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So have you preordered your Nikon D5?
Rob Sirota, Photographer
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 8:09 PM on 01.05.16
->> What an amazing looking baby!!! I would love to see some real world images from some crappy sports venues...
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 8:53 PM on 01.05.16
->> My question is, which D5 will members will be buying??

The two CF or the two XQD??
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Doug Pizac, Photographer
Sandy | UT | USA | Posted: 9:45 PM on 01.05.16
->> 12 frames a second, 20-megapixel chip, ISO tops out at 3.28 MILLION -- all for $6,500 per body.

Also interesting is the new SB-5000 strobe that has radio wire triggering built in. No need for Pocketwizards. When used with the D5 you can control up to SIX groups with different power settings.
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Rob Sirota, Photographer
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 11:20 PM on 01.05.16
->> I think I'd go for the 2 CF since I have so many of those cards... As for the wireless, I wish they would have use the PocketWizard technology and then you can mix and match
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Mark J. Terrill, Photographer
Simi Valley | CA | USA | Posted: 1:24 AM on 01.06.16
->> I can't imagine buying a D5 with CF since they top out at about 160mbps and XQD currently tops out at about 400 mbps and is capable of going faster. CF is old technology and you can't beat the ingest speed of the XQD.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 10:35 AM on 01.06.16
->> Interesting answers on the CF vs XQD, I'm interested in hearing more opinions from users.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer, Photo Editor
PLANET | EARTH | | Posted: 10:48 AM on 01.06.16
->> As Mark says there is no comparing the speeds of the XQD and CF cards. I had a game last year where I realized I had forgot my QXD cards (idiot alert). I did have a couple of spare CF cards in one of the pockets of my computer bag. When I went to file at half I was shocked at how slow the cards were....it took about 2-3 minutes to download the cards whereas the QXD cards download in about 15 seconds. This makes a huge difference on deadline. If you don't use the QXD cards you're just shooting yourself in the foot. I read on another forum they were too expensive, which is somewhat ludicrous when you're spending almost $7000 for the camera. It'd be like installing a $70 am/fm radio from Walmart in a Maserati instead of a Blaupunkt system.
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 12:22 PM on 01.06.16
->> Chuck,
"You don't need a Blaupunkt...What you need is a curve ball!"
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 1:37 PM on 01.06.16
->> Why is it a "pre-order?"

If you're ordering one, then it's an order, albeit an early one.

It's like airlines "pre-boarding" some people. They're not, they're just bordering some people earlier than other people.

(Grumble, Grumble, Grumble...)
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Rob Sirota, Photographer
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 2:35 PM on 01.06.16
->> Jim aka George Carlin :)
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Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 4:56 PM on 01.06.16
->> Nicely played David..
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Chris Peterson, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbia Falls | MT | USA | Posted: 11:32 AM on 01.07.16
->> All we do is complain about the business, then drool over the next $6,500 camera. makes no sense.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 11:58 AM on 01.07.16
->> Whoever said that the photography business made sense? I got into this for the joy of uncertainty and irrational behavior.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 12:00 PM on 01.07.16
->> BTW Chris ... does the D5 come with a shutter release button or is that sold separately as an accessory?
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Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 4:02 PM on 01.07.16
->> I switched to XQD just a few months ago - love them. Wish they had one in the D810. Question for long-time users.. are the cards reliable and durable under heavy use? And where does CFast fit in here?
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Doug Kapustin, Photographer
Woodstock | MD | USA | Posted: 7:59 PM on 01.07.16
->> While the speed of the XQD cards is very impressive, Paul asks a great question about their durability. In my experience, they don't hold up nearly as well as their CF counterparts. I've never seen a physically damaged CF card that wasn't subject to abnormal abuse. Normal use, seems to wear down the XQD cards. The Sony versions that I have been using since I began shooting the D4 have literally fallen apart. The contact end and sides of the card have thin, brittle, plastic that easily cracks and falls apart - as least once for me as I attempted to extract it from the camera. Once the plastic mechanism that keeps the card locked in place breaks, the card becomes useless. I've made attempts to contact Sony, but they push you to Nikon, and vice versa. I have not used the Lexar version (are they even making them anymore?), so I can't comment directly on their specific durability. I would assume that they're identical. I'm curious about the experience of others here.
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Mark J. Terrill, Photographer
Simi Valley | CA | USA | Posted: 8:40 PM on 01.07.16
->> I've been using the XQDs exclusively for about a year and sporadically before that. That's almost 250 events per year and I've never had a problem. I know that the early XQDs that many people got with their D4 cameras has some problems, but I haven't experience or heard of any issues with the current version.

