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Photo Mechanic/Photoshop Issues
Bryan Rinnert, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | United States | Posted: 9:02 AM on 09.12.05 |
->> I encountered these problems in the last week or so, but I'm not sure how long it has been happening. I've been noticing that captions are different in Photo Mechanic 4.3.8 then appear in the metadata in Photoshop CS2. This is causing some really big workflow issues for myself when I'm shooting and my whole staff when we are editing.
Here what has happened:
This weekend I shot a football game, when I import my images from my cards I apply some general metadata and very basic captions with Photo Mechanic. Then I make edits and to those images I add more detailed caption information. Later I was making some crops and edits in Photoshop and checked something in the file info. As I did so, the caption information was the basic info I had entered while importing the cards, not the more detailed captions. But when I reopened the same image in Photo Mechanic I found the more detailed info still there. I found it to be this way for all my images. The only way I could get my caption info to transfer from Photo Mechanic to Photoshop correctly was to use the IPTC Stationary Pad and apply it to a single image at a time…very annoying.
Something similar happened last week while editing some images from Getty. I opened images in Photoshop to edit and checked the file info to check the credit. I noticed that the caption information was very sparse. Later I opened the same image in Photo Mechanic and the entire caption was there.
Has anyone else seen this happen and/or how to fix it? Does Photo Mechanic store ITPC information differently then Photoshop? |
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Robert Benson, Photographer
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San Diego | CA | USA | Posted: 11:10 AM on 09.12.05 |
->> Call the guys at camerabits.com. A human being answers everytime and they know their products quite well...
www.camerabits.com |
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
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Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 1:34 PM on 09.12.05 |
->> Or you can post your question to the Photo Mechanic forum at robgalbraith.com http://forums.robgalbraith.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB28
Kirk Baker, who seems to be THE guy at Camerabits when it comes to developing Photo Mechanic will try to help you out. It's possible the issue has already been discussed, so I would advise looking through past posts in that forum. |
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Bryan Rinnert, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | United States | Posted: 1:50 PM on 09.13.05 |
->> I got this responce from Kirk Baker at Camera Bits:
I think what may be happening is if you take your photo that has been captioned in Photo Mechanic and edit it in Photoshop, re-saving over the file, Photoshop is inserting XMP data into it. When you update the caption, Photo Mechanic continues to update the IPTC caption and ignores, but preserves the XMP data. When you reopen the photo in Photoshop it sees the XMP data first and ignores the updated IPTC data that you entered.
Photo Mechanic 4.4 will update both the IPTC caption and the XMP data. But currently version 4.3.8 and earlier do not.
Rest assured that the caption data is truly in the file, it's just that Photoshop has implemented a 'defacto' standard and is no longer looking at the international standard IPTC data when its data is present.
HTH,
-Kirk
Kirk A. Baker
Senior Software Engineer
Camera Bits, Inc. |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 3:25 PM on 09.13.05 |
->> That Kirk is always lurking in the shadows. :-)
I don't use Photoshop to caption or manipulate my IPTC data. That's all handled in PhotoMechanic during ingest or later when I'm processing images and want to update some keywords.
I use PS for image manipulation only and PM for ingesting and editing/sorting/quick viewing.
PS is the standard for editing the actual image content, but I have my doubts it's the standard for IPTC captioning, and PM seems to handle other app's variations of IPTC better, which is why I rely on PM for that task. |
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