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World Series Newspaper Covers
Eugene P. Tanner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 1:26 PM on 11.03.16
->> Here's an interesting read on the World Series Coverage... Check out the link...

http://petapixel.com/2016/11/03/chicago-tribune-sun-times-covers-world-seri.../
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Stanley Leary, Photographer, Photo Editor
Roswell | GA | | Posted: 1:40 PM on 11.03.16
->> I posted this a few other places in response to this.

Playing the Devils Advocate here just think about how many people continue to lose jobs in our industry. Then think of how we judge our work–By our peers only.

While I prefer the photo by the Tribune, if subscription doesn’t go up is it still superior? Sadly the public on a daily basis doesn't care based on the circulation size except on Sunday.

So from a business perspective I think we continue to not get it. All of our contests are judged by ourselves and not the public. Circulation is our best judgement of our work. If the quality of our work cannot create subscribers then who are we fooling?

Chicago Sun-Times
Circulation
470,548 Daily
268,413 Saturday
406,094 Sunday

Chicago Tribune
Circulation
448,930 daily
331,190 Saturday
853,324 Sunday
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Murfreesboro | TN | U.S. | Posted: 7:39 PM on 11.03.16
->> I don't think anyone is debating whether the business decision to cut staffers results in greater profits. The jab is directed toward the quality of the work itself. A comparison would be similar to someone writing a Pulitzer-worthy article and have someone else say, "yeah, but the story about Kim Kardashian got more web hits."
Absolutely the photo from the Tribune is better. If I were deciding between subscriptions, you can bet I would notice these types of differences over time. Unfortunately for both papers, they offer their articles and photos to me for free online anyway, so I hope my click was worth the effort.
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Stanley Leary, Photographer, Photo Editor
Roswell | GA | | Posted: 7:40 AM on 11.04.16
->> Brad Smith commented on this on another thread.

He said it reflects more about photo editing than photography. The editor had access to similar photos through the many wire services, but it was the editor who picks the photo that runs not the photographer.
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Murfreesboro | TN | U.S. | Posted: 9:20 AM on 11.04.16
->> The Tribune lists their entire staff directory with contact information and social media for each person in the newsroom. On the Sun-Times site, the only page I can find that mentions staff is a single generic email address. They are obviously two very different newspapers, as business models and in their product.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/about/

http://chicago.suntimes.com/author/ststaff/
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer
Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 11:59 AM on 11.06.16
->> Brad Smith, via Stanley above, is spot on. While this is a very nice visual to try to make a point about the staff reduction, it isn't really applicable here.

This is all about photo editing. The wide shot that everyone is quick to criticize was shot by David J. Phillip, one of the AP's premiere sports photographers, based here in Houston.

Which means: the wide photograph was shot that way on purpose, not because it was taken by a reporter with an iPhone and no access to quality equipment like everyone wants to insinuate.

If you check the AP wire David J. has a wide variety of photos from post game: tight, wide and even overhead remote from all at the same time during the celebration.

Which means the Sun Times front looks the way it does because an editor decided that is what they wanted. Even if they would have had a professional staff photographer at the game, they still most likely would have run the cover they did.

So while this is a nice visual example to try to push our cause, it is really just a failure in photo editing unfortunately.
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