For me, the speed in the camera isn't as big an issue as the ingest speed. However there is also a big speed improvement when you look through the images in-camera.
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
Naples | FL | USA | Posted: 9:02 PM on 01.07.16
->> No.
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Michael Augustin, Photographer
Plano | TX | USA | Posted: 11:39 AM on 01.08.16
->> I have intentionally stayed on the Nikon "S" release schedule (D3S, D4S) but with the D5 the dual XQD option caught my interest. I ordered a D5 via B&H/NPS.
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Stanley Leary, Photographer, Photo Editor
Roswell | GA | | Posted: 8:41 PM on 01.08.16
->> Ordered from Jody at Roberts. Use NPS to get on the list for early delivery.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 9:36 AM on 01.09.16
->> Any time a camera has a new AF system it makes me very nervous. Does anyone remember the Canon 1D Mark III? I think I would let a little grass grow under my feet for a few months to see what the judge and jury think before upgrading.

Maybe that's not prudent. Heck....what do I know about cameras and failing AF systems?
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Stanley Leary, Photographer, Photo Editor
Roswell | GA | | Posted: 10:56 AM on 01.09.16
->> Every camera has a lifespan and professionals will for the most part try to replace their gear before it breaks down on a job.

Timing of replacing your gear can make the difference in really how much of out of pocket expense you have. If you trade at the right time your old gear still has some value to someone, too late and you might as well keep it as a trinket.

Another reason many pros upgrade is to communicate to their clients that they are giving them the best as well. You would be surprised as to how many of my clients actually are shooters themselves and expect me to be on the latest model.

Often you need to upgrade to offer a new feature in the new cameras to get certain types of clients. For example there are many commercial shops that are now wanting all their video footage in 4K. If you had the older Nikons then you would not be able to get these jobs.

You will not hear professional race car drivers or even athletes who compete at the highest trying to keep the old model car or the old sneakers. No they want their cars and sneakers to be top notch when they compete. This is why many pros also upgrade, they cannot afford to be out maneuvered by gear that another pro has and is convincing their clients they are taking care of them.

With all this said it is also equally true that we have still yet to maximize all the capabilities of the box camera. It is also true that a true pro can do more with less than a non pro can do with the latest gear.

Dave Black got some commercial clients due to his ability to use HSS with his Nikon flashes. He was showing sports photos to clients that had never seen strobed 1/8000 stop action shots.

Does this mean you have to go and buy the latest gear–NO. However a good business plan incorporates upgrading your gear.

Take a look at restaurants that do not do soft upgrades [painting, new upholstery, new flooring]. They slowly start loosing clients. Yes shiny and new is important when running a business to the public.

Every so many years most successful restaurants will do major overhauls. Here in Atlanta the famous Manuel's Tavern is doing their very first one. Long overdue.

When competition has become so fierce as in photography the past decade I can guarantee you that it is the nuances that are keeping photographers thriving versus dying.

Couple things I can note that without the camera in hand but reading about it that I am trilled about is the thought given to those upgrading.

Same battery can be used and same cards can be used. This is a real problem through the years. You buy extra gear and then when you buy a new camera you had to sell everything and start over.

