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D2H problem - anyone else have this problem?
John Pavoncello, Photographer
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York | PA | USA | Posted: 4:09 PM on 08.18.05 |
->> Hi all. Wondering if anyone else has had this problem.
If I switch lenses, say from my 80-200 to my 17-35, the images with the 17-35 are 1-1 1/2 stops dark. Doesn't matter what mode I'm in, even in full manual exposure conrol.
I thought that maybe it was a problem with my 17-35 but now, our other staff photographer is having the same exact problem.
Same light, same exposure reading, but a 1 -1 1/2 exposure differnce between the lenses. |
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Michael Myers, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Miami Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 11:31 PM on 08.18.05 |
->> Suggestion - put the camera on "manual" and try to take photos with the same exposure with each lens, as well as a few other lenses. They should be the same. See if they're all different, or if only one of the lenses acts strangely.
What you need to do first, is narrow it down to the camera, or one of the lenses. |
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Mark J. Rebilas, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 11:34 PM on 08.18.05 |
| ->> One problem I have had with my D2h is the first photo I take after the camera was in standby mode it is WAAAY dark. Like in a sequence the first image is dark and the rest are perfect. Could never figure it out. Doesn't matter what lens I'm using either. |
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Chris Preovolos, Photographer
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Stamford | CT | United States | Posted: 12:10 AM on 08.19.05 |
| ->> Mark, I'm having that same problem too. Doesn't make much sense to me. |
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Paul W Gillespie, Photographer
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Annapolis | MD | USA | Posted: 9:19 AM on 08.19.05 |
| ->> I have noticed that when I use the 300 2.8 and then I switch to the 70-200 2.8 my photos are a 1 1/2 stops darker. Kind of like the 300 lets in more light even though they both are 2.8 lenses. This is with the camera on all manual settings. |
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Joe Andras, Photographer
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Laguna Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 9:44 AM on 08.19.05 |
->> I have perceived this issue too, but have regarded the images taken with my 17-55/2.8 as unusually flat (lacking contrast), rather than as underexposed.
I frequently have to aggressively post-process the black and white levels of the wide shots to make them look right.
I have only used this lens for a few months. I have been blaming the new lens, but maybe there's some issue in combination with the D2H. |
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John Pavoncello, Photographer
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York | PA | USA | Posted: 1:57 PM on 08.19.05 |
->> I almost always shoot in manual exposure control so I know it's not a metering problem. With the 400 2.8 AFS I saw no difference in exposures between that and the 80-200, but between the 80-200 and the 17-35, I'm getting an underexposed, flat photo. I thought it might just be a problem with one of the lenses, but now that our other staffer is experiencing the same problem, I'm leaning more on the camera then the lenses.
Thanks for all your help!
John |
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John Ritter, Photographer
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Vandalia | OH | United States | Posted: 4:14 PM on 08.19.05 |
| ->> Has anyone with this problem just had their D2H serviced? Since getting my D2H back from service with a new shutter, everything has to be pushed with exposure compensation +1.0 to +1.3. Before service I was happy at +.3. |
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Kevin Sperl, Photographer
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Laconia | nh | USA | Posted: 4:28 PM on 08.19.05 |
->> On our newly acquired D2H's, we are having the same type of issue except that images are grossly overexposed. On one it has become an almost every image problem and is on its way for repair. , the other is intermittent.
Also, the one that is in for repair is used by a shooter that uses manual mode.
Was there not a related Canon thread talking about a busted lens "stop" that sensed when a lens was mounted? |
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Chris Jordan, Photographer
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Whitefish | MT | USA | Posted: 4:32 PM on 08.19.05 |
->> Hey John -
I was actually going to start a thread similar to this today. My problem is really extreme. If the ambient light reading is 500 f8 at ISO 200, then my 80-200 will expose the frame correctly. However, if I put on my 17-35 and shoot at the same exposure the frame essentially goes completely white. So I re-expose by chimping, and the frame is well exposed at 2500 f16 ISO 200. It is awful and intriging at the same time. How in the hell is this possible? It only happens in daylight, and the problem coincided with my both my autofocus and in-camera light meter braking. I am sending the body into NPS, but I have actually been shooting this way for about 6 weeks now. Sometimes the camera with the 17-35 will randomly switch back and forth between the correct exposure and the "4-stops-over-on-steriods" exposure. Basically I have to chimp after almost every shot I take, and several decent frames have been ruined. I shoot about 50 hours a week and I refer to my life as man vs. machine. Usually I can defeat the machine, but there are certain days when I leave work very frustrated.
