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Frauduent Buyer?
Mark Perlstein, Photographer
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Plano | TX | USA | Posted: 9:27 AM on 03.10.05 |
->> Add this guy to the long list of fruadulent buyers contacting Sportsshooter classified. He wanted to send big cashiers check way over selling price of my gear.
Let's be careful out there
raven20301a@yahoo.com aka Raven Groskreutz |
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Thomas Ciszek, Photographer
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Edison | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:48 AM on 03.10.05 |
->> This was sent to me this morning regarding purchasing a used Canon 1V Film Camera from that same person. Notice that this guy now is purchasing a (Ford Mondeo)..He is sending out so many probably he can't keep the items correct..
Tom Ciszek
Thanks for your Email regarding my offer, and am very gratefull i understand what you said about pics no problem, and i still have another goods to clear in us so i want my shipper to clear everythings at once and I just contacted my client about the cost ofthe (ford mondeo)which is $850 and it's present condition and he is satisifed with it So my client said he will be issuing the cheque of the sum of $4,500 to you, while you deduct the cost of your (ford mondeo) which is $850 and wire the remaining $3,650 to my Personal Assistant through Western Union and he would be the one to make arragements with the shipping company which would be used for shipping arrangements. The excess funds would be wired to my Personal Assistant who would settle the shippers that would come for pickup.So i would want you to send me your fullcontact
information
Name.........
Full address............. Not a P.o Box Address
City...............
State.............
Country..........
Zipcode............
cell/office/home phone number.......................
I will look forward t o the requested informati on as soon as possible so that the payment can be sent out to you immediately |
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Sam Santilli, Photographer
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Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 9:54 AM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> Mark, I got a similar offer, asking the condition of the item. Funny thing is I posted action coverage of the DII East Regional. Another reason to tighten the reins? |
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Harrison Shull, Photographer
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Asheville | NC | USA | Posted: 10:19 AM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> The various "scams" coming in response to ads at SportsShooter is indeed annoying. I have used the SS classifieds to liquidate alot of gear and it was very useful. However, lately the scams are getting more numerous and their grammer less correct but more humorous. I guess it's time to start limiting my listings to SS members only... |
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Pete Lorence, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Loughborough | Leicestershire | UK | Posted: 10:46 AM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> Yea, they're pretty common over here too, largely from Nigeria apparently. |
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Zach Honig, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 11:08 AM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> Maybe we could choose to limit listings to The United States and Canada only (optional, with a check box similar to the 'SS members only'). I checked out this raven fellow, and the IP address was traced back to Nigeria. Can't we restrict access to a block of Nigerian IP addresses (or any other country that we don't want to sell to)? Worth noting - the email I received was from 'raven20301g@yahoo.com' - a 'g' at the end, not 'a'. Does this mean that they have a seperate account for each transaction, making it impossible to block their email address? Or it could just be a typo. |
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Devin Bruce, Photographer
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Sacramento | CA | USA | Posted: 11:09 AM on 03.10.05 |
->> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3887493.stm
The link above goes to the BBC website - it's a funny and informative read about the Nigerian 419 scams and a website called 419eater.com .
From what they say on the website, Nigerian scams pull in an estimated $200mil annually. Who falls for this kind of stuff? It just sounds so fishy. |
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Robert Caplin, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Athens | OH | USA | Posted: 11:30 AM on 03.10.05 |
->> I've never had a problem when limiting classifieds to SS members only. I've also sold all the items I've listed on the site when only offering to SS members. There are a ton of members who will first look here to buy before eBay. There is a certain trust, I think, when buying from a SS member who is only listing the items to other members.
A few weeks ago I put up an ad for myself for future work and didn't make it for SS members only. This way anyone can contact me about the ad (which is a plus). I did, however get scam mail from someone wanting to buy "my items"...funny thing is that I, myself, am the "items":
"Hello ,
I'm using this medium to make enquiry on your item, will ike you to get back to me ASAP. so that we can discusson the payment of the items. Also i will like you to include the pics if available.Also include the final asking price. thanks so much for your co operation.Urgent response needed"
Just don't be stupid about iffy emails...they go right to my trash can. Same with any emails from G.J. McCarthy. j/k gerry! :-)
Robert |
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Jack Howard, Photographer
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Somerville | NJ | USA | Posted: 11:35 AM on 03.10.05 |
->> Lately, the biggest email hooha I've gotten is close to 100 of the same :
Hello, we tried contacting you a while ago about the lowest mortg)age rates...
Anyone else getting these? |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 11:44 AM on 03.10.05 |
->> Last week Jason put in some extra code that will only display the ad detail to members who are logged in.
