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TIGER: It's All Good
David Turnedge, Photographer
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Elizabeth Bay | NSW | Australia | Posted: 8:28 AM on 05.02.05 |
->> Just installed Tiger on my G4 768MB iMac.
Installation took less than 30 minutes.
iMac noticably faster in every respect.
No hiccups so far!
David :-) |
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Zach Honig, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 8:52 AM on 05.02.05 |
->> Glad you're having a good experience with Tiger. I, however, have not been so lucky. My 200GB Maxtor One Touch FireWire hard drive will not mount in Tiger. Any attempt to connect it immediately results in a 'Kernal Panic'. After 2 hours on the phone with AppleCare (you do get 90 days of phone support with a new os, which is nice), we determined that there was no immediate solution. Apparently the first technician I spoke to didn't know what I was talking about, and emailed me a document explaining how to use a second mac as an external drive, then disconnected. I had to call back and wait in line again, better explain the problem to 'Mark', who actually seemed knowledgable. After booting with strange key combinations and changing some settings, the verdict was that I would have to wait for a fix to be posted in software update :(
My recommendation: Check compatability of you peripherals BEFORE upgrading. I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that your Maxtor One Touch FireWire drive will NOT work until a fix is made available. Luckily I backup my data to two external drives, one of which mounts with no problem, otherwise I'd be SOL or forced to revert back to 10.3 (if that's even possible). |
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Jack Kurtz, Photographer
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Phoenix | AZ | United States | Posted: 10:19 AM on 05.02.05 |
->> Sadly, one of Tiger's software incompatibilities at this point is with the Cisco VPN client, so if you rely on that you had best not upgrade to Tiger. Other incompatibilities include Virtual PC, Retrospect, Extensis Portfolio and the Delkin 32 bit carbus adaptor. If you use any of those, you should at minimum do a lot of research into Tiger before setting the cat loose on your hard drive.
There is a complete of other incompatibilities at Macintouch. Click here: http://macintouch.com/tigerreview/incompatibility.html
jack |
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Denis Rochefort, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Bowling Green | KY | USA | Posted: 11:26 AM on 05.02.05 |
| ->> i'm addicted to widgets. |
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Tony Donaldson, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 11:27 AM on 05.02.05 |
->> Jack,
That's a great resource. Thanks for posting! Lets me know I'll still be waiting a while before upgrading. There are always growing pains with a major OS version. I don't want to be without Toast or my Maxtor externals. But thanks also to people like David who are on the bleeding edge and testing it for the rest of us.
-TD |
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PJ Heller, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 12:28 PM on 05.02.05 |
->> Another source to find out about Tiger problems/issues:
http://www.macfixit.com/ |
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Chad Greene, Photographer
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Galveston | TX | USA | Posted: 12:51 PM on 05.02.05 |
| ->> I got my copy of Tiger last Friday and love it. I have not had any of the problems on my 17-inch powerbook that people have talked about. My external hard drives all work great and nothing I’m running including Toast have had any issues at all. I had to make 3 cd's and 4 DVD's this last weekend with no issues. Tiger has a ton of cool new features! Maybe I’m just one of the lucky ones, no problems at all. |
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Matt Barton, Photographer
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Lexington | KY | USA | Posted: 1:27 PM on 05.02.05 |
->> Yes, dashboard is very addictive.
How long before we see a widget that instantly shows sportsshooter forum updates?
Anyone care to write that for us? |
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Scott Varley, Photographer
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Torrance | CA | USA | Posted: 2:24 PM on 05.02.05 |
| ->> The only problem I've encountered with 10.4 (and it's a major one for me) is that my Powerbook no longer recognizes my cell phone attached via USB. Therefore, I'm not able to use it to transfer remotely with QuickLink Micro. I may switch back to Panther until a fix is made. |
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Robert McClory, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 2:58 PM on 05.02.05 |
->> I am contemplating going with Tiger and I am curious to see all the issues you guys are talking about. I hear a few of you are talking about just "switching back to Panther." My question is whether that is easy to do or not? Has anyone done it, and if so, is it destructive (i.e. once you go back, does all that stopped working with Tiger begin working again like before)?
Just trying to determine if I will take the leap, or wait until a patch comes out.
Thanks,
RM |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Tucson | AZ | USA | Posted: 3:03 PM on 05.02.05 |
| ->> Jack ... Thanks for the tip on VPN. I was going to upgrade over the weekend, but decided to wait due to VPN concerns. Thank goodness I waited because I use VPN a lot. |
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David Turnedge, Photographer
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Elizabeth Bay | NSW | Australia | Posted: 5:37 PM on 05.02.05 |
->> I guess my Vaio is my work horse and my iMac is my 'feel good computer' where I only use the net, Word, Excel and work on my photos.
