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How does your state compare?
Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 11:51 AM on 06.04.04
->> I did come quick counting to see how badly the guys out west are killing us in numbers on the site (yes, I am very bored). Some figures might be off by a few.
20 AB
16 AL
16 AR
29 AZ
15 BC
417 CA
46 CO
30 CT
11 DC
106 FL
38 GA
11 HI
13 IA
75 IL
47 IN
29 KS
25 KY
9 LA
54 MA
41 MD
37 MI
32 MN
42 MO
7 MT
63 NC
11 NE
18 NH
62 NJ
10 NM
11 NV
116 NY
80 OH
15 OK
38 OR
60 PA
11 SC
21 TN
113 TX
16 UT
42 VA
7 VT
56 WA
35 WI
4 WV
3 WY
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 11:52 AM on 06.04.04
->> And a typo to boot. How embarrassing.
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Marc F. Henning, Photographer
Bentonville | AR | USA | Posted: 11:57 AM on 06.04.04
->> wesley,

i've lobbied to the shooters at my paper, our competitors and local freelancers who haven't joined sportsshooter to join. most don't understand that ss isn't just for sports photographers (anymore), but is a growing community of exceptional photojournalists and budding amateurs.

it's unfortunate because there is a great pool of talented shooters here in northwest arkansas, as well as elsewhere in the state.

marc
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Mark Buffalo, Photographer
Lonoke | AR | USA | Posted: 12:09 PM on 06.04.04
->> Marc,
I've tried the same down here in Central Arkansas...I'm always talking about sportsshooter and one guy from Searcy joined after we talked about it. I get more than my $25 worth out of this site.

BTW, I'll be in NWA in a couple of weeks for the all-star games. Hope to see you there!

Mark
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Brian Jackson, Photographer, Photo Editor
South San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 12:10 PM on 06.04.04
->> Yes, but would be really impressive is if you correlated these numbers to the to population of the states and gave us some percentage breakdowns!

State population of US -> SS members from that state

You might need to weed out those foreigners though :-D Or better yet, stick the Canadian provinces in the comaprison. Probably SOL with any sort of representation from Europe, Asia and Australia being any where near a representative sample.

You can snag all the US data from the US Census Bureau www.census.gov. I'm sure the same data is out there for Canada.

If you have some free cycles, this would be a great opportunity to learn some perl (www.perl.org) & (www.perl.com). Save off the 2 files, read them into hashes, cross reference the states in each list and the members v. US population and then generate some stats for each. Shouldn't be more than 30-40 lines of code(if you document well :)
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 12:12 PM on 06.04.04
->> I'm not THAT bored.
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Brian Jackson, Photographer, Photo Editor
South San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 12:31 PM on 06.04.04
->> comaprison?!?! Comparison, ah, that's better.

Wes, it shouldn't be too difficult. Maybe I'll whip the results together at lunch in a few hours :)
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Michael P. King, Photographer, Student/Intern
Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 12:33 PM on 06.04.04
->> There's not one single person from Alaska??!! I knew we were missing somebody.

They *do* have quite a few media photographers... and plus its a region we rarely see photos from.
http://www.asmpalaska.org/


--MK
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Rob Kerr, Photographer
Bend | OR | US | Posted: 1:03 PM on 06.04.04
->> Thanks for the total numbers, but I'm interested in the quality...any takers on clip contest results by state for total state points? (just taking advantage of the awesome caliber of Sol Neelman, Thomas Boyd, Brian Davies, Bruce Ely, Ryan Gardner, Andy Bronson, Chris Pietsch etc to get the free-ride of living in the same state they do;])
-rob.
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Michael Hickey, Photographer
Muncie | IN | USA | Posted: 1:47 PM on 06.04.04
->> We're beating KY and MI...go Hoosiers!
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Rick Burnham, Photographer
Enfield | CT | USA | Posted: 2:09 PM on 06.04.04
->> You missed the 3 Rhode Island members but they are interesting totals. My small state of CT has 30 members which kind of surprises me.
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 2:14 PM on 06.04.04
->> I skipped over some places and probably combined a few. I originally intended to only count TN and Cali, but kept going.
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Ed J. Szalajeski, Photographer, Photo Editor
Yarmouth | ME | USA | Posted: 2:19 PM on 06.04.04
->> Maine

ME 8
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Ed J. Szalajeski, Photographer, Photo Editor
Yarmouth | ME | USA | Posted: 2:22 PM on 06.04.04
->> BTW: I do not see any members in my state from the bigger daily.

