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Two Laptops
Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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Amherst | MA | USA | Posted: 4:08 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> Vince asked how I was hooking two laptops together in a previous post, so here is the answer.
I connect a firewire cable from one laptop to the other, restarting one laptop holding down the "T" key. I only own one of the OS X laptops (my other iBook is 9.2 and a Win 2K laptop), so I borrow the second laptop from my local independent Apple shop.
My laptop is the work station (1), it is the one restarted, while connected to the transmit laptop (2). I restart "1" connected to "2" via the firewire. "2" sees the hard drive of "1" to retrieve images to transmit, while "1" remains operational to edit and caption images.
I am somewhat new to OS X, and don't play with it much, all I know is that the folks at the computer shop set my computer up to work in conjunction with the other laptop like this. They say it is using the Apple FireWire IP, with the preferences configured for my needs. Both machines are running Jaguar, not sure if this is specific to Jaguar or to OS X it's self. I don't tend to play with OS X to much, other than to use it.
It is simple from my work end, no messing around, just a restart of one machine. I will check to see if any special drivers are software are needed for this operation.
It would have worked yet again, had a Sat Phone actually arrived in time to meet me at Logan (I traveled overseas, the sat phone didn't) |
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Darron R. Silva, Photographer
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Grand Rapids | MI | USA | Posted: 4:41 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> Stephen:
This is called 'Target Disk Mode' and should work with any mac with OS X. My question for you is: why do this? Mac OS X is great at multi-tasking, and you shouldn't have any trouble transmitting while you edit and tone images on the same computer. I do it all the time with my tower running 10.2.5. Transmitting works well in the background whether using email, ftp, or network connections. This allows you to carry only one laptap, and if you're like me, lighter is better. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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Amherst | MA | USA | Posted: 4:51 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> Darron:
I do it because I generally use AOL to transmit. AOL is just easier to stack the e-mails into a que to be transmitted. I have used other programs, but AOL is just the easiest. AOL is also the easiest to find a local (semi-local) access number.
While AOL does work in the background, it is not the best program to use to x-mit and work at the same time. I find it works for me, and shaves a significant amount of time off my work flow.
I used Fetch for a while,and found it to crash a number of times while transmitting at the same time I was editing with PhotoMechanic a Pshop 7, all in OS X.
Rather than play around, I found the 2 laptops works the best for me....but only when I know my time is very short and I'll be a failrly large number of images.
....and yes I do prefer lighter is better! |
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M. David Leeds, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 5:06 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> Steven-
I don't know much about OSX as I haven't made that move yet.. but it seems as though you can do what you're trying to do with a cross-over cable that connects via ethernet ports - they are not just ethernet cables from my understanding but priced about the same.. you just connect the two computers and through some Apple Talk and Chooser settings you can be accessing the files on one computer via the other in a matter of minutes.. let me know if you need or would like more information about this.. the crossover cable that I have was given to me by a friend of mine, but I saw them at Staples and was surprised they weren't more expensive.. a great item to have..
Kind regards,
David |
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Darron R. Silva, Photographer
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Grand Rapids | MI | USA | Posted: 5:06 PM on 05.06.03 |
| ->> For FTP with X, try transmit - it is really easy to use, and works well in the background. I haven't used AOL, but you can use OS X's built in mail program (Mail) to que up several emails at once. It will then send them in the background while you work. Just FYI. |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer
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San Marcos | TX | US | Posted: 5:23 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> M. David, a crossover cable is simply a regular ethernet cable with the internal wires in a different order (at one end of the cable).
BUT, if I'm not mistaken you don't even need one with most modern Macs, they will simply handle the "crossover" internally (and automatically), so a standard ethernet cable can be used between them. |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer
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Kailua-Kona | HI | USA | Posted: 5:39 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> For the white iBooks and newer G4 type PowerBooks you no longer need a Ethernet cross-over cable as the port will automatically re-configure itself into crossover mode. Same thing for the newer desktop Macs. Makes life a lot easier by just having a normal cable.
