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MacBook Pro
David Lucas, Photographer
Toronto | On | Canada | Posted: 6:42 PM on 03.20.06
->> Ok no flames please.

We are getting new gear in May and would like to get the MacBook pro to use as our laptops over the PowerBook G4. I have looked at Rob Galbraith's speed comparison and am impressed. What i need is some real world experience to give to out IT department. If you have one could you list the pros and cons you have found on your daily workflow. Also if anyone is running Aperture in their workflow i would love to hear from you as well.

Cheers
David Lucas
Staff Photographer
Toronto Sun
www.torontonsun.com
www.davidlucasphotography.com
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Monty Rand, Photographer
Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 6:50 PM on 03.20.06
->> I love mine. I haven't experienced any negatives other than PS CS2 isn't native binary yet. Other than that it rocks.
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David Lucas, Photographer
Toronto | On | Canada | Posted: 6:57 PM on 03.20.06
->> Monty,

Give me details. It's hard for me to go back to the IT guys and say....
"Monty Rand love's his... you should buy them for us." lol

Cheers
David Lucas
Staff Photographer
Toronto Sun
http://www.torontonsun.com
http://www.davidlucasphotography.com
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Monty Rand, Photographer
Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 7:26 PM on 03.20.06
->> I don't have many details. All my apps run just great. I have no issues with any of my apps not working. The speed seems just fine. I added another gig of RAM so I have 2 gigs in it. Photo Mechanic screams on it, but that app is fast anyways. I love the keyboard. Why I dont know, but I can typer faster and better on it. Who knows why?? Screen is very bright and the colors look great I had some stuff printed the other day I did on it and they looked great. battery life, don't know yet. I've always had it plugged in. All I can say is that I love it and it has replaced my desktop 1.8GHZ G5. PS runs faster on it than the G5 I have. I've noticed no slowness when using PS, but I also haven't had PS do anything major to any photos. In my normal routine with images, PS is great.

All in all I love it. Does everything I want and it's fast and it will only get faster with native binary apps coming real soon.
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Steven Georges, Photographer
Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 8:28 PM on 03.20.06
->> "if anyone is running Aperture in their workflow i would love to hear from you as well."

I've been using Aperture 1.01 (with the updated Core Image) full time for a few weeks. I love the program. It is well written & downright brilliant in some parts, and I plan to keep using it full time.
That said, there are a few holes in it and I'm not ready to recommend it to others without caution.

Cautions with Aperture-------
1. Theeeee number one flaw, (a deal-breaker for most sports photographers,) it doesn't directly support camera sound files! You get a message stating that you have unrecognized files on your card and asking you if you want to download those files to a folder somewhere. A very annoying but workable solution. (for now)

2. I don't have the program in front of me but I don't believe it recognizes the lock command. (The way many photographers in the field mark photos from the back of their camera.)

3. It doesn't currently offer white balance pre-sets such as "cloudy," "fluorescent," "tungsten," "sunny," and so on. I do like the controls it does offer and (once I got use to them) don't have a problem getting the white balance and colors I want, but it needs to do better and offer presets.

4. It does take too long to load photos from the card to my PowerBook. It's not bad, and I can start editing the first part of the download while it is downloading the rest of the card, but it is too long if I'm trying to transmit Laker photos at half time without missing too much of the 3rd quarter. Keep in mind I'm using the G4 PowerBook that is on the absolute minimum system requirement list and the minimum amount of RAM. Your duel-core MacBook Pro should do better.

5. It does offer ALL the IPTC fields I work with and other programs don't have a problem reading them but it is still a little clunky.

Also, keep in mind that it is a major shift in whatever work flow you have become accustom to working with. It's kind of like switching from Nikon to Canon. At first you may feel a little lost and won't know how to take advantage of all Aperture has to offer. And it does have a lot to offer. When I was learning the program (with the aid of a very helpful DVD tutorial included with the program) there were many times I said to myself "this would be great if it could only to this," only to later find that it could.

Last week my PowerBook was sent off to be repaired and I had to go back to using my old workflow and resized how much I missed all the features in Aperture. For example, not being able to tell which RAW photos of mine were sharp or see the expressions of the people in the crowd when using Photo Mechanic 4.2 was far more annoying that not having a sound icon next to the photo.

The Program is impressive for a 1.0 version, but it is still 1.0. and I'm sure there are annoyances that other photographers will find that are much more irritating than what I listed. If your photographers are all gun-ho about Aperture, they will be willing to put up with inconveniences until updates come. If they are not exited about what Aperture has to offer and are looking for reasons not to like the program, they will fine them.
An Intel native Aperture 1.1 is about to be released and although it doesn't replace PhotoShop, it should replace much of what you formerly did with PhotoShop.
I'm also sure Apple is hard at work on version 2.0.
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Michael Hickey, Photographer
Kokomo | IN | United States | Posted: 9:04 PM on 03.20.06
->> I'm also one using Aperture more and more, at first I was rather ho-hum about it and then I went to PMA and saw Apple working on it first hand and said to myself, "I've got to do this myself!"
I'm anxiously waiting the 1.1 update and 4 more gb of RAM that I've ordered because as Steven said before it is pretty slow on the import. Apple promised a speed bump with the update and the more RAM should help as well. I'm hoping the speed bump will help it to become a deadline tool, but right now, it will not fit into my deadline workflow.
Also if you can deal with the filing and archive structure than Aperture is the real deal.
One MAJOR drawback is the ability to burn CD's right from the app., you can burn projects but a simple structured CD that a PC can handle is something I desperately need, but I doubt that's going to happen. So I'm going to need to figure some workflow issues out then I'll be in good shape.
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David Seelig, Photographer
Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 10:19 PM on 03.20.06
->> I havbe a dual 2 ghz g5 with 3 gb ram will the mac book pro be about as fast with universal apps. Thanks David
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Monty Rand, Photographer
Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 5:34 AM on 03.21.06
->> Just FYI, but aperture will not work on the MacBook Pro even under Rosetta. A new version is expected shortly and this will work. Here's what apple's site said -

"Not supported on Intel-based Mac computers with Rosetta; a Universal version to be available before the end of March 2006"
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Steven Georges, Photographer
Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 8:00 PM on 03.21.06
->> "burn projects but a simple structured CD that a PC can handle is something I desperately need"

Michael, you can batch export "Versions" as TIFF or jpeg's from Aperture. As you know, versions include any changes you made to the photo in Aperture. You can also batch export the "Masters," the unaltered RAW files that were created with the camera.

Both project files and the library file are not files but OS X packages, or fancy folders. You can view and even copy the contents inside a package by right clicking (or control click) on the package for the pull down menu and using the "Show Package Contents" command. You can also drag an Aperture library or project package to a photo catalog program capable of reading your RAW files such as iView or Portfolio to catalog the photos inside the package. Photo Mechanic does not work because it doesn't recognize photos inside multiple folders.

If you plug-in a CD containing an Aperture project into a windows computer, (or even an OS X 10.2 computer,) it should read the project as a folder. Granted the folders inside the project folder is organized in a strange way but Aperture needs that to save your changes on top of the original unaltered Master photo.

One last but very important point that most of you already know, the chances of an Aperture project or library file becoming corrupt and you not being able to extract your photos are the same as a folder becoming corrupt. Because ultimately that's what it is.
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