I lobbied a few from the smaller papers but they are lurkers.. (Biddeford Journal, Falmouth Forcaster, Lewiston Journal, ect).

Ed Szalajeski
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Thad Parsons, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 2:28 PM on 06.04.04
->> Anybody bored want to get foreign totals together ...

(I will be adding to their ranks soon ...)
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John Cordes, Photographer
Orange County | CA | USA | Posted: 2:47 PM on 06.04.04
->> If Brian does a breakdown of stats using U.S. government links and posts them, he has to move to Alaska.
San Fran has alot to do, seafood to eat and stuff yet to be photographed, so a posting of this nature will jeopardize ALL California privileges.
Sorry, but I am enforcing rule #132 of things you can't do as a bay area shooter.
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Brian Jackson, Photographer, Photo Editor
South San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 4:15 PM on 06.04.04
->> John- Funny thing is that I was just about to post those numbers, sorted by population density of each state in decending order :-) I can add the Canada numbers by hand, they're not that much...

Since when does a SoCal guy get to restrict what the bay area can do? Besides, I was born in Hawa'ii and grew up in Texas. I just live in California(going into year 11 now, just not all at once)
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John Cordes, Photographer
Orange County | CA | USA | Posted: 5:05 PM on 06.04.04
->> Brian.

All the bay area guys are out in the sunshine taking pictures and could not inform you of the rules you were about to violate.

So, I as the only other Californian currently with nothing better to do, am enforcing the rules as part of rule #64 and do not try to use rule #167 section B to get around all this pal, cause I am watching you.
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
Amherst | MA | USA | Posted: 5:11 PM on 06.04.04
->> Rick:

Mass has more than Conn.....because Conn gets all the glory of having UConn. We need to beat you somehow :0)
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 5:15 PM on 06.04.04
->> Just to start things out by sorting it so it's a bit more readable ...

45 values
CA 417
NY 116
TX 113
FL 106
OH 80
IL 75
NC 63
NJ 62
PA 60
WA 56
MA 54
IN 47
CO 46
VA 42
MO 42
MD 41
OR 38
GA 38
MI 37
WI 35
MN 32
CT 30
AZ 29
KS 29
KY 25
TN 21
AB 20
NH 18
AL 16
UT 16
AR 16
BC 15
OK 15
IA 13
SC 11
HI 11
NE 11
DC 11
NV 11
NM 10
LA 9
MT 7
VT 7
WV 4
WY 3
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Clark Brooks, Photographer, Photo Editor
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 5:46 PM on 06.04.04
->> Let's go Illinois. Beat the bushes for new members so we can beat the Buckeyes! We may not do it in football but let's do it where it counts!
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Denis Rochefort, Student/Intern, Photographer
Flint | MI | USA | Posted: 6:18 PM on 06.04.04
->> Rhode Island needs to be represented. Someone convince Glenn Osmundson, Bob Breidenbach, Scott Weider, and others to join.

You can count me in as a Rhode Islander, I just havent lived there recently because of school and internships.

-Denis
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
Amherst | MA | USA | Posted: 6:22 PM on 06.04.04
->> Denis:

I've tried working on Scott, but not luck yet. I hounded him for most of the Patriots season, then during the NPPA's Northern Short Course (including trying to get him to pony up the $25 during the Sports Photo work shop, which I taught along side Bob....who still amazingly uses a 600f4 MANUAL FOCUS as his lens of choice....and he does it better than 90% of the photogs I know using auto focus).
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 6:40 PM on 06.04.04
->> I didn't pull census numbers for the Canadian "states" so they're not represented. Someone else can have the source if they want to do that particular "exercise".