Also according to http://www.barefeats.com using an Ethernet cable and the GigaBit Ethernet on the newer PowerMacs you can transfer a 177MB file in just 4 seconds.
From BareFeats, "We did a Quick Take on AirPort Extreme. We transferred a 177MB file between Macs. AirPort took 270 seconds. AirPort Extreme did it in 70. Not exactly 5 times faster but it's good. Of course, to put this in perspective, using cables and hubs, we can transfer the file in 16 seconds. A gigabit crossover does it in less than 4."
I user Interarchy in Mac OS X to do file transfers via FTP. |
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Nathan Pier, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Madison | WI | USA | Posted: 6:51 PM on 05.06.03 |
| ->> Does anyone know how to do this on a wireless network on 2 macs running OSX? |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer
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Kailua-Kona | HI | USA | Posted: 7:46 PM on 05.06.03 |
| ->> If you're running Jaguar Mac OS 10.2.x then just use Rendezvous to have both Macs discover each other, then it's pretty darn easy to transfer files with very little configuration. |
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Dan Powers, Photographer
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Appleton | WI | USA | Posted: 10:21 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> Steve,
I'm using Fetch with my G4 Mac. I use Photomechanic to edit images while I'm transmitting. It has NEVER (knock on wood!) crashed while doing this. Maybe it's because I still have OS 9.2? Just wondering...Dan. P.S. I was gonna bid on Favre's place but my wife didn't like the neighbors! ;0) |
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Vincent Laforet, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 10:30 PM on 05.06.03 |
| ->> OK cool - I see what you're doing - but must admit it doesn't make much sense to me - the Ethernet crossover cable makes much more sense - you don't have to restart... I thought you had a new way to connect two "live" macs together with Firewire - if anyone finds out how - if that'll even be possible - let me know. Thanks for taking the time to answer! V |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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Amherst | MA | USA | Posted: 10:52 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> Vince:
Sorry I don't have a better way. I'd love a better way. I have tried using AOL in the background (I know, not the best program to use), but it just slows up my machine, or it "hangs up" just spinning, what a pain in the butt.
I had seen the crossover cables, but am happy with FireWire cables, because the restart time of the iBooks is pretty darn short (coming from Windows 2000, which takes forever).
In the end it is a time saver. I had to dial up and connect from a local London number when I landed at Heathrow, I let one laptop do my shipping, which was slow (a 28.8 connection from the phone line I was able to borrow in a closed terminal), so the other could do my editing in Photo Mechanic and Photoshop.
I am always open to faster ways to cut my workflow times down. I might be heading off to Karbala to shoot more humanitarian aid in the next 10 days, so let me know if you have a faster suggestion I can dry-try before I head out (if I go).
At the moment this is the fastest work flow I have found. |
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Justin Sullivan, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | | Posted: 11:51 PM on 05.06.03 |
->> "In the end it is a time saver. I had to dial up and connect from a local London number when I landed at Heathrow, I let one laptop do my shipping, which was slow (a 28.8 connection from the phone line I was able to borrow in a closed terminal), so the other could do my editing in Photo Mechanic and Photoshop. "
seems like it might have been faster and only required one laptop if you worked on the photos during the flight and sent them when you got to London. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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Amherst | MA | USA | Posted: 9:51 AM on 05.07.03 |
->> Justin:
I knew the inflight entertainment system would be off in flight, only switched on when on the ground, so there would be no power from the seats with the power supply I use on planes. A few photogs used my power supply on the ground to get plugged in, I chose to spend all my time out shooting.
My set up was really planning for shooting, editing and shipping from a satalite phone from Basra. The sat phone did not arrive in time for me to get it, so my planning and deadlines were messed up anyway.
(and I got most of my work done on the plane, but no toning or colour correcting, as I had the screen to 1/2 brightness to save the battery)
These things happen. |
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Craig Mitchelldyer, Photographer, Assistant
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 10:36 AM on 05.07.03 |
| ->> Duh Justin, how did you not think of all those things. |
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