Sorry about all the troubles people are having. If you don't do anything out of the ordinary (I guess most people would be like this) then it seems to be a safe bet to move to Tiger.
BTW, widgets are cool but are they really that useful?
David |
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Joshua Brown, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Salt Lake City | UT | USA | Posted: 6:04 PM on 05.02.05 |
| ->> I want to see a custom Sportsshooter widget. RSS forum feed, or even something that pulls photos from the galleries of your favorite photographers. Too bad I am not nerd enough to make one. |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
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Round Rock (Austin) | TX | US | Posted: 6:52 PM on 05.02.05 |
->> Here are my thoughts for some neat SportsShooter.com widgets.
* A little floating "Currently Cool" window that would display the current info and allow you to follow the link into your web browser.
* A "Who Just Updated?" window with the same functionality.
* Possibly even a Message Board widget, (but why not just have the site open?)
All of them (in my mind) would look just like they do here on the front page, only cropped out by themselves to fit in with your other widgets. Of course I don't have the personal knowledge to make it happen...just thinking out loud. |
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Damon Moritz, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Woodbridge | Va. | USA | Posted: 7:14 PM on 05.02.05 |
->> I'd like a random member widget. Id like to see some of the members who aren't quite so active. You know there is quiet talent out there.
How about a function that uses the little questions at the bottom of the page.
Damon Moritz
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Vern Verna, Photographer
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Greenville | SC | United States | Posted: 1:18 AM on 05.03.05 |
->> well as for me, just put mine on this afternoon. 17" 1ghz pb with 1.5gb ram
1. both my ext. hd work fine
2. photomechanic is quicker
3. photoshop works fine
4. fetch works
5. aol works
6. toast works fine on mine as opposed to the link above some r having trouble.
7. sprint cell phone connects no problem via usb.
just waiting on the pm and ps widgets, then dashboard will be really useful. |
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Vern Verna, Photographer
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Greenville | SC | United States | Posted: 1:20 AM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> oh one thing. i loaded it and immediately pulled up a folder of 700 photos in pm to edit. spotlight was indexing my hd which is pretty full. i recommend waiting a little while after u load it to do some memory intensive work cause it was way slow till spotlight got done which was at least 45 min. after that it screams. |
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Thierry Gourjon, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 9:46 AM on 05.03.05 |
->> Just "Tigered" both my Desktop (G4) and Powerbook (12 inch). No glitch what so ever: CS, PM, Fetch, Dreamweaver all work perfectly.
Vern is right, if you upgrade, allow a little time for Spotlight to index all your files which is done automaticaly as soon as you upgrade and is fairly quick. Once it is done, everything is very smooth...
T. |
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Michael Foo, Photographer
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Seal Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 11:44 AM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> This might be a dumb question. During his keynote presentation in SF, Steve Jobs showed that Spotlight can access content inside of pdf files while attached in an email. Does anyone know if you can search for images based on the captioning information? |
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Vern Verna, Photographer
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Greenville | SC | United States | Posted: 12:09 PM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> well if u can it aint yet on mine. the guy at compusa told me part of that was up to the 3rd party sw developers (ie adobe and camera bits). spotlight will find a keyword in a captioning but i just copy and pasted a caption from a photo from fri night game and it didnt find it. it did find one on my desktop though with that caption but not some on my ext hd. |
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 2:14 PM on 05.03.05 |
->> Rule Number 1: The four most important letters in computing are RTFM
Rule Number 2: Never buy Version One of anything
Rule Number 2A: Never buy version X.0 of anything
Rule Number 3: See rule number one |
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Robert Meyer, Student/Intern
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Lincoln | NE | United States | Posted: 2:19 PM on 05.03.05 |
->> At work, Tiger has had awesome reviews. The one complaint we've had was from customers with portables. When you open it from sleep, the screen pauses on blue when you have it password protected.