Sport Shooters percentage per capita
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0.001923% DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (11 of 572059)
0.001457% NEW HAMPSHIRE (18 of 1235786)
0.001231% CALIFORNIA (417 of 33871648)
0.001150% VERMONT (7 of 608827)
0.001111% OREGON (38 of 3421399)
0.001079% KANSAS (29 of 2688418)
0.001069% COLORADO (46 of 4301261)
0.000950% WASHINGTON (56 of 5894121)
0.000908% HAWAII (11 of 1211537)
0.000881% CONNECTICUT (30 of 3405565)
0.000851% MASSACHUSETTS (54 of 6349097)
0.000783% NORTH CAROLINA (63 of 8049313)
0.000776% MONTANA (7 of 902195)
0.000774% MARYLAND (41 of 5296486)
0.000773% INDIANA (47 of 6080485)
0.000751% MISSOURI (42 of 5595211)
0.000737% NEW JERSEY (62 of 8414350)
0.000716% UTAH (16 of 2233169)
0.000705% OHIO (80 of 11353140)
0.000663% FLORIDA (106 of 15982378)
0.000653% WISCONSIN (35 of 5363675)
0.000650% MINNESOTA (32 of 4919479)
0.000643% NEBRASKA (11 of 1711263)
0.000627% MAINE (8 of 1274923)
0.000619% KENTUCKY (25 of 4041769)
0.000611% NEW YORK (116 of 18976457)
0.000608% WYOMING (3 of 493782)
0.000604% ILLINOIS (75 of 12419293)
0.000598% ARKANSAS (16 of 2673400)
0.000593% VIRGINIA (42 of 7078515)
0.000565% ARIZONA (29 of 5130632)
0.000550% NEVADA (11 of 1998257)
0.000550% NEW MEXICO (10 of 1819046)
0.000542% TEXAS (113 of 20851820)
0.000489% PENNSYLVANIA (60 of 12281054)
0.000464% GEORGIA (38 of 8186453)
0.000444% IOWA (13 of 2926324)
0.000435% OKLAHOMA (15 of 3450654)
0.000372% MICHIGAN (37 of 9938444)
0.000369% TENNESSEE (21 of 5689283)
0.000360% ALABAMA (16 of 4447100)
0.000274% SOUTH CAROLINA (11 of 4012012)
0.000221% WEST VIRGINIA (4 of 1808344)
0.000201% LOUISIANA (9 of 4468976)

And now, having proven beyond all doubt I'm a geek nonpareil, I'll scuttle off to my corner.
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John Cordes, Photographer
Orange County | CA | USA | Posted: 6:50 PM on 06.04.04
->> Well Brian I guess you might as well post those numbers cause Graig has gone listee on us.

I think thats because he shopped all day at the Arizona Mills, its hot out, the Pink Pony in old Scottsdale ain't open yet, its hot out and its to early to head over to Gilligan's for a drink, to darn hot.

Going to go see Shrek 2. See Ya.
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Brian Jackson, Photographer, Photo Editor
South San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 6:54 PM on 06.04.04
->> Sunshine? Uhhh, not here. I'm wearing a sweater and long pants. Fog. Lot's of fog... You're forgetting Rule #92, Section B, Paragraph 7, sub-section iii stipulates that "those North of I-380 on the peninsula are not allowed to have sunshine between the months of June and Sept."

Anyway, in between actual work...here's the link to the extra compiled data:
http://www.actionathletics.com/tmp/ss_pop.html

I had it as straight text with the PRE tags, but decided to put it in HTML. Took an extra 5 minutes :( 62 lines of total code, but that's because the Canadian's took up an 11 extra lines when I decided to include them! :-)

Now, don't ask for sorting by columns or anything, or I'll be forced to add that functionality!!!

Happy Friday, y'all
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 6:56 PM on 06.04.04
->> There's a multitude of causes.

It's too darn hot to be outside.

I've been pumping Stevie Ray Vaughn, Les Miserables, and Josh Groban directly into my head for hours.

I'm burning time waiting to go to get a massage.

I can't wait to start my weekend.
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Scott Bort, Student/Intern, Assistant
Champaign | il | USA | Posted: 7:02 PM on 06.04.04
->> Here Here Clark! I have been working o nthe U of Iillinois'ers and Daily Illini'ers Lets get into the top five!

ILLINOIS REPRESENT!
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Richard Uhlhorn, Photographer
Chelan Falls | WA | USA | Posted: 8:21 PM on 06.04.04
->> Sure are a lot of bored shooters out there. Is business that bad?

Cheers Rich
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Javier Gonzalez, Photographer
Mayaguez | PR | Puerto Rico | Posted: 8:31 PM on 06.04.04
->> PR?????? Not state, but very good place! Island,archipelago, latin nation.
2 photogs.
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Kyle Carter, Photographer
Meridian | MS | USA | Posted: 8:52 PM on 06.04.04
->> O.K., I know us Southern boys may be a little slow...but does Mississippi not even get a count??? Hello!! I know I am not all alone am I??
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Matt Miller, Photographer
omaha | NE | United States | Posted: 9:28 PM on 06.04.04
->> i just got back from middle nebraska covering a funeral today. (update later this weekend)...our paper photographs every soldier funeral in the state...so far. i believe this was the 15th in nebraska. one might have been from the osama hunt, though.
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Brian Jackson, Photographer, Photo Editor
South San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 9:34 PM on 06.04.04
->> Kyle, if I look at my page, the crooked letter state is there :)

Javier. State/Province/Territory/Commonwealth...it's all good. Again, it's on the page I created. And it's considered part of the US for this example seeing as how "The chief of state is the President of the United States of America." [from the Puerto Rico website]

Oops, so I just realized that I forgot to multiply the %'s by 100, that's why they look weird. I've fixed the problem. Sorry about that. I've also fixed some of the stats so they're more realistic in relations to the countries.