I am personally thrilled with the CF and XQD choices. I hated having both in the previous camera. However it did allow me to continue to use the CF cards I had and test the new XQD which is what I am getting on the new camera.

Every few years I end up getting two new cameras for the price of one. That is because I sell two of the previous model cameras which are usually worth 1/2 of their original price.

Do you need everything this camera offers? Can you offer something new to clients if you buy a newer model camera?

Will you learn how to do something new because you have a new capability?

These are the questions I ask myself when considering upgrading.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 9:27 AM on 01.10.16
->> And some working full time professionals purchased three of the 1D Mark III cameras and spent the next three years battling Canon Professional Services trying to convince them that their new AF system didn't work. During that time, we continued to use our 1D Mark IIN bodies until they replaced our 1D Mark III's with Mark IV's which also had some issues as well.

The biggest (23 pages) and longest (over two years) running thread on Rob Galbraith's web site.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/multi_pagee99b.html?cid=7-8740-9068

Myself, I ALWAYS use the most current bodies and lenses. I just test drive them now before I buy them. I do the same thing when I buy a new car which is often less money than my investment in new camera equipment.
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Steve Puppe, Photographer
Olathe | KS | USA | Posted: 12:34 PM on 01.10.16
->> I switched to Nikon after the Canon Mark III and have had the pro bodies ever since. I also get a little nervous with new autofocus systems. For $6500 I'd really like to see more innovation. More MPs, better ISO and faster AF is about as standard as it gets for an upgrade. The lack of wifi is pretty disappointing. I'm sure it will be a nice camera but I was really hoping that Sony would start pushing Canon and Nikon. There is such a pricing gap between the D5 and every other camera in the Nikon lineup. I know there are some photographers that do work in sports advertising but in general this camera is aimed at photojournalist and sporting event photographers and for the majority of them this is a lot of money to spend on a body. Meanwhile the body aimed at commercial photographers can be purchased for less than half of the price. Nikon has done a hell of a job with the 750/810 at a great price. I wish they would make the same impact with their flagship model.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer, Photo Editor
PLANET | EARTH | | Posted: 3:18 PM on 01.10.16
->> I'm with Steve. I find it somewhat ludicrous that a camera at half the price (the D750) can have built in wifi but to have wifi on the D4-D5 series you need to spend another $1000 on a separate piece of equipment.
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Steve Puppe, Photographer
Olathe | KS | USA | Posted: 3:58 PM on 01.10.16
->> I am interested in radio controlled flashes though. Does anyone know if you will be able to control the units from a master flash on the camera(like the current IR control) or will you need the additional transmitter to control the flashes?
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Mark J. Terrill, Photographer
Simi Valley | CA | USA | Posted: 8:02 PM on 01.10.16
->> I'm not sure that I understand the bellyaching about the price of the D5. It's exactly the same price as the D4S was when it came out and by contrast the Canon 1DX was $6,800 when it was introduced in 2012.

On the WiFi, my guess is that an internal radio wouldn't have the broadcast strength that a lot of professionals need.
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Michael Augustin, Photographer
Plano | TX | USA | Posted: 8:59 AM on 01.11.16
->> I guess I'm kinda old school, but I'd gladly buy a less expensive "no frills" version of the D5 or any pro sports/action camera. No video, No fancy ports for stuff I will never use, etc.
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Steve Puppe, Photographer
Olathe | KS | USA | Posted: 10:18 AM on 01.11.16
->> I'm not surprised by the price. For my work I'm just finding it more and more difficult to justify the price when Nikon offers so much performance in the less expensive bodies.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer, Photo Editor
PLANET | EARTH | | Posted: 12:18 PM on 01.11.16
->> Mark, I wasn't really clear. I use the D750 wifi to transfer files from the camera to my phone of ipad to xmit on breaking news or deadline sports.....I don't care about a "long distance" wifi....I just like the wireless options the D750 and GoPro offer to tranfer files.
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