Tiger is great, FTP widget coming soon. |
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Michael Jordan, Photographer
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West Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 2:21 PM on 05.03.05 |
->> Michael,
EXIF Information along with some IPTC info is searchable through spotlight but only if you are using a "Smart Folder" to hold the images that you are searching.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/tips/spotlight.html
(Look at the bottom left hand side) |
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Douglas Jones, Photographer
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Olathe | KS | USA | Posted: 5:43 PM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> I just recieved an email from Printroom.com. Looks like PSM doesn't work with Tiger, yet. Printroom is aware of the problem and should have a patch in 7-14 days. |
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Vern Verna, Photographer
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Greenville | SC | United States | Posted: 7:08 PM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> ok my first complaint the weather widget sucks. as of right now it says it is 39 degrees here in atlanta and raining. weather.com says 66 and my own observation (mind u i am not a meteoroligist) it is sunny. looks like bill gates needs to tweak it for them lol. other than that it is great!! |
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Vasha Hunt, Photographer
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Opelika | AL | USA | Posted: 7:44 PM on 05.03.05 |
->> I picked up Tiger and CS2 at the launch party in Atlanta Friday night and installed them both that night. I have not had any problems yet, although, as mentioned above, the first few hours are slow as spotlight indexes your internal and external hard drives.
Toast works fine for me, as does PS CS2, PM, and everything else non-photo related that I've launched. |
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Nigel Kinrade, Photographer
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Alpharetta | GA | USA | Posted: 9:24 PM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> Vern, my weather widget tells me it's 60 degrees here in Atlanta and clear, I dont know why yours should be any different.The apple website has some downloadable widgets which are worth a look. |
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Michael R. Sisak, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Commack | NY | USA | Posted: 9:42 PM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> No fun! I tried installing Tiger today, but there seems to be a hiccup with my PowerBook... a disk error! Anyone else see this trouble? |
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Michael Zito, Photographer
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West Hills | CA | USA | Posted: 9:44 PM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> Jack, Extensis Portfolio 7 is working fine with OS 10.4, no problems (so far) |
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Michael Zito, Photographer
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West Hills | CA | USA | Posted: 10:47 PM on 05.03.05 |
| ->> The Lexar High Speed 32-bit cardbus reader is not working with Tiger, though the Leaxr Firewire (purple one) is working fine. I was online with a tech and he was going to e-mail me the driver (does one even exist for OS 10.4?) I went to the web site and downloaded the latest 32 bit card bus driver, but still no luck |
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
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Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 12:19 AM on 05.04.05 |
->> There were some quesions about going back to Panther...
I'm not sure if that is possible using the Panther install CDs, but there is another way if you plan a bit ahead.
As we all know, we should back up our data regularly. One of the things to consider is backing up your entire start up drive. Due to all sorts of hidden system files, etc., it's not a matter of simply copying it all over to another drive using the Finder. But, it's almost that easy if you download a utility such as Carbon Copy Cloner, which happens to be free. http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html
Though I haven't tried it, it seems you can also do this with Apple's Disk Utility.
Use CCC to backup your startup drive to another volume or disk. After you've done this step then install Tiger (this backup procedure is also a good idea if you are doing an OS update, such as from 10.3.8 to 10.3.9). If the new OS is flaky on your system, reboot from the backup copy of the old OS and your system will run exactly as it did prior to the update. |
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Robert Caplin, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Athens | OH | USA | Posted: 3:04 PM on 05.04.05 |
->> Mac Mail question...
For some reason Tiger's Mac Mail is not automatically applying my signature to emails, as it did in the previous version. I have the option to add it to each email individually, but that gets tedious. Anyone else having a problem with this?
Robert |
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Thierry Gourjon, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 5:24 PM on 05.04.05 |
->> Robert,
Go to the "Preferences" from the Mail pulldown menu and go to the Signatures sub menu: Once there you should see a large "@" with your name next to it. Highlight it and then highlight the signature you want to apply. Then look at the bottom of the window, the "Choose Signature" with a pulldown menu and choose the one you want. It is much easier and quicker to do than type this explaination........
Hope it helps.
T. |
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Robert Caplin, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Athens | OH | USA | Posted: 7:46 PM on 05.04.05 |
->> Thierry...Thanks, that did it....how dense can I be? :-)
One more question....I'm the type of guy that likes to know if and when my email is being checked. In the older version of Mail there was a little progress dial that appeared by the inbox when the program was checking my email. I see that I can open a separate (progress) window that will show the status of my email accounts, but the last thing I need is another window open! I miss the little progress wheel...anyone know of a way--shy of petitioning to Apple--to get that back?
Robert |
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Thierry Gourjon, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 12:04 AM on 05.05.05 |
->> Outside of having your "activity viewer" open all the time, I don t believe it is possible anymore. Better start your petition...... :)
T. |
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Howard Curtis Smith, Photographer
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Easton | PA | USA | Posted: 2:52 PM on 05.06.05 |
->> Anymore updates from the early adopters?