Once again:
http://www.actionathletics.com/tmp/ss_pop.html
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 10:17 PM on 06.04.04
->> Greg, I am in awe of both you and the state of New Hampshire.

--Mark
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Rick Burnham, Photographer
Enfield | CT | USA | Posted: 11:19 PM on 06.04.04
->> Steven

You MASS guys may have more numbers but % wise we have you by an astounding 1/3,000,000 (3 millionth) of a percentage point!!

Go Huskies!
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 8:42 AM on 06.05.04
->> There is quantity and quality. In Georgia we have chosen "Quality." :-)
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Murfreesboro | TN | U.S. | Posted: 1:31 PM on 09.09.13
->> I had some free time at lunch today and remembered I had done this 9 years ago. Here's today's numbers with advance apologies for those I didn't include. Feel free to edit and/or criticize that choice.

2193 members
AB- 21
AL- 22
AK- 2
AR- 13
AZ- 31
BC- 17
CA- 334
CO- 48
CT- 29
DC- 20
DE- 3
FL- 114
GA- 50
HI- 16
IA- 19
ID- 10
IL- 86
IN- 42
KS- 25
KY- 23
LA- 16
MA- 40
MB- 4
MD- 43
ME- 10
MI- 50
MN- 41
MO- 42
MS- 12
MT - 7
NC- 53
ND- 3
NE- 23
NH- 14
NJ- 49
NM- 6
NV- 14
NY- 104
OH- 68
OK- 14
ON- 24
OR- 44
PA- 82
QC- 11
RI - 4
SC- 21
CD- 6
TN- 27
TX- 146
UK - 9
UT- 18
VA- 51
VIC- 9
VT- 8
WA- 52
WI- 31
WV- 7
WY- 5
Planet Earth - 1

Aaron - 10
Andrew - 25
Bob - 18
Brian - 22
Chris(topher) - 58
Daniel - 21
David - 79
James - 22
Jason - 23
Jeff(rey) - 34
Jim - 27
Joe - 17
John - 56
Jon - 13
Mark - 36
Matt(hew) - 35
Michael - 73
Mike - 42
Scott - 36
Steve(n) - 34
Tim(othy) - 24
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Travis Haughton, Photographer
Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 2:24 PM on 09.09.13
->> And despite the 2,200 paying members generating more than $50,000 in revenue each year, and roughly HALF A MILLION dollars since this thread started....The website still looks EXACTLY THE SAME.

Don't get me wrong, SS is a great resource and community, but seriously needs a modern web presence. But then I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the roots in the newspaper industry.
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Thomas Campbell, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 2:44 PM on 09.09.13
->> If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 3:19 PM on 09.09.13
->> (button) LIKE (/button)
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photographer, Photo Editor
San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 3:59 PM on 09.09.13
->> Travis - it's coming.
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Alan Look, Photographer
Bloomington - Normal | IL | United States | Posted: 4:03 PM on 09.09.13
->> Clark - I'm not sure the Football/Basketball situation has changed, but on SS it is almost 2 to 1!
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 5:23 PM on 09.09.13
->> Thomas, there's things that most definitely are broke, or at least outdated.

Just a few quick examples of things that could be improved include getting rid of the ability to hide how you mark a post; the guide needs a massive overhaul and update; more teaching tools; a section for newbies to ask questions without ridicule (that'd be where where anonymous would be a good thing); portfolio reviews by a select group of pros (at a cost, hey time is valuable!); the list could go on.

The message board here has a pretty bad reputation, on another board I used to post the words bitter and bicker were well used to describe the posts - I often read comment after comment about why NOT to join SS instead of suggesting it as a good place to come and be a part of the community. Would even suggest levels for photographers, probation of sorts, throw in some peer recommendations along with other criteria to move up the ladder. Guess that would mean opening the door a bit more to newbies instead of a closed community but of course can have sections only for the top tier(s), plus plenty here already.

All depends what the top guys want of course, they could close it right down to a very closed close knit group or open it up completely - personally like to see something in the middle but better.
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