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Sarah Phipps, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Oklahoma City | OK | USA | Posted: 11:17 PM on 03.23.05 |
->> What is your process to make sure your photos reach your pages as cmyk?? How do prevent those accidental RGBs from sneaking in? We have had two mistakes in the last week!!
We use Quark and News Edit Ique. The pages are sent to film across the street in another building. We never see the negs. |
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Jared Dort, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cottonwood | AZ | usa | Posted: 11:39 PM on 03.23.05 |
->> Sarah,
I haven't used Quark in a while, but I do use Adobe InDesign. There is an option where you can check the link, which also gives you the file information, i.e. color space, location, ect. You might want to see if Quark has that option.
Also, I think Acrobat allows you to check color space.
The other way to make sure RGBs don't slip in is to have a folder just for 4C photos for that issue. Then go through that folder after photos are processed to double check.
CMYK should be the last step before saving it. The photo techs need to be particular on this, as well as the page designers checking the photo.
I have Quark at home, so I'll check it tonight to see what the function is for checking file info, then I'll post back.
Hope this helps |
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
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Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 11:40 PM on 03.23.05 |
| ->> We occasionally had that problem at the paper I worked. Basically we just tried to use the same workflow, and luckily we could catch it on the final proof (most of the time). What a horrible feeling to wake up to a single-color image when it would slip through though. |
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Mark Buffalo, Photographer
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Lonoke | AR | USA | Posted: 11:43 PM on 03.23.05 |
->> Sarah,
I use quark and I try to check and double check the photos. For some reason, when I place the photos in quark, if they are RGB, they look different than if they are CMYK.
I work with my mother and today, I came back to the office and she showed me a copy of our paper and said, "do you like the green basketballs?" Well, Our prepress person had reversed the plates. Then I grabbed one off the press and it was the proper color. It is like a crap shoot.
But for me, I check and recheck and pray that I get it right each time.
Mark |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 12:14 PM on 03.24.05 |
->> Yep, this sounds like a procedure and work-flow problem.
I don't use Quark; I use Photoshop so weigh this comment's value against that.
I found I was missing those little settings I like to have done in my photos as I'm prepping them before printing or submitting. After a while I decided I had too many manual steps and built them into an two actions.
The first assigns my color space (because Nikon cameras use Nikon RGB and I wanted Adobe RGB), sets my default DPI (because I like 240dpi instead of 300dpi or 72dpi), assigns my copyright info to the IPTC field (it does it there though I do it in Photo Mechanic automatically before PS sees the image), adds my watermark, and finally adds several adjustment layers that I always use.
My final-step action saved the "original" cropped image, then would flatten the image, convert to the color-space I needed and save it as a high-res JPG copy.
The little niggling, repetitive steps were killing me because I'd forget one and have to back-track, so the actions helped a lot.
If Quark (or any application) has the ability to record steps or be scripted, or create macros, then those are good candidates for a prep and/or final-step action.
It's really helped my consistency and speed having the images ready to go in a consistent state before I crop and resize or whatever editing is needed.
Hope that helps. |
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Sebastian Szyszka, Photographer
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Lisle | IL | USA | Posted: 12:35 PM on 03.24.05 |
| ->> It's been a while since I've had to endure Quark, but when I did I used Preflight, it always flagged non-CMYK images for me. Don't remember if it was a setting or not, but it would tell me whenever it found RGB images. |
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Pamela Riemenschneider, Photographer
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Topeka | KS | USA | Posted: 12:55 PM on 03.24.05 |
->> At my first job, I forgot one image in the first edition I ever worked.
I felt so stupid!
After that, a post-it note that just had a big
"CMYK?"
right in front of me on the edge of the monitor reminded me.
I think I only forgot once or twice more. The graphics folks caught it when they were prepping the page for negatives, thank goodness.
This isn't any kind of techinical suggestion, but hey, a post-it glaring at you every day helps. Move it around when you get used to seeing it all the time.
Pamela |
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Ron Erdrich, Photographer
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Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 3:53 PM on 03.24.05 |
->> Converting to CYMK is the second step at our paper. We get such a color shift going from RGB that we find it's better to do the final color balancing in 4C. Our monitors are pretty close to WYSIWYG when it comes to the press.
-R- |
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David A. Cantor, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 4:08 PM on 03.24.05 |
->> Sarah,
I'm with Ron....the cmyk conversion is the third step in my pre-press process. After that it's just setting limits which look awful in rgb thus reminding me to go to four color.....
dac |
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