Anyone know whether certain applications play well with Tiger? I am most interested in Canon DPP, Noise Ninja, and PhotoRescue.
Does anyone have a workaround for Quicklink Mobile not working besides going back to Panther?
Zach, if you have found it already, here is the link for the fix for your Maxtor Hard Drive.
http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/maxtor.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faq...
Incase the above link does not work. Here is the text from the page at Maxtor.
Problem:
After Mac OS X, version 10.4 (aka Tiger) is installed, the system generates a Kernel Panic when a OneTouch/OneTouch II drive is connected.
Cause:
Outdated driver files from the OneTouch/OneTouch II drive are present on the Mac.
Solution:
To resolve the issue, please download and install Maxtor OneTouch Mac OS X Drive Update available on Maxtor's Website. To obtain this driver:
Go to Maxtor's Software Download page
Scroll down to External Drives and select the Maxtor OneTouch Mac OS X Drive Update from the drop-down menu
Download the onetouch_os_x_update_sept04_2003.pkg.sit file.
Extract onetouch_os_x_update_sept04_2003.pkg.sit to your Macintosh System that the Maxtor OneTouch drive is connected to.
Suggestion: extract the file to the Desktop of the Mac that you will connect the OneTouch Drive to. Upon extraction, the OneTouch OS X UpSep 04 2003.pkg package appears.
Double-click on the OneTouch OS X UpSep 04 2003.pkg file.
Authenticate with the appropriate name, password or phrase and click OK.
The Welcome Screen appears click on the Continue button.
Select a destination for the update (e.g., Macintosh Hard Disk) and click on the Continue button.
When prompted, click on the Install button to start the update.
A warning will appear informing you that the system will need to be restarted after the update. Click on the Continue Installation button to proceed.
When finished, click on the Restart button. |
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Stephen Scharf, Photographer
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Albany | CA | USA | Posted: 7:08 PM on 05.07.05 |
->> Anyone used Tiger with the ImagePrint 6.0 RIP yet?
That's my biggest concern right now. |
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Robert Caplin, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Athens | OH | USA | Posted: 8:16 PM on 05.07.05 |
->> I've noticed a few issues with Tiger.
All jpgs will only open in preview unless I drag them to/open them from a different application. I used to double click and they would open with Photoshop. I went to the "get info" menu to change the "open with" preference. After dragging the menu to open with Photoshop CS, it automatically reverts to Preview...with "default" in grey beside it. Not a huge issue right now...but it needs fixing.
Also, attached photos via Tiger Mail will not open for the local paper I contribute to. The images show up as dead link icons and open in text form with millions of numbers. I sent some test attachments via webmail (bypassing my Tiger Mail application) and they open up just fine.
I'm sure there will be some updates soon that will fix these problems. Everything else seems fine... |
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Kevin German, Photographer
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Springfield | IL | USA | Posted: 4:36 AM on 05.09.05 |
| ->> Michael ... I had disk errors as well. I finally had to remove my third party 1 gig ram and then install Tiger. Worked like a charm ... just put the ram back in afterwards too. Give that a try if you've put any ram in yours. |
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Vern Verna, Photographer
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Greenville | SC | United States | Posted: 11:05 AM on 05.10.05 |
->> well i had a glitch sat night. i blew out tiger a little at the wachovia championship and pulled up shadow/ highlight to fix it. up came the medicine dropper, i could take all kind of samples with the pix but could do nothing else. i had to do a force quit to get out of it. i restarted ps and same thing. it did it 3 times before i gave up on the photo. i tried it this morning and it works fine. anybody else had this problem?
tiger, ps cs, 17in pb 1ghz, 1.5mb ram,pm and fetch also running at the time. |
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Howard Curtis Smith, Photographer
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Easton | PA | USA | Posted: 12:52 PM on 05.10.05 |
| ->> I have read that there are a couple of problems with PhotoShop in Tiger. There is a file that PhotoShop needs that gets misplaced during the update. The easiest way to correct the problem is to uninstall, and reinstall PhotoShop. |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer
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Kailua-Kona | HI | USA | Posted: 5:34 PM on 05.11.05 |
->> Installed Tiger Mac OS 10.4 yesterday:
CodeTek Virtual Desktop
Doesn't work. There's a temporary workaround that has you delete its preferences, then you'll have to set-up back up again, plus if you logout or restart you'll have to delete the prefs and set it up again. They're saying 3-4 weeks for a fix.
iSync
For some reason iSync won't run for me, the application launches then quits. So needless to say I can't sync my Palm OS PDA with my Mac's Calendar or Address Book. I can still back-up and install files since that doesn't need iSync. I'm contacting Apple about this as it seems to be a bit of an isolated case as iSync runs fine if I log into my PowerBook under a different account.
