews. Yes the camera is dated -- and yes there are alternative methods (RAW+JPEG) -- but I imagine that a good number of sports photographers still have one in their bag and would take advantage of that feature were it to be implemented.
Evidently, OS X and Windows Vista will eventually support these files natively (OS X may do so already with their latest update). By the time Vista is released to the public (2Q 2007), however, the original 1D will have been on the market for nearly six years. That's an eternity.
While waiting for PM to support this functionality, I've been using a Bridge/iView Media Pro/Photoshop workflow as outlined in Peter Krogh's The DAM Book. |
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Leslie Billman, Photographer
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Annapolis | Md | USA | Posted: 9:32 PM on 07.05.06 |
->> I love PhotoMechanic when it works. However, of late, I've had it fail unexpectedly in critical tasks when I was on deadline. Kirk, if you're monitoring this thread, PLEASE CONTACT ME! I need a fix. Jerry tried, to no avail.
thanks. |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 1:08 AM on 07.06.06 |
->> ..."My one beef with PM is the lack of support for 1D MKI RAW previews. Yes the camera is dated -- and yes there are alternative methods (RAW+JPEG) -- but I imagine that a good number of sports photographers still have one in their bag and would take advantage of that feature were it to be implemented. "
The purpose of the RAW+JPEG option is to have the jpeg provide a fast and smaller file for editing and previewing, along with the higher quality RAW image for working from once an image has made the cut.
I use my 1D all the time with either RAW+small JPEG, RAW+large JPEG, or JPEG by itself, depending on my needs and the weather. The small jpegs work great, and PM makes handling the RAW+JPEG combo files very transparent.
For me, I'll gladly sacrifice some space for the small jpegs rather than wait for the machine to re-render the RAW files to get the higher res previews. |
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