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Critique...if you have time
jeff martin, Photographer
wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 10:56 AM on 10.10.03
->> Feel free to be brutal. I'm looking to learn. By the way, I usually crop way tighter. was having trouble getting these sized to the posting specs. Anyhow, thanks for the input.
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Eric Isaacs, Photographer, Student/Intern
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 11:39 AM on 10.10.03
->> Hi Jeff,

I'm sure others can give a more detailed critique but what what got my attention was the depth of field, it would improve the overall impact if the background was blurred instead of seeing bright white buildings and other distracting background images.
Good luck,

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Bradley Wilson, Photographer
Raleigh | NC | USA | Posted: 12:51 PM on 10.10.03
->> You have some great action here. Good eye. You were in a generally good place to get the light right and some good facial expressions. It's all about emotion. The biggest thing you need to do here is use lower depth of field. Either use a slower film or rate your ISO lower digitally to allow for wider apertures. That'll really help separate the subjects from the background and put the emphasis where you want it.
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer
Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 1:00 PM on 10.10.03
->> What does the field look like from the other side? Sure it might be backlit, but if the background is cleaner...
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Brendan Smialowski, Photographer
Washington | DC | United States | Posted: 1:00 PM on 10.10.03
->> Clean up your backgrounds. Use a longer lens or dont shoot into such distracting things as trailer parks. Depth of field wont save you that much when you have big bright blobs floating around in the background.
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Kelley Nelson, Photographer
Plainsboro | NJ | USA | Posted: 1:17 PM on 10.10.03
->> I don't know if you were using a lens capable of f2.8 but these weren't shot at 2.8. As some of the other folks pointed out, a less distracting background will greatly help the impact of these.

If you can't go to a larger aperture and throw the background more OOF, I'd just be extra-mindful of what's in the background.

It looks like a parking lot on one side, so I think if you had to pick one or the other, you were right to have the building in the background of most.

The posture and position of the players was good in all of the shots - good sense of action there - I would have cropped some tighter like you mentioned and sometimes missing the feet from the bottom of the frame is disturbing.

Shutter speed - It looks like there was plenty of light to get 1/500th or better. I would use a higher ISO equivalency to stop the action more. When it comes to action, I'll take a little more noise over motion blur almost every time.

I hope that's not overload and that my comments were helpful ;)
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Richard Orr, Photographer
Longmeadow | MA | USA | Posted: 2:18 PM on 10.10.03
->> One of the first posts on this board (from Day 1 or 2) was about the most important thing learned at a Clarkson seminar. It was that you should ALWAYS consider the background.

I have a field that I shoot at from time to time. Because of its layout, the sun really kills it in the late afternoon. The only good shot was across one end of the field. It just so happens that is where the porta-potties are. It took a few times shooting there for it to sink it.

Yesterday I shot there and ended up leaving--no one wants porta-poties (no matter how blurry) in the background. A year ago I would have stayed and been oblivious. Thats why these boards are great--you can actually learn something!

Shoot low and keep the back clean. Your shots are pretty decent, they just need to be less cluttered.
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Carleton Q. Hall, Photographer
Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 3:12 PM on 10.10.03
->> Shooting from a low position always gives a good perspective...in most cases. In this case, shooting from ABOVE would have totally cleaned up your backgrounds. They would have just been green grass. Especially if you were shooting lengthwise down the field.

Also, if you can't get higher, consider shooting with light on half the subject and shadow on the other half. Move 90 degrees to get a better background.

And finally, like Thomas mentioned above, don't be afraid to move 180 degrees and shoot into the sun. If you did, your backgrounds would be totally blown out and white.

The rule of "shoot with sun behind your shoulder" is more of a guideline that should have been ignored in this case.
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jeff martin, Photographer
wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 3:21 PM on 10.10.03
->> thanks to all. I was happily oblivious to the background until you guys mentioned it. now it's all I see. I'll have to bring a ladder. other side is off limits. and wider fstop.. 700-200+1.4x is a long as I get thanks again
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