Those are the only two issues I've come across so far. Overall the system is snappier. Spotlight and Dashboard are cool, but some of the cool widgets aren't as useful in this fashion since you may want to have the widget open and use a 'real' app at the same time. You can copy and paste from the widget and normal apps. So widgets aren't a replacement for accessory apps.
The Mail 2.0 app unfortunately now has smaller toobar buttons to check mail, delete, etc. so they're harder to hit and the little icons look more alike than before. Mailboxes are now on the left, I used to have it on the right but there doesn't seem to be a way to move it to the right side.
Despite having a 1.25GHz PowerBook 15" with 2GB of RAM HD Video still stutters in QuickTime 7 playback. Even if I quit all other running apps. Don't expect to run smooth HD Video unless you have a G5. |
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Nick Doan, Photographer
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Scottsdale | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:52 PM on 05.11.05 |
| ->> So, what's the consensus? Do we upgrade tonight or not? |
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Scott Varley, Photographer
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Torrance | CA | USA | Posted: 11:56 PM on 05.11.05 |
->> An update on my earlier post regarding OS 10.4 and my LG VX4500 Verizon phone and QuickLink Mobile. I emailed SmithMicro about my problem with the LG phone and QLM and they are aware of the problem. It has to do with "prolific" USB cables and Tigers drivers. Here's the response I got:
Thank you for contacting Smith Micro technical support. If you look at your USB cable, is there a large rectangular box in the middle of the cable? If there is, your USB cable is a prolific cable. I am sure that under Panther or Jaguar, this was all working correctly, right?
When you upgraded to Tiger, Apple changed their USB driver settings around so that the prolific driver no longer works. We are currently aware of this problem and are working hard to restore the prolific driver so that it is compatible with Tiger. In the mean time, our only advice is to wait for an updated driver from us.
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So, after switching my Powerbook back to Panther - where my life is happy and problem free, I'll wait for the update before switching back to Tiger. |
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Mark Smith, Photographer
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Elk City | OK | USA | Posted: 11:56 PM on 05.11.05 |
->> Nick, go man, upgrade, do it!!
(ignore that, I'm a pc user and thought Tiger played golf) |
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Robert Caplin, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Athens | OH | USA | Posted: 12:08 AM on 05.12.05 |
->> Nick,
Well, if I didn't get it so cheaply from the University (they sell to students for $15 per copy) I probably would've waited for the next version on it before I installed. There are neat little features like Spotlight and Dashboard, but in all honesty, i haven't really needed to use them yet. When I upgraded from Jaguar to Panther, there were also some minor glitches, but the sheer fact that Exposé was included in Panther made all the little glitches not matter. Exposé, IMO, is the best thing apple has done, especially for photographers! I feel I could've lived without spotlight and dashboard if it meant not having the problems (even though minor) that I have been experiencing.
One more little issue I have had with Tiger is with iChat: I no longer can send photos within the chat window to people who are not also running Tiger. I also have problems sending files via file transfer (in iChat) too. By file transfer I mean dropping the image onto their name on my buddy list.
Just my take....hope it helps for you.
Robert |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer
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Kailua-Kona | HI | USA | Posted: 1:02 AM on 05.12.05 |
->> Scott, you might want to consider selling that cable and getting one from RPI Wireless. They have a straight USB cable that works. I made sure that I could still get online with my LG cellphone and Tiger upgraded PowerBook.
http://www.rpiwireless.com |
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Scott Varley, Photographer
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Torrance | CA | USA | Posted: 1:20 AM on 05.12.05 |
->> Thanks Baron,
I'll check it out. |
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Steven Georges, Photographer
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Garden Grove | CA | USA | Posted: 1:47 AM on 05.12.05 |
->> Robert,
I'll second that on Exposé, heck, I'll third and forth that!
It is the biggest feature for photographers since PhotoShop. . . or Photo Mechanic. . . or Noise Ninja. . . or that OS that doesn't crash or have viruses. . . or those anti gravity bars I keep in my camera bag. |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer
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Kailua-Kona | HI | USA | Posted: 2:30 AM on 05.12.05 |
->> Found the solution to iSync 2.0 quitting after launch in Tiger.
Application Enhancer (APE) from Unsanity is causing the conflict. Add iSync to the Master Exclusion List of APE via the System Preferences. This application is used to run haxies like Windowshade and FruitMenu. iSync runs fine now. |
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