If you check the "SportsShooters only" box that code will kick in and keep non-members from seeing the ads. |
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Zach Honig, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 11:47 AM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> I would choose 'SS Members only', but most of my sales (actually all, I believe) have been to non-members. |
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wally raynes, Photographer
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Donsieders | Germany | | Posted: 12:05 PM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> I'm in the final stages of tagging along a persistent scammer from Rumania offering 20D for $400 each. This mornings email stated he just shipped two 20D's to my APO address and upon receipt he will send me instructions how to settle payment. We'll see where it all leads, but for the life of me, I can't figure out the scam. |
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 12:17 PM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> The way I've always worked on-line sales (including ebay) is to take personal checks or money orders only (no PayPal as they suck) and insist that they clear, completely, into my bank account before shipping. Unless it's a money order that I can cash locally. |
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Zach Honig, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 12:27 PM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> If you make sure that you're shipping to a Paypal confirmed address, then you should be fine. Don't ever use Western Union though. |
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Zach Honig, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 12:28 PM on 03.10.05 |
->> Wally -
That does seem like an unusual scam. Please let us know when the cameras arrive. |
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wally raynes, Photographer
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Donsieders | Germany | | Posted: 1:19 PM on 03.10.05 |
->> Zach - His backward approach in the art of scamming is quite entertaining. I'm not holding my breath on this one, I'll probably end up with a D-D-D-Powerbook!! The scammers strike back!
Cheers,
Wally |
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Marvin Gentry, Photographer
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Birmingham/Pelham | AL | USA | Posted: 3:37 PM on 03.10.05 |
| ->> why doesn't sportshooter make all classifieds members only . Then if a person would like to apply for a trial membership they can but must you a registered email address. |
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Jack Howard, Photographer
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Somerville | NJ | USA | Posted: 5:11 PM on 03.10.05 |
->> Marvin, I think it is an option now, so that those who are willing to consider selling outside of SS.com have that option.
I've posted Available to shoot event ads and gotten replies from photo buyers who are not members of the site, and I was happy for that.
Personally I think the new SS.com member-only code option is a perfect workaround for those who want it only for logged-in members to view, as well as for those members who have an item for sale or a service to offer to anyone, SS.com member or not.
I'm still waiting for my lucky Spanish Internet lottery pay-off though... :) |
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Chris Rozema, Photographer, Assistant
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Rockford | MI | USA | Posted: 12:39 AM on 03.11.05 |
->> I agree with Zach, don't send to other countries if they used an unconfirmed PayPal account for payment, since PayPal won't back you if someone comes back months later and said they didn't authorize that purchase.
Got burned on this -- the son bought our templates using his mother's credit card for their photography business and the mother contested it since she didn't authorize it. But the son said to us and PayPal he received the product, is happy with it, using it and posting samples using it on his website. The money was taken out of our account and PayPal said they are "going to look into this" and work on getting or money back, yeah right that was 3 months ago and still nothing.
But would like to know why not use Western Union, since we get asked once and awhile if we accept this type of payment? What's the scam there? |
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Michael Myers, Photographer
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Miami Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 2:39 AM on 03.11.05 |
->> Jim Colburn included the following words in what he said about payment: "The way I've always worked on-line sales is to take personal checks or money orders only and insist that they clear, completely, into my bank account before shipping."
How long after checks clear, before the bank won't take the money back anyway if something proves to be wrong? Is there any kind of time limit after which you can really feel "safe"?
Also, regarding what Chris just said about paypal, is that still a concern if the buyer's account is not "unconfirmed"? If the account is confirmed, is it safe to ship, knowing that the payment is safe? |
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Chris Rozema, Photographer, Assistant
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Rockford | MI | USA | Posted: 1:35 PM on 03.11.05 |
->> Michael, I should have also added it should be a verified account too. That way, I believe, that if a problem like above occurs then PayPal won't take the funds from your account. But I would read over their Sellers Protection policy to be sure. We have been using PayPal for over a year and a half and do several transactions a day and this is the 1st time there was a problem. I just found it hard to believe that PayPal took the money back after learning all the details.
So just be careful. |
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Ben Burgeson, Student/Intern, Photographer
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San Marcos | CA | USA | Posted: 6:46 PM on 03.12.05 |
->> HOly crap!
I got the same offer! Anyone been jacked by this punk? heh, I was getting pretty excited for a minute there |
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Mark Perlstein, Photographer
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Plano | TX | USA | Posted: 8:23 PM on 03.12.05 |
| ->> I kind of wish I had accepted the bogus cashiers check, just for the fun of it. Next time. |
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 1:14 AM on 03.13.05 |
->> ->> Jim Colburn included the following words in what he said about payment: "The way I've always worked on-line sales is to take personal checks or money orders only and insist that they clear, completely, into my bank account before shipping."
How long after checks clear, before the bank won't take the money back anyway if something proves to be wrong? Is there any kind of time limit after which you can really feel "safe"?
Also, regarding what Chris just said about paypal, is that still a concern if the buyer's account is not "unconfirmed"? If the account is confirmed, is it safe to ship, knowing that the payment is safe
I wait until the bank posts it to my account and I never accept PayPal. Once they have your bank account information they can mess with it to their hearts content and you've got no come back. |
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