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PhotoMechanic 4.3 is available
Mike Brice, Photographer
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Northwood | OH | USA | Posted: 12:14 AM on 01.15.05 |
->> The new version is now available, and like with every release it has some great added features, including the ability to work with raw and jpeg files.
http://www.camerabits.com |
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Billy Suratt, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Russell Springs | KY | USA | Posted: 12:43 AM on 01.15.05 |
->> In addition to the new enhanced RAW+JPEG support, now you can ingest in the backround while working with your contact sheet in the foreground. You can also rename files while they're being ingested now, which is another great feature.
Last but not least, the country code field has been added to the IPTC Stationery Pad.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but these are the enhancements I'm most excited about. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 1:52 AM on 01.15.05 |
->> figures...my free update offer just ended!
Bummer
Debbie |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 2:00 AM on 01.15.05 |
->> It's also faster at displaying thumbnails and previews.
The combining of the raw + jpeg duos in the display is sweet. You can toggle it on and off at will, but being able to drag the pair around as one, or display them as one is great. Of course you'll forget once or twice and wonder where the raw files went, but it's nice.
Also, you can ZOOM in the preview! And PAN! Sweeeet!
Some of the key-presses are changed though, so check the readme. |
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Michael Zito, Photographer
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West Hills | CA | USA | Posted: 2:27 AM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> I downloaded 4.3, and when I try to launch, it keeps quiting. (MAC version) |
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Mike Brice, Photographer
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Northwood | OH | USA | Posted: 2:38 AM on 01.15.05 |
->> Michael,
I had the same problem when I used Safari to download. I switched and used Internet explorer and it worked fine, |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer
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Kailua-Kona | HI | USA | Posted: 3:17 AM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> Just Option-Click on the Download dmg.gz link when in Safari, it downloads fine. |
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Jethro Soudant, Photographer
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Buffalo | NY | USA | Posted: 9:19 AM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> Anyone know if there is a difference between buying PM disc vs. download. It appears to be $40 cheaper to get the Lexar distributed disc from B&H as opposed to downloaded directly from camerabits. Do they both allow 1 years free upgrade? Does the download have a good pdf manual? Thanks |
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Jerome Davis, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 11:51 AM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> I don't see it. All I see is 4.2.1. Was it Pulled? |
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Jerome Davis, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 11:59 AM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> I found it. It doesn't show as 4.3 with Safari. I just downloaded it with explorer. Thanks |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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New England | | USA | Posted: 12:17 PM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> Can someone send me a link to 4.3? I do not have IE, and cannot seem to find 4.3 on Netscape or FireFox |
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Jerome Davis, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 12:19 PM on 01.15.05 |
->> Steve and others using Safari. Go to the download page. When you get there hold down the shift and hit the reload key, that will bring 4.3 up in Safari.
jerome |
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
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Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 1:32 PM on 01.15.05 |
->> I also noticed that if I tried to use the software update option from within PM 4.2.1, that it would not find the newer version. I went directly to the Camerabits site and downloaded from there.
By the way, I had no problem downloading with Safari.
I've only used it briefly and therefore only have a basic impression... but it does seem faster, and the background ingesting is very nice to finally have. As is raw and jpeg pairing. If I have a complaint, it seems as though version 4.3 is more CPU intensive, which seems to bog down my (relatively old) G4 tower when switching to other apps. |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 1:35 PM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> Keeps crashing for me on start-up and I'm also on a Apple G5. |
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Jake Schoellkopf, Photographer
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Albuquerque | NM | USA | Posted: 1:47 PM on 01.15.05 |
->> When I open a photo in PM 4.3 (Mac version) from the contact sheet to look at it closer I notice that in the info pane on the right that my ICC profile shows that the image was shot in sRGB even though on my EOS 20D I have the menu setting on Adobe RGB. This is in shooting RAW files. It doesn't do it with my MkII 1D. Anybody else seeing this?
