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Sony A6300 is similar in performance to the 7DMII for sports
Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 9:20 AM on 03.11.16
->> I know that this forum is filled with mirrorless naysayers but Sony has really stepped up to the plate with a new camera that is the first offering that is a true and legitimate sports action machine.

A few of the cliff notes: 11 fps with AF-C tracking, 120fps EVF that follows action without lagging, 8 fps with no blackout, excellent low light ability (I've shot it up to 12,800 so far with acceptable results), and a true 4K (using every pixel on the chip) with 30p, and Full HD at 120 fps. All this for $1k.

If you are interested in reading more and seeing some images, here are a couple of blog posts... But be ready to start seeing little tiny cameras attached to Canon and Nikon glass this year, and the results will speak for themselves. And for you golf dudes out there? It's got the silent shutter from the A7S so you will be able to shoot the swing, not just at the tee box, but on the green as well without worrying which way the wind is blowing ;)

http://pmrphoto.blogspot.com/2016/03/sony-a6300-sample-files-g-master-85-24...

http://pmrphoto.blogspot.com/2016/02/top-5-reasons-you-will-own-sony-a6300....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJha9KtvfLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGoBI1-KFfw
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Doug Strickland, Photographer
Chattanooga | TN | USA | Posted: 4:51 PM on 03.11.16
->> One of our staffers already has his ordered after he fell in love with the a6000. It wasn't unusual to see him toting it around with our giant manual focus 500mm, and when he gets an adapter that's supposed to let him use it with Canon autofocus he'll probably use it even more. He's unafraid to take it with him as a second body to any news event and has a small collection of Sony lenses too.

It's not a sports camera, but I'll mention that I just got Fuji's X-Pro 2 and they have seriously stepped it up, too. I finally feel like I'm using a true challenger to the Leica M digital cameras (that honestly outclasses them in just about every way). The autofocus is finally where it should've been all along, too. The only thing that makes me sad (and always has with Fuji) is the automatic vignette correction, even on RAW files, because I love the natural vignette that comes from shooting wide open with primes.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 5:56 PM on 03.11.16
->> Patrick - Thanks for staying on top of Sony mirrorless and sharing your first hand accounts with their products. Very much appreciated (your time and your investment).
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 9:09 PM on 03.11.16
->> the A6000 was a very accomplished little camera for sports but it lacked extreme low light performance and it suffered from EVF lag for lateral movement. The A6300 addresses all these things and throws in true 4K capture and a silent shutter to boot. Tough to beat for $1K
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 8:48 AM on 03.12.16
->> I pre-ordered mine when first announced. Looking forward to using in everyday.
I returned a Metabones IV recently because I was not getting sharp photos with an A7r II, no matter what lens I used.
I realize other people are using it successfully and I wonder what I'm not getting. You take it out of the box, mount it on the lens, mount the lens on the camera and shoot, right? I'd appreciate some input.
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Doug Strickland, Photographer
Chattanooga | TN | USA | Posted: 9:50 PM on 03.14.16
->> Patrick, I've asked you about this before and never got a response: what is Sony's service like? I've heard nothing but horror stories from pros I know who have tried to switch to Sony and needed repairs (literally not a single positive story) on gear, and now this: http://petapixel.com/2016/03/14/photographer-matt-granger-ditching-sony/
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Gregory Greene, Photographer
Durham | NH | USA | Posted: 11:00 PM on 03.14.16
->> In the USA Sony uses Precision Camera for repairs and it has a horrible reputation. You have to wonder what was going through their minds to have such a shoddy support system. Now it's going to take a long time to get that out of the minds of pros looking at Sony gear as a viable alternative.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 6:23 AM on 03.15.16
->> This is just a two-cent observation ... not an excuse for Sony.

Depending on what chart you look at, Canon and Nikon still own 80-85% of the professional market space and have had many more years of experience taking care of the needs of working professionals. To think that Sony's professional support could be anywhere close to Nikon or Canon at this stage of the game is unrealistic in my opinion. For the time being I think you need to look at Sony as professional cameras with consumer level support. At least until they get their Pro Service program up and running (Canon CPS ala Sony).

Even when Sony gets their Pro level service up to speed it won't be perfect. Let's see a show of hands of how many people HAVE NOT had an issue with a repair with Canon or Nikon Professional Services. I think we have all had troubles over the years to some degree.

Like I said, I'm not making excuses. I'm simply trying to establish a realistic expectation of where Sony is and where they are going in terms of service using the two companies that have had the most experience serving the pro market by comparison.

As a side note, I think that every professional needs to learn how to do basic maintenance on their gear. That includes learning how to clean a sensor, lens contacts, replace CMOS batteries, update firmware, and so on. I also believe that it's a good idea to proactively send pro equipment in to be checked on a regular basis. You can schedule this at a time when your schedule isn't as busy. Finally, you should always have a backup solution in the event you do have a failure requiring longer turnarounds on repairs.
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Doug Strickland, Photographer
Chattanooga | TN | USA | Posted: 9:12 AM on 03.15.16
->> I think that right now, at least part of Sony's problem is that you have to go through the same support system for a $3000 camera that you do for a $15 pair of earbuds. Their use of Precision Camera is another. Kevin makes a good point, and I don't think anyone expects Sony to meet the expectations of Canon or Nikon, but they should be expected to simply provide an acceptable level of support. That same staffer who preordered the new a-series that I mentioned sent in a lens for repair, and the repair center charged him for the repair but did literally nothing to the lens - a front element had been knocked out of place, and it was in the same obviously crooked position when he received it from the repair center as it had been when he shipped it to them.

Sony apparently does have their version of "pro" service, but seems like it has strange qualification standards, and anyone shooting without owning two full frame Sony cameras doesn't qualify even if you have $10,000 in lenses:

https://esupport.sony.com/info/1523/US/EN
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 4:56 AM on 03.16.16
->> Hey, Sony just paid $750 million for the rights to a bunch of copyrights owned by the Michael Jackson estate. No MJ stuff however.

$750 million in the best professional support on the planet would seem like a better investment than rights to some old Dylan lics.
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Chris Peterson, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbia Falls | MT | USA | Posted: 11:23 AM on 03.16.16
->> Service still appears to be an issue with Sony, at least for this Aussie...

http://petapixel.com/2016/03/14/photographer-matt-granger-ditching-sony/

And ISO 12,800? Big deal. I get that with my D810. And the AF is spot on.

Sorry, I'm not sold.
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 12:16 PM on 03.16.16
->> Investing in the works of Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Ed Sheeran, The Beatles and

(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony/ATV_Music_Publishing_artists)

is a much better use of $750 million, IMO. This stuff generates a lot of cash.

No Bob Dylan though.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 3:57 AM on 03.17.16
->> Jim - Yes Bob Dylan.

As reported by CBS News on March 15, 2016 .....

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-750-million-smash-hit-for-michael-jackson/

"The agreement for Jackson's half-share of the Sony/ATV Music Publishing catalog will give the company sole ownership of works by The Beatles, Bob Dylan and other hit-making musicians, including Eminem and Taylor Swift."
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