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New Macbook Pro
Mike Burley, Photographer
Dubuque | IA | USA | Posted: 11:37 PM on 10.27.16
->> Looking to upgrade after far too long.. wondering what the general opinion is with the new Macbook Pro announced today. Also, anyone spot any good deals on outgoing 2013-15 refurbs?

My early 2008 MBP is still incredibly fast after I swapped in a SSD. I love my mid 2015 MBP (work computer).

I'm a little afraid to ditch the usb port/escape key and lack of magsafe seems scary.

Thoughts?
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John Howley, Photographer
Circleville | OH | USA | Posted: 12:51 AM on 10.28.16
->> No more USB means buying new accessories and the Lightning ports look like a new design (since my mid-2014 MacBook Pro), which means new accessories. While I appreciate innovation, you can innovate and allow us to use the accessories we just purchased a year ago.

With all the major software going to subscription and allowing you to use on whatever platform, I really no longer see the need to spend $1,500, $2,000 on a MacBook Pro when I can get a Windows laptop for about $400 every year and still be ahead of the game. And I'm a Mac user since the Apple IIe.
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Patrick Fallon, Photographer, Assistant
Torrance | California | USA | Posted: 4:27 AM on 10.28.16
->> John raises good points - trying to figure out my plan now - but one correction. Its Thunderbolt 3, not Lightning ports FYI. Thunderbolt 3 looks like USB-C from what I understand.
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Gavin Werbeloff, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 10:04 AM on 10.28.16
->> I think Apple was silly to get rid of MagSafe, but I also thought they were moronic for ditching the headphone jack. Call me a curmudgeon.

The Apple Thunderbolt 3 to 2/1 adaptor is actually cheaper than others out there, and it's bidirectional, so you can use Thunderbolt 3 devices on older computers. You can get updated USC-C cables and adaptors for pretty much everything. The biggest pain is getting adaptors for card readers. That being said, make sure they're from reputable companies as there were incidents of knock-off USB-C cables catching fire and ruining devices.

I see Thunderbolt 3 being used primarily to drive 4K screens, and big RAID arrays. Even with today's fastest SSD's, the max read/write on the drive isn't fast enough to be constrained by USB 3.1 Gen 2 (which has the same 10 Gigabit throughput as Thunderbolt 1) so a 40 Gigabit Thunderbolt 3 pipe is overkill. G-Technology just came out with a USB-C SSD that should hit the sweet spot for a lot of people here.
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Stanley Leary, Photographer, Photo Editor
Roswell | GA | | Posted: 10:04 AM on 10.28.16
->> One port to rule them all: Thunderbolt 3 and USB Type-C join forces

https://www.cnet.com/news/thunderbolt-3-and-usb-type-c-join-forces-for-one-.../
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Stanley Leary, Photographer, Photo Editor
Roswell | GA | | Posted: 10:08 AM on 10.28.16
->> USB Type-C and Thunderbolt 3: One port to connect them all

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/usb-type-c-thunderbolt-3-one-cable-to-connect-t.../
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Steven Limentani, Photographer
Fletcher | NC | United States | Posted: 4:30 PM on 10.28.16
->> The worst news is that Apple has established a new price point. The comparable fully setup MBP with 1TB drive goes from about 3K to $3500+, 4K+ with a 2 TB drive.
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Stanley Leary, Photographer, Photo Editor
Roswell | GA | | Posted: 10:39 AM on 10.29.16
->> IBM says it is 3X more expensive to manage PCs than Macs
Saving up to $535 per Mac per four years in comparison to PCs

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3131906/apple-mac/ibm-says-macs-are-ev...
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Stanley Leary, Photographer, Photo Editor
Roswell | GA | | Posted: 5:12 PM on 10.29.16
->> The future of PCs and Macs is expensive


http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/28/13452084/microsoft-apple-new-pc-surface-...

"IF YOU CAN’T GROW SALES, GROW THE PROFIT PER SALE"
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer
Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 9:31 PM on 10.29.16
->> Here is a good article that sorts through the new ports:

Examined: Thunderbolt 3 and USB 3.1 gen 2 on the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/10/28/examined-thunderbolt-3-and-usb-31...

"AppleInsider explains the differences between USB-C, USB 3.1 gen 2, and Thunderbolt 3, and examines Apple's latest implementation of the technologies.

"The three terms associated with external device input and charging on the new MacBook Pro are being bandied about on the internet and social media, with a general lack of understanding. Couple that with a lack of user education, and you'd think that Apple omitting the USB type-A connector on the new machine is the end of the world, dooming all legacy peripherals to the trash heap, or similarly dramatic histrionics."
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 9:36 AM on 10.30.16
->> "My early 2008 MBP is still incredibly fast after I swapped in a SSD. I love my mid 2015 MBP (work computer)."

If it works, why upgrade?

Still rockin' the 17" MBP from mid 2010.
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Mike Burley, Photographer
Dubuque | IA | USA | Posted: 11:27 PM on 10.30.16
->> "If it works, why upgrade?"

My magsafe charger keeps melting. I've gone through 3 and they get so hot there's no chance. Sometimes it takes 20-30 min of dinking around before I can get it to charge.. IF I can get it to charge. Plus after a decade I think I can spare a few bucks. Honestly, I saw my exact same Mac on ebay for $80 with light use and it was tempting.

I just scored a maxed out late 2013 15" MBP for $1400. A grand cheaper than the newest MBP and I have a 1TB SSD. I think the time I'll save will make this a worthwhile upgrade.
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Mike Burley, Photographer
Dubuque | IA | USA | Posted: 11:35 PM on 10.30.16
->> ^^ Forgot to mention it had only 13 charge cycles so it was basically brand new.

A note to anyone who's thinking of upgrading to a new machine who still has a spinning hard drive: Get a SSD first and see what happens. My early entry level 2008 with SSD danced circles around my late 2012 with 7200 HD (work computer).
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Matthew Putney, Photo Editor, Photographer
Waterloo | IA | USA | Posted: 1:18 PM on 10.31.16
->> Mike I agree I put about $600(512ssd, new battery, and 16gb of ram) into my 2011 macbook pro with Matte screen and works wonderful. Much faster than my work PC. I do wish I had thunderbolt to download college football photos faster on deadline.
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Michael Okoniewski, Photographer
Syracuse | NY | USA | Posted: 1:46 PM on 10.31.16
->> For what's it's worth. In Jan. I purchased the Macbook 11". I went back & forth on that vs. the Macbook Pro. The lighter weight won me over & it's faster than my 17" 2010 Pro with SSD.
I do just basic PhotoMechanic & Photoshop work, so for on the road, it's super small & light. The 17" Pro now sits hooked up to my Cinema display and still sees the bulk of file handling.

The Macbook is great for working on planes & team buses.
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Michael Myers, Photographer
Miami | Florida | USA | Posted: 8:01 AM on 11.03.16
->> Knowing the new MacBook Pro was coming, I still purchased the previous model three months ago. I have no plans to upgrade.

Nobody seems to like the change to the keyboard (shorter travel, just to make the laptop thinner). No card reader (which I use a lot). Minimal ports, and no quick way to plug in any of my USB drives, without an adapter.

Replacing the function keys with the strip with iPhone technology doesn't impress me - why not just click on the appropriate place on the screen, instead of trying to figure out where to click with your finger.

The fingerprint reader seems like a nice improvement.

I'm not sure I would buy one instead of the old one, even if the price was the same, but the price had a huge increase.


(...and they still haven't fixed the mail.app program, which doesn't understand how to send images as attachments, rather than embed them (or "inline", as Apple calls it. No biggie I guess - just another reason to get Microsoft Office.)
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