Jake |
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Michael Zito, Photographer
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West Hills | CA | USA | Posted: 1:47 PM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> On My desk top MAC, the update loaded Fine, on my Powerbook G4 it keeps crashing on start-up. Tried it with Safari, Explorer, and Nerscape, (also tried downloading with opyion click, same result) |
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Billy Suratt, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Mike Isler, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | US | Posted: 2:22 PM on 01.15.05 |
->> Jethro,
I purchased the Lexar-boxed version at a retail store yesterday morning, then came home to read about the update here on SS. After installing PM from the CD, I downloaded the update and there was no problem at all. Presto! PM 4.3
Mike |
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Julian Jenkins, Photographer
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Canyon Country | CA | USA | Posted: 4:17 PM on 01.15.05 |
->> I'm with Susan, my update was out in Nov. 2004. I'll pluck down the green, it's worth it. Great tool for workflow.
Julian |
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Dirk Dewachter, Photographer
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Playa Del Rey | CA | USA | Posted: 9:51 PM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> Susan, who is susan? |
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Michael Zito, Photographer
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West Hills | CA | USA | Posted: 10:13 PM on 01.15.05 |
| ->> For those of you whose PhotoMechanic 4.3 keeps crashing at start-up, they just fixed the problem, download new 4.3 |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 1:48 PM on 01.16.05 |
->> "When I open a photo in PM 4.3 (Mac version) from the contact sheet to look at it closer I notice that in the info pane on the right that my ICC profile shows that the image was shot in sRGB even though on my EOS 20D I have the menu setting on Adobe RGB. This is in shooting RAW files. It doesn't do it with my MkII 1D. Anybody else seeing this?"
I can confirm this problem with images from our 20Ds. The color-space is set correctly in the 20D but appears to be munged during the ingest. I've been talking (via email) with the appropriate person at Camera Bits so they're aware of it and should have an answer for us ASAP.
For now I'd say to reset the ICC settings for images you see that are displaying the wrong color-space or to tell PM to not adjust/override color-space during ingest. |
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Kevin Kreck, Photographer
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Colorado Springs | CO | USA | Posted: 2:18 PM on 01.16.05 |
| ->> On a Mac G4, ours is crashing when moving quickly from one photo to the next in the browse mode using the keyboard arrows after moving through a dozen or so photos. Have an email into CameraBits suppport, just checking to see if any others having same problem. |
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Cameron Davidson, Photographer
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Arlington | VA | USA | Posted: 9:57 PM on 01.16.05 |
| ->> Mine is crashing on my G5. I've written to Camera Bits customer support and hopefully, will receive an answer tomorrow. |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 10:38 PM on 01.16.05 |
| ->> Camera Bits will probably not be in-house tomorrow as it's a holiday. However, trust me, they do lurk here and will know what's up. |
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Michael Coons, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 2:44 AM on 01.17.05 |
->> I'm having no problems on my ibook G3. I have tried moving through photos using the arrows and the scrool wheel on the mouse.
BTW: Kirk Baker of Camera Bits reads and posts quite often, even after business hours, to robgalbraith.com in the Photo Browsers forum so if you have any problems he can help. |
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Robert G. Stevens, Photographer
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Halifax | NS | Canada | Posted: 9:22 AM on 01.17.05 |
->> What is up with software releases being made the day before a Holiday? I just downloaded it, but my ver 4.2 is too old to be eligible for the update. Camerabits is closed, so no posiblility to purchase the upgrade. I must now either wait until they are open, or reload the old version.
Canon did the same thing with the DPP update. They released it the night before an American holiday and there was a bug in the download. It took a few days for them to straighten it out.
Back to Version 4.3; I had been asking for a year or two for the linking of the RAWS and JPEGs. This alone is worth buying the new version. Currently, when editing down, I have to tag both the RAWs and the JPEGs, then select all the tagged images and make sure I have all the pairs.
Anybody that hasn't tried PhotoMechanic should take this new release as an opportunity to try it out.
Robert |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 2:33 PM on 01.18.05 |
| ->> The software was scheduled to release the WEEK before the holiday. It went long. That happens. |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 2:33 PM on 01.18.05 |
->> I just got word from Camera Bits they've found the problem with the 20D ICC profiles. It's tied up in some craziness that Canon does with the images (1DMkII and 1DsMkII files use different settings and markers which threw them off.)
They've also squished a few other minor bugs and will be releasing a 4.3.1 in the next few days. |
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 12:37 PM on 01.20.05 |
->> OK,
So here's a pretty stupid question I can't seem to find the answer to right now:
In reference to PM's new JPEG+RAW support, does that mean the program will allow you to tweak the RAWS and process them into a file usable by PhotoShop; or is it simply allowing you to look at the RAWs, meaning that one would still need another program to process these files.
Hope that question made sense -- again, I'm sure it's stupid, but I figured I'd ask before making a fool of myself at the office later.
Oh who am I kidding ... there's nothing I can do about that!
Thanks in advance,
- gerry - |
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Ben Chrisman, Photographer
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Santa Fe | NM | USA | Posted: 12:45 PM on 01.20.05 |
->> gerry,
unless you have Photoshop CS or a raw plugin for 7, I think it is just to view the RAWs, not process them.
ben |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
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Round Rock (Austin) | TX | US | Posted: 12:47 PM on 01.20.05 |
| ->> Gerry, the new support simply displays a single thumbnail if you shoot RAW + JPEG, whereas before you would see two seperate thumbnails. You will still need an external program to "process" the RAWs into another format. |
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 12:59 PM on 01.20.05 |
| ->> Thanks guys. |
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Michael Coons, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Dan Powers, Photographer
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Appleton | WI | USA | Posted: 11:22 PM on 01.20.05 |
| ->> If you guys are working at a newspaper and are on a network system, can you injest your images to any server? We can't...only the desktop. Any thoughts...Dan. |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
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Round Rock (Austin) | TX | US | Posted: 10:19 AM on 01.21.05 |
->> Dan, I typically Ingest to my workstation but went ahead and tried it across the network. I'm on OS 10.3.7 client using PM 4.3.1 and our server is an ASIP machine. I just selected a network folder for my "Primary Destination" on the Ingest Disks dialog and it worked fine.
If you're on a Windows client you might have to have the network drive "mapped" to a drive letter on the client machine, but either way you should just be able to browse to any folder (network or local) and set it as your "Primary or Secondary Destination." |
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Denny Medley, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Kansas City | MO | USA | Posted: 4:33 PM on 01.21.05 |
->> Is anyone still having problems with the version released later today? I just re-downloaded, dragged to my Applications folder, started PM and tried to injest a disk, and PM shut down.
Just wondering if I'm the only one on the planet that's still having problems? |
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Denny Medley, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Kansas City | MO | USA | Posted: 11:35 PM on 01.21.05 |
->> Update to my last post:
Kirk Baker, Sr. Software Engineer for Camera Bits, emailed me off line after reading my last post. Through various log checking, several emails, and sending him information on what was causing the crash, I now have a stable, non-crashing version wich works wonderfully!
I would just like everyone to know that I am absolutely BLOWN AWAY by the quick response, professionalism, concern and willingness to work with the customer to quickly resolve the problem, which could happen to anyone. I sincerely hope Kirk's boss is reading this as well, because he deserves a raise for the extra effort he put into resolving this issue. Apparently, the crashing was caused by trying to ingest files while a blank contact sheet was open. This has been fixed, and Kirk stated that an update would probably be released soon. (I hope I'm not speaking out of turn by mentioning that). However, this problem was not specific to my PowerBook G4, and to have a tool that gets used every day not work correctly - it just ain't no fun.
Again, thank you Kirk for your help - if only ALL customer service or tech support was anywhere close to what you've shown in resolving this issue the world would be a much better place! |
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Frank Victores, Photographer
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Ft Thomas | KY | USA | Posted: 10:33 AM on 01.22.05 |
->> Is anyone having problems ingesting their images ?
I'm only getting about have of the images that are on my cards.
I've tried it on 3 different computers and having the same results.
It's the windows version.
Any help ?
Thanks |
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Jethro Soudant, Photographer
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Buffalo | NY | USA | Posted: 1:24 PM on 01.22.05 |
->> I just purchased PM this week, so am still learning. I'm using PM 4.3.1 with Mac OS 10.2.8. When I separate keywords in the IPTC statioary pad with commas, then send it to PS CS, those commas turn into semi colons on the file info. Is this me being stupid, or just the way it is? I only ask because my agency is pretty tight about spacing and punctuation in transmitted files.
Also, as I try to implement PM into my mostly RAW workflow, my wife (who is the tech guru of the household) thinks I am making more work for myself since PS CS now has a file browser and batch captioning capabilities. Anyone have a good argument for me to get her to understand the benifits of using PhotoMechanic in conjunction with PS CS, as opposed to just photoshop.
Thanks |
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Billy Suratt, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Russell Springs | KY | USA | Posted: 4:05 PM on 01.22.05 |
| ->> Frank: Any chance you're locking some of the files in your camera and then telling Photo Mechanic to just ingest the locked files? |
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Frank Victores, Photographer
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Ft Thomas | KY | USA | Posted: 10:01 PM on 01.22.05 |
->> Thanks for the advice.
I don't know what the problem is.
fv |
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Chris Russick, Student/Intern, Photographer
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St. Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 11:35 PM on 01.22.05 |
->> A little help please. I've been trying to crop with the new version and I can get one good crop...
If I try to go to the next picture, I cannot use the crop tool. Has anybody had this problem too? I cannot remove crops that have been added either. If I close the app, I can start cropping again for a short period but it seems to freeze up that tool again.
I'm using the PC version.
Any ideas please?
thanks in advance,
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Gary Solomons, Photographer
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Collierville | TN | USA | Posted: 12:46 AM on 01.23.05 |
| ->> Chris I just emailed Camerabits..I am running OS-X and I cant crop at all. I can choose the tool and select the area but thats it. I have pushed and clicked on everything and nothing will make it do the crop action. |
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Chris Russick, Student/Intern, Photographer
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St. Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 10:25 AM on 01.23.05 |
->> I updated from 4.3 to 4.3.1 and it helped a little. I can now crop 3-4 times and forget about removing a crop or changing it's location. If I do change it's location, its constraints (8x10) change to 10x8 and it freezes.
If Camerabits says anything good, could you post it for everybody's benefit?
Chris |
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Gary Solomons, Photographer
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Collierville | TN | USA | Posted: 11:17 AM on 01.23.05 |
->> I must say Camera Bits knows about customer service. Kirk emailed me this morning (Sunday) concerning my above post. I was not able to crop in Photo Mechanic and he explained the way the crop works. Here is his email for anyone else who has the same problem I had:
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Crops and rotations are both "soft
edits". They do not affect the actual
image permanently in any way. If you
want them to "take" then you must do
a Save As... command and save them
as a new file. These edits will also be
performed when a photo is uploaded
to a FTP server, sent as an email
attachment, printed, or exported to an
HTML gallery, so everything is quite
automatic.
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Thanks Kirk |
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Chris Russick, Student/Intern, Photographer
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St. Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 10:10 AM on 01.25.05 |
->> They contacted me directly too. I sent them back an email detailing how the problems occur. I've heard nothing back yet though. I'll post what I find out when I get an answer. My app is actually freezing up so you can't do anything after a crop. I've reinstalled it several times with no luck.
Chris |
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Billy Suratt, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Russell Springs | KY | USA | Posted: 1:03 PM on 01.26.05 |
->> Chris and Frank: The problems you're experiencing *could* be caused by using a "cracked" password for Photo Mechanic. Password cracking is using a software application to either decrypt passwords or otherwise disable password protection.
PM has known erratic behavior issues when a cracked password has been used. According to Camera Bits, these symptoms can include files not being ingested and the crop tool causing a lockup.
Did you buy your software from a reputable source? Many unscrupulous individuals sell very legitimate-looking counterfeit versions of software with bogus registration info that might not be readily apparent. I know I got stuck with a counterfeit video editing suite last year and it was one of the finest fakes I've ever seen (they even reproduced the manufacturer's copyright info on the label!).
If this should be the case, I suggest you contact Camera Bits directly and let them know what's going on. Their contact info can be found at http://www.camerabits.com/pages/CB.html.
Jethro: A big advantage to using Photo Mechanic (for me, at least) is its adherence to IPTC standards. Photoshop adheres to some standards, throws some standards totally out the window and uses its own standards in other cases. If you expect clients to be able to read your metadata (captions), then standards are your friend. |
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