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Used Canon 1D vs. New Canon 20d
Scott Lukaitis, Photographer
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Brick | NJ | USA | Posted: 4:17 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> Used Canon 1D vs. New Canon 20d.
Which would be a better buy for me. I am a beginning freelance motorcycle photographer.
I am getting rid of my 10d's now and looking to upgrade. |
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Mike Doran, Photographer
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Petaluma | CA | U.S.A. | Posted: 4:32 PM on 12.27.04 |
| ->> IMHO as a motorcycle racing photographer the 1D is the better bet as it has great sealing from the elements and providing that it has a low actuations count a better chance of lasting longer due to a body that is built stronger.The 1D I have has 180,000 actuations and it is still going strong.The other thing you might do is check out each one at an event and see which one works better for you.This comment will probably come back to haunt me as I am getting ready to buy a 20D as a backup. |
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Gavin Ellis, Photographer
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Randy Janoski, Photographer
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Chapel Hill | TN | USA | Posted: 5:16 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> Scott,
I can give you two thoughts to consider in making your decision.
For assignment desk and editing (national) the majority of Canon files I see are still from the 1D. These images are going to wire, newspapers and magazines.
Most all of the PJ's I know that have purchased the MKII,
1. have all MKII's or 2. have kept a 1D as their second/third body and or use it as their main body when the assignment dictates it. |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 5:55 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> I have both, and consider the 1D the primary body and the 20D the backup.
The 20D is better at low-light situations, and it's lighter and smaller, so it's the one I'd use when I want better evening shots when there's not enough ambient light, or if I wanted something easy to stow in a pack.
The 1D feels like what you'd expect a "pro" camera to feel like. It's solid and "manly". The 20D feels good, especially with the battery pack, but its smaller size doesn't fit my hands as well. (My wife loves hers because she has small hands.)
Otherwise I think they're about the same. |
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Scott Lukaitis, Photographer
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Brick | NJ | USA | Posted: 6:14 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> Gavin
Thanks for the link to that older thread. It answered a bunch of questions for me. I'll think it over a couple of more days and then make my decision. |
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Rick Burnham, Photographer
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Enfield | CT | USA | Posted: 7:03 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> Scott
Try the SS Equipment Q&A you may got a lot more responses there than on the board. I have used it for similar type questions and have gotten at least 10 responses and as many as 93.
Rick |
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Brian Jackson, Photographer, Photo Editor
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South San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 7:04 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> Another thing to think about is if you are ever working with a group of photographers or when you have 2 cameras, the filenames from the 1D all have unique names.
If you're shooting with 2 20D's, there is a very real possibility that the filenames could interfear with each other when you copy them to your local disk. |
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Joshua Brown, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Salt Lake City | UT | USA | Posted: 7:14 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> All I can tell you is that I used my 1D for the last 2 years, bought a 20D last month, and now the 1D sits on my desk for 90 percent of what I do. The files are beautful and I just can't go back . If sports is your primary work then you have to have the speed, but its not a big percentage of what I do.
I will say that my timing has improved with the 20D. I have been forced to think about when I am pushing that shutter down rather than spray the whole scene and hope I get something good. |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 7:21 PM on 12.27.04 |
| ->> 1D. |
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Mike Mohaupt, Student/Intern
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Grand Forks | ND | USA | Posted: 8:19 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> Robert put together a good article in the news letter, hope you didn't miss it. http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/1316
I went from the 1D to the 20D because i shoot alot of posters for my university. Tough switch but worth it.... Until I can get a 1DmkII....
~Mike |
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Randy Fellers, Photographer
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Batesburg-Leesville | SC | USA | Posted: 9:14 PM on 12.27.04 |
->> I will take delivery of a 20D soon, I hope.
I currently use the 1V and have reached a point where the advantages of digital over film will make a significant difference in what I do. I’ll still shoot film for some favorite things, but that’s irrelevant.
I would rather have purchased a mkII, but the funds just aren’t flexible enough for that right now. I like the 1D a lot, however, I choose the 20D because I feel like the file size and low-light capabilities will mean more to me right now and I am comfortable enough with the reviews for the camera.
I look forward to making the 20D a second body one day and I am excited about what it will do for me right now.
Just a jingle of my .02 |
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
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Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 1:02 AM on 12.28.04 |
->> "If you're shooting with 2 20D's, there is a very real possibility that the filenames could interfear with each other when you copy them to your local disk"
If you use Photo Mechanic to ingest the CF cards, it'll keep filenames from colliding and you can set the identifying info for the photographer. Then afterwards use PM to rename using a mask that contains the camera ID ("{serialnum}").
Canon uses a unique identifying name in each camera, which is what is unique about the 1D names. That identifier is embedded in the IPTC fields on the 20D image files, so PM can extract it easily. |
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Tom Fluegge, Photographer
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Crystal Lake | IL | USA | Posted: 2:04 AM on 12.28.04 |
| ->> 20d!!111one |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Tucson | AZ | USA | Posted: 5:47 AM on 12.28.04 |
->> I would say if you're not shooting sports a lot, then the 20D is a great camera. The file size is awesome.
When I shot volleyball and basketball with the 20D, the focus searched too much and it did not focus track as well as the 1D IMHO. I never used it outdoors during daylight conditions for sports, but indoors I found it lacking, unlike the 1D which I feel is more responsive. I also felt there was still too much of a shutter lag issue. Canon also rates the motor at 5 fps. It sure did not feel like 5 fps to me. More like 3, or so it seemed. |
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Craig Peterson, Photographer
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St. Petersburg | FL | US | Posted: 1:41 PM on 12.28.04 |
->> I shoot NASCAR races with a 20D as my main camera, and do not have any focusing issues with it. I also use it to shoot high school sports in poorly lit gyms and fields. Although the focusing struggles more in low light, I still have never had a problem with getting the images I need in focus. The file size and low noise at high ISO's is amazing. I never use flash and the files look great. (see my member page and links to high school gallery for examples)
When I purchased my 20D I was thinking of a used 1D but considering I could get a NEW camera for less than a USED one, and after seeing the files of the 20D, my choice was easy. |
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Jose Luis Sanchez de Pablos, Photographer
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Aranjuez | Spain | Madrid-Spain | Posted: 4:18 PM on 12.28.04 |
->> I have both the 1D and 20D. The 20D is a good complement for the 1D as second body for some situations, specially low light situation. Only one cant beat (a little)the 1D, is the MkII. The 1D is a very good tool, the 20D can´t replacement the 1D.
Without dude, the 1D. |
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Dave Kennedy, Photographer
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Nanuet | NY | US | Posted: 11:48 AM on 12.29.04 |
->> 1D. If you want to shoot speed you want some speed yourself.
DK |
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Scott Lukaitis, Photographer
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Brick | NJ | USA | Posted: 8:55 PM on 12.30.04 |
->> Thanks to everyone for all the advice. I've finally decided to get one of each. That way I figure I'll have the best of both worlds.
I've only been on the board for a short time and everyone on here has been a big help.
-Scott |
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Roddy MacLeod, Photographer
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Bensheim | Hessen | Germany | Posted: 6:34 AM on 12.31.04 |
->> Hey Scott.. I am coming in a little late on this but I think you received some great advice here. The combo 20D and 1D will be great for you. I am going to buy the 1D if I don't get the Mark II this Spring. Good luck with it!
Roddy |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 10:40 AM on 12.31.04 |
->> I just switched to Canon. I ordered a Mark II and a D20. The file size for the D20 was a big factor. If I'm strobing basketball or VB, the FPS obviously isn't a issue.
File size... it's a good...err GREAT thing.
Michael |
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