On another note the frames that are exposed with the 17-35 at the really high settings look fine, so wouldn't it be kind of cool if Nikon could figure out what is going on with my camera and then perfect it so that all of the sudden dark high school gyms would expose like daylight. |
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Jamie Roper, Photographer
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Hays | KS | United States | Posted: 6:05 PM on 08.19.05 |
->> Man...I've only ever had problems with the D2h since I got one new in October 2004. The on/off switch was the first thing to go, which I hobbled along with for a couple of months before other issues arose and the camera was sent back to Nikon (within 6 months of ownership). It came back with darn near everything but the serial number replaced and now...it short-focuses, does the 'dark frame' act on the first frame of a freshly formatted card (about 1 in 7 times), and occasionally gives unever exposures during fast sequences when all other factors are the same (light, manual exposure settings).
A buddy at another newspaper in our chain has had other frustrating problems with one of his D2h's, the 'best' problem being the failure of the main shutter release button an hour after unpacking the camera...just back from factory service. I'd call the camera a dog, but I like dogs.
I should also add that my boss' D2h, purchased at the same time as mine, has operated flawlessly since new. Pretty impressive for a 10-month old Nikon, no? Sorry if this is off-topic -- my camera hasn't been hit with Pavoncello's problems. Yet. |
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Mike Shepherd, Photographer
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Topeka | KS | USA | Posted: 7:03 PM on 08.19.05 |
->> and i was going to start my *own* thread for this ... i'm getting the initial black frame mentioned and i've also found since having my D2h since april 2004 that i cannot trust the aperature priority mode. if i dial in manually, it's fine usually, though lately my exposures have been all over the board (light frames, extremely dark frames) with the same exposure dialed in. compared to my D1h the exposures aren't the same for the same scene. i don't always shoot with the same lens on the same body, so i can't speak to it being a lens issue for me. i've been wondering lately if it's a battery issue because, as i recall, there was a battery issue with the older D1 cameras rendering black frames.
so, we've all had these problems. anyone on here have any solutions ... besides switching to canon, that is?!!!
shep |
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Rachel E. Bayne, Photographer
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bellingham | wa | | Posted: 8:18 PM on 08.19.05 |
->> i feel better now... thought it was just me! I consistently have darker images with my 80-200 2.8 using the same exposure as my 17-35 2.8. my D2h also has the worst meter and white balance.
i'm looking into getting a D2hs... anyone used both cameras and had better luck with the D2hs meter, white balance or crazy underexposed images while using the 80-200? |
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Jamie Roper, Photographer
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Hays | KS | United States | Posted: 8:23 PM on 08.19.05 |
| ->> the solution should be in Nikon's record profit-making hands -- RECALL |
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 8:34 PM on 08.19.05 |
->> I've had two different problems with my D2H cameras.
One camera worked flawlessly for almost a year until the meter died last month. Nikon replaced the meter in a 4 day turn around. The camera has worked great ever since - knock wood.
The other camera has been giving me totally washed out frames since new out of the box. The washed out frames were totally random, but when it happened, the whole camera would freeze up and give an ERR message. Simply turning it on and off would unfreeze the camera.
Sent it to NPS. Once again, only a 4 day turn around. They replaced some chips. Started shooting but it still gave washed out frames. In fact I started getting more washed out images after the fix, but far fewer freeze ups with the ERR message. Weird!
It's back to NPS for repair.
Thought I'd mention this to help anyone else with a similar problem so you don't feel allow. |
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Chris Williams, Photographer